MrFlash67 wrote:

Just like how the original went for 26 years, stopped for 15, and then started again, this too was originally on the old forums, then the Transfer Break, then this! How did you like The Crimson 'Orror?

DIY wrote:

7734f wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

7734f wrote:

"Time is this timey-wimey, wibbly-wobbly….stuff"

Wibbly Wobbly

I'm not entirely sure how you get that wrong but ah well

I could've sworn it was wumbly-jumbly, but, oh well. 5 hours of Netflix fries your brain. I was tired. End of story.

Now that I think about it, how did I get that wrong? We shall never know.

Allons-y!

Geronimo!

7734f wrote:

DIY wrote:

7734f wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

7734f wrote:

"Time is this timey-wimey, wibbly-wobbly….stuff"

Wibbly Wobbly

I'm not entirely sure how you get that wrong but ah well

I could've sworn it was wumbly-jumbly, but, oh well. 5 hours of Netflix fries your brain. I was tired. End of story.

Now that I think about it, how did I get that wrong? We shall never know.

Allons-y!

Geronimo!

Fish fingers and custard!

DIY wrote:

7734f wrote:

DIY wrote:

7734f wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

7734f wrote:

"Time is this timey-wimey, wibbly-wobbly….stuff"

Wibbly Wobbly

I'm not entirely sure how you get that wrong but ah well

I could've sworn it was wumbly-jumbly, but, oh well. 5 hours of Netflix fries your brain. I was tired. End of story.

Now that I think about it, how did I get that wrong? We shall never know.

Allons-y!

Geronimo!

Fish fingers and custard!

Run you clever boy… and remember.

DIY wrote:

7734f wrote:

DIY wrote:

7734f wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

7734f wrote:

"Time is this timey-wimey, wibbly-wobbly….stuff"

Wibbly Wobbly

I'm not entirely sure how you get that wrong but ah well

I could've sworn it was wumbly-jumbly, but, oh well. 5 hours of Netflix fries your brain. I was tired. End of story.

Now that I think about it, how did I get that wrong? We shall never know.

Allons-y!

Geronimo!

Fish fingers and custard!

Run you clever boy… and remember.

soupoftomato wrote:

DIY wrote:

7734f wrote:

DIY wrote:

7734f wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

7734f wrote:

"Time is this timey-wimey, wibbly-wobbly….stuff"

Wibbly Wobbly

I'm not entirely sure how you get that wrong but ah well

I could've sworn it was wumbly-jumbly, but, oh well. 5 hours of Netflix fries your brain. I was tired. End of story.

Now that I think about it, how did I get that wrong? We shall never know.

Allons-y!

Geronimo!

Fish fingers and custard!

Run you clever boy… and remember.

Out of context quotes get old fast.

DIY wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

DIY wrote:

7734f wrote:

DIY wrote:

7734f wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

7734f wrote:

"Time is this timey-wimey, wibbly-wobbly….stuff"

Wibbly Wobbly

I'm not entirely sure how you get that wrong but ah well

I could've sworn it was wumbly-jumbly, but, oh well. 5 hours of Netflix fries your brain. I was tired. End of story.

Now that I think about it, how did I get that wrong? We shall never know.

Allons-y!

Geronimo!

Fish fingers and custard!

Run you clever boy… and remember.

Out of context quotes get old fast.

“Something old
Something new
Something borrowed
Something blue”

ImagineIt wrote:

DIY wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

DIY wrote:

7734f wrote:

DIY wrote:

7734f wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

7734f wrote:

"Time is this timey-wimey, wibbly-wobbly….stuff"

Wibbly Wobbly

I'm not entirely sure how you get that wrong but ah well

I could've sworn it was wumbly-jumbly, but, oh well. 5 hours of Netflix fries your brain. I was tired. End of story.

Now that I think about it, how did I get that wrong? We shall never know.

Allons-y!

Geronimo!

Fish fingers and custard!

Run you clever boy… and remember.

Out of context quotes get old fast.

“Something old
Something new
Something borrowed
Something blue”

Chairs are useful!

ImagineIt wrote:

Wanna know why there are so many Claras?

It's cose she was in tranzercr and when into the doctor time line

I love youtube comments.

Here's the thing, though: All of Moffat's women are . Every. Single. One.

