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purple_cat_human_
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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

I help manage a large studio here, and i know theres a lot of people who use screenreaders and could definitely be helped by a system where you can set an alt id that people with screenreaders can use. probably a system like most apps use where the alt is in the corner and you hover over it to see/read the text. In the studio I'm in we put the alt text in the description, but this takes a lot of space and is hard to use with screenreaders.

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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

so basically like how you can set image descriptions for screen readers?
support, imagine not being able to see the studio.


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-alterniti-
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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

Forgive my ignorance, but how much does knowing a thumbnail’s contents benefit a person, as opposed to simply knowing the studio title?
Also, this feature would be also made available for project thumbnails, right?
And how would this affect moderation, if only a limited number of people could access the alternate text?

Last edited by -alterniti- (May 16, 2024 17:25:44)

banana439monkey
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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

a11y problem, should defo be added in order to comply with ada

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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

banana439monkey wrote:

a11y problem, should defo be added in order to comply with ada

Banana

Sorry, what do you mean by “a11y problem”? Also does the ADA actually require alt text?


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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

-effortIess- wrote:

(#5)

banana439monkey wrote:

a11y problem, should defo be added in order to comply with ada

Banana

Sorry, what do you mean by “a11y problem”? Also does the ADA actually require alt text?
a11y = accessibility
regarding ada, i think it requires provisions where you see fit, so i would imagine so

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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

banana439monkey wrote:

-effortIess- wrote:

(#5)

banana439monkey wrote:

a11y problem, should defo be added in order to comply with ada

Banana

Sorry, what do you mean by “a11y problem”? Also does the ADA actually require alt text?
a11y = accessibility
regarding ada, i think it requires provisions where you see fit, so i would imagine so

Banana

“Provisions where you see fit” basically means it’s up to ST then, right?

Also am I dumb I’ve never heard of a11y meaning accessibility before lol


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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

-effortIess- wrote:

(#7)

banana439monkey wrote:

-effortIess- wrote:

(#5)

banana439monkey wrote:

a11y problem, should defo be added in order to comply with ada

Banana

Sorry, what do you mean by “a11y problem”? Also does the ADA actually require alt text?
a11y = accessibility
regarding ada, i think it requires provisions where you see fit, so i would imagine so

Banana

“Provisions where you see fit” basically means it’s up to ST then, right?

Also am I dumb I’ve never heard of a11y meaning accessibility before lol
more like, if you see a scenario where it needs to be added, it needs to be added
and i don't think many people have oops

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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

banana439monkey wrote:

-effortIess- wrote:

(#7)

banana439monkey wrote:

-effortIess- wrote:

(#5)

banana439monkey wrote:

a11y problem, should defo be added in order to comply with ada

Banana

Sorry, what do you mean by “a11y problem”? Also does the ADA actually require alt text?
a11y = accessibility
regarding ada, i think it requires provisions where you see fit, so i would imagine so

Banana

“Provisions where you see fit” basically means it’s up to ST then, right?

Also am I dumb I’ve never heard of a11y meaning accessibility before lol
more like, if you see a scenario where it needs to be added, it needs to be added
and i don't think many people have oops

Banana

According to this article it appears that alt text is only required for government sites (Title II) and businesses open to the public (such as restaurants, banks, etc.)(Title III).


Last edited by -alterniti- (May 16, 2024 18:14:39)

purple_cat_human_
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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

-alterniti- wrote:

Forgive my ignorance, but how much does knowing a thumbnail’s contents benefit a person, as opposed to simply knowing the studio title?
Also, this feature would be also made available for project thumbnails, right?
And how would this affect moderation, if only a limited number of people could access the alternate text?

I mean, a lot of people put a lot of effort into their thumbnails, and i'd personally want to know what they look like, even if i already know what the studio is about. and I didn't think about that but project thumbnails would also most likely have alt ids, yeah! I'm not sure what you mean by how itd effect moderation? The scratch filter would still effect it, and the way alt ids usually work is you hover over it and it shows you the text, and also you can read it with a screenreader.

bro i haven't used forums in forever- anyways im rowan or grian! i like hermitcraft,third life, bfb, and ii! i use he/they/xe/end pronouns and yeah!
-effortIess-
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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

purple_cat_human_ wrote:

-alterniti- wrote:

Forgive my ignorance, but how much does knowing a thumbnail’s contents benefit a person, as opposed to simply knowing the studio title?
Also, this feature would be also made available for project thumbnails, right?
And how would this affect moderation, if only a limited number of people could access the alternate text?

I mean, a lot of people put a lot of effort into their thumbnails, and i'd personally want to know what they look like, even if i already know what the studio is about. and I didn't think about that but project thumbnails would also most likely have alt ids, yeah! I'm not sure what you mean by how itd effect moderation? The scratch filter would still effect it, and the way alt ids usually work is you hover over it and it shows you the text, and also you can read it with a screenreader.
What I mean is, the vast majority of people won’t see the alt text, and therefore will not be able to report inappropriate content.
Additionally, what would the character limit of the text be (or would there be one?)

Last edited by -effortIess- (May 16, 2024 18:24:37)



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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

-effortIess- wrote:

purple_cat_human_ wrote:

-alterniti- wrote:

Forgive my ignorance, but how much does knowing a thumbnail’s contents benefit a person, as opposed to simply knowing the studio title?
Also, this feature would be also made available for project thumbnails, right?
And how would this affect moderation, if only a limited number of people could access the alternate text?