The entire storyline of the girl from The Empty Child / The Doctor Dances revolved around her son (a boy). To boot, Rose was turned from a competent, intelligent human being into a ridiculous caricature who suddenly stopped caring about things like situation and danger to swoon around a hot dude and dance, taking her vastly out of character in a way that is sexist.

Reinette fell for the Doctor and apparently lived her entire life hoping and waiting for the Doctor to come back to her~. The Girl in the Fireplace also featured Moffat taking the Doctor vastly out of character in order to have him suddenly ready to dump everything - traveling the universe, Rose (whom he cared about), etc. - for Reinette, whom he'd only just met. Also featured Moffat putting Rose in the damsel in distress role.. again, and basically having her helplessly wait for the Doctor to stumble in and save her. Really sexist.

Let's take the time here to mention that Moffat has repeatedly expressed his dislike for Rose, including calling her a “needy girlfriend” and talking about how he applauded the Doctor for “dumping her” on a copy of himself because “sticking her in another universe didn't work”… basically insinuating that the Doctor purposely stuck Rose in the alternate universe because she was too needy and girly for him. This is not the first misogynistic comment Moffat has made about Rose, let alone anything else, and it puts a “fun” disgusting context on his treatment of Rose in the episodes where he wrote her.

Sally Sparrow inexplicably hooks up with a dude she spends a whole episode saying she wanted nothing to do with. Her friend is stalked by a dude in olden days and somehow ends up marrying him. And again, in this episode, the ones who know things are all men.. Sally Sparrow just follows directions.

Rory's life didn't revolve around Amy, though, as you asserted. Rory had an actual life with a context (something Amy lacked, actually). He was a nurse! He had family! He had a life! He had things he did and friends he had outside of Amy. His life did not revolve around her, and this is made abundantly clear over the course of the show. Further, in several instances his “devotion” to Amy comes across much more as possessive than as loving.

Amy, on the other hand.. literally her entire life revolves around the Doctor and Rory, both men. She has no family due to a crack in her wall, but even after that's fixed and her family is restored, we don't see or meet her family, and she is never shown to care or want to go back to them. She has no apparent friends or anything of the sort. Instead, she has the Doctor - whom she's been obsessing about since she was eight years old, who has literally ruled her life since then. She kept a bag packed in case he came back. She played make-believe games about him. She thought about him constantly. He was portrayed as virtually all she thought of. And then, when the Doctor shows back up, she runs off with him to adventure with him and be a damsel in distress more times than I care to count.

At several points, important knowledge about Amy's body and wellness are withheld from her for no good reason by the men in her life. She is forced into a misogynistic storyline - the forced pregnancy and childbirth, which the Doctor knew was going to happen and just never told her, robbing her of her agency and knowledge of her own body and life. She was further robbed by the narrative of the ability to choose and subjected to a very, very *-specific form of torture (forced childbirth). This is kind of a big deal. And Amy's story doesn't stop revolving around men and men making decisions for her and how she affects men and etc. etc.

Oh, and it's worth mentioning that Moffat has said some pretty grossly sexist stuff about Amy, too. Like thinking that Karen Gillan wouldn't cut it, even though she was fantastic, because she was “wee and dumpy” until he saw that she was actually a supermodel.

Then we have River, whose life from birth to death revolves around… the Doctor! She is raised to kill him, she ends up falling in love with him, she sits around in a prison cell for a crime she didn't commit waiting for him to need her, she goes into archeology not because it's cool but because she'll have a better chance of meeting the Doctor that way.

When is a good chance to mention the sexist bits of her dialogue, like when she regenerates in Let's Kill Hitler and all she can think about is how much she weighs and what her hair looks like?

When is a good point to bring up that Moffat has made many, many other sexist remarks, such as that women are “needy” and obsessed with marriage, the lot of us, and that there's a lack of respect for men in society? Or how he didn't care about his wife or child when she was pregnant, he cared openly about how quickly (removed by moderator - please keep it polite) would be back to normal after pregnancy and how soon she'd lose the weight?

Oh, and then there's Clara, the Doctor's walking puzzle box, whose ultimate purpose in all of her apparently many lives is to sacrifice her life for the Doctor.

All of these things have one thing in common, and it isn't that they're all ~ hands~. It's sexism.

calebxy wrote:

You didn't write that, did you?

libitina wrote:

this is pretty interesting:

LONG STUFF.

DIY wrote:

calebxy wrote:

You didn't write that, did you?

I think he/she did.

luiysia wrote:

he's a recent writer for the show, his full name is steven moffat.