I mean, a lot of people put a lot of effort into their thumbnails, and i'd personally want to know what they look like, even if i already know what the studio is about. and I didn't think about that but project thumbnails would also most likely have alt ids, yeah! I'm not sure what you mean by how itd effect moderation? The scratch filter would still effect it, and the way alt ids usually work is you hover over it and it shows you the text, and also you can read it with a screenreader.
What I mean is, the vast majority of people won’t see the alt text, and therefore will not be able to report inappropriate content.
Additionally, what would the character limit of the text be (or would there be one?)
I'm not sure what you mean? everyone can see it, they just hover or click on the alt text button. I think the character limit being the same as the description or very close seems good- definitely needs more space then a title but maybe not as much as a whole description

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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

purple_cat_human_ wrote:

-effortIess- wrote:

purple_cat_human_ wrote:

-alterniti- wrote:

Forgive my ignorance, but how much does knowing a thumbnail’s contents benefit a person, as opposed to simply knowing the studio title?
Also, this feature would be also made available for project thumbnails, right?
And how would this affect moderation, if only a limited number of people could access the alternate text?

I mean, a lot of people put a lot of effort into their thumbnails, and i'd personally want to know what they look like, even if i already know what the studio is about. and I didn't think about that but project thumbnails would also most likely have alt ids, yeah! I'm not sure what you mean by how itd effect moderation? The scratch filter would still effect it, and the way alt ids usually work is you hover over it and it shows you the text, and also you can read it with a screenreader.
What I mean is, the vast majority of people won’t see the alt text, and therefore will not be able to report inappropriate content.
Additionally, what would the character limit of the text be (or would there be one?)
I'm not sure what you mean? everyone can see it, they just hover or click on the alt text button. I think the character limit being the same as the description or very close seems good- definitely needs more space then a title but maybe not as much as a whole description

Ok, im on iPad (go ahead, cringe), so I can’t see it lol I wasn’t aware it was so easily accessible (I thought it was only visible by screen readers, as defined in the ADA).
Also this Harvard article mentions that the alt text should be very brief, so probably no more than 50-100 characters max.



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banana439monkey
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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

-alterniti- wrote:

(#9)

banana439monkey wrote:

-effortIess- wrote:

(#7)

banana439monkey wrote:

-effortIess- wrote:

(#5)

banana439monkey wrote:

a11y problem, should defo be added in order to comply with ada

Banana

Sorry, what do you mean by “a11y problem”? Also does the ADA actually require alt text?
a11y = accessibility
regarding ada, i think it requires provisions where you see fit, so i would imagine so

Banana

“Provisions where you see fit” basically means it’s up to ST then, right?

Also am I dumb I’ve never heard of a11y meaning accessibility before lol
more like, if you see a scenario where it needs to be added, it needs to be added
and i don't think many people have oops

Banana

According to this article it appears that alt text is only required for government sites (Title II) and businesses open to the public (such as restaurants, banks, etc.)(Title III).
so, scratch

with character limit, 125 enough?

Banana


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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

banana439monkey wrote:

-alterniti- wrote:

(#9)

banana439monkey wrote:

-effortIess- wrote:

(#7)

banana439monkey wrote:

-effortIess- wrote:

(#5)

banana439monkey wrote:

a11y problem, should defo be added in order to comply with ada

Banana

Sorry, what do you mean by “a11y problem”? Also does the ADA actually require alt text?
a11y = accessibility
regarding ada, i think it requires provisions where you see fit, so i would imagine so

Banana

“Provisions where you see fit” basically means it’s up to ST then, right?

Also am I dumb I’ve never heard of a11y meaning accessibility before lol
more like, if you see a scenario where it needs to be added, it needs to be added
and i don't think many people have oops

Banana

According to this article it appears that alt text is only required for government sites (Title II) and businesses open to the public (such as restaurants, banks, etc.)(Title III).
so, scratch

with character limit, 125 enough?

Banana

See my above post (#13)


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purple_cat_human_
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Adding alt id's to thumbnails for accessibility

-effortIess- wrote:

purple_cat_human_ wrote:

-effortIess- wrote:

purple_cat_human_ wrote:

-alterniti- wrote:

Forgive my ignorance, but how much does knowing a thumbnail’s contents benefit a person, as opposed to simply knowing the studio title?
Also, this feature would be also made available for project thumbnails, right?
And how would this affect moderation, if only a limited number of people could access the alternate text?

I mean, a lot of people put a lot of effort into their thumbnails, and i'd personally want to know what they look like, even if i already know what the studio is about. and I didn't think about that but project thumbnails would also most likely have alt ids, yeah! I'm not sure what you mean by how itd effect moderation? The scratch filter would still effect it, and the way alt ids usually work is you hover over it and it shows you the text, and also you can read it with a screenreader.
What I mean is, the vast majority of people won’t see the alt text, and therefore will not be able to report inappropriate content.
Additionally, what would the character limit of the text be (or would there be one?)
I'm not sure what you mean? everyone can see it, they just hover or click on the alt text button. I think the character limit being the same as the description or very close seems good- definitely needs more space then a title but maybe not as much as a whole description

Ok, im on iPad (go ahead, cringe), so I can’t see it lol I wasn’t aware it was so easily accessible (I thought it was only visible by screen readers, as defined in the ADA).
Also this Harvard article mentions that the alt text should be very brief, so probably no more than 50-100 characters max.

Oh, I wasn't aware of that- yeah id go with the id limit being 100 characters

bro i haven't used forums in forever- anyways im rowan or grian! i like hermitcraft,third life, bfb, and ii! i use he/they/xe/end pronouns and yeah!

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