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mrsrec
Scratcher
500+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Weird…..
CodeNinja
Scratcher
2 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

That's the sort of glitch that none of the developers would think would happen, but happens. It was probably easy to fix, but it would never have been fixed without detailed user input. That's why every major application needs to have easily contacted developers.
Walrus227
Scratcher
54 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Lightnin wrote:

technoboy10 wrote:

Neat story! It'd be cool if this was in project form, too.


I had the same thought! Would you (or anyone?) like to make it into a project? That'd be awesome.
Hee Hee Hee! I made one here!
edman180
Scratcher
6 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

I think i have that problem with my beat up sonic remix at

Last edited by edman180 (June 29, 2013 14:14:39)

edman180
Scratcher
6 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

I think i have that problem with this beat up sonic remix and i'm really worried

Last edited by edman180 (June 29, 2013 14:17:57)

chocolatepenguin
Scratcher
1000+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Walrus227 wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

technoboy10 wrote:

Neat story! It'd be cool if this was in project form, too.


I had the same thought! Would you (or anyone?) like to make it into a project? That'd be awesome.
Hee Hee Hee! I made one here!
I already did it.
coolguy0923
Scratcher
1 post

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

I think theres another glitch…

recently I have opened a project named “untitled-3”, with a few scripts in it. it came up with a message that said “error! project did not load!” I don't think I clicked anything, and the project didn't have important work in it, but im worried it might happen to another of my projects.
Mary99
Scratcher
2 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

How can I make a moving backdrop??
Here's the question..
03Bella-dinosaur
Scratcher
4 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Help. I can't browse, upload, or draw new costumes or sprites without clicking save. :b
chocolatepenguin
Scratcher
1000+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Mary99 wrote:

How can I make a moving backdrop??
Here's the question..
Look on wiki.scratch.mit.edu.
unknownhydra
Scratcher
35 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

I got an intro of mine that i worked hard on blank like that.. and i didn't click costumes as far as i remember. It just was blank.
kspiegs
Scratcher
95 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Thank you so much! I had that problem too but now it's fixed and my project is back!!!!!!
topman101
Scratcher
100+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Me too!
hope it does not happen again
eldarado
Scratcher
5 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Epicness123 wrote:

Thanks Zed!
This has happened to me before,when I was remixing an add-yourself project,it randomly went blank.
oh that happened to me a few times too
CANSLP
Scratcher
100+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

another thing that causes that is reloading the page while the project is loading. just try it, I've lost 4 projects that way.
applefur
Scratcher
4 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

That's pretty awesome. Thank you ZedProductions I'm gonna follow you straight away now!
stories31
Scratcher
100+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Lightnin wrote:

Solving bad bugs is like solving a mystery: you have to gather clues, imagine how the glitch might happen, and then test your theories.

Recently we were up against a really bad glitch: a small percentage of projects were getting saved in an empty or blank state. The loss rate was only 0.0004% of all project saves - but that's still too high. We never want to lose Scratcher's work: it's super important that Scratchers feel confident that their work won't get lost. So fixing this problem became our highest priority.

But the comments and forum posts we were seeing about this glitch were really hazy - just people saying that all their work disappeared suddenly, for no clear reason. Vague info about glitches is better than no info about glitches, but it doesn't help us get the most important job done: making the problem happen here, where we can step through the code and see exactly what causes the error. Only then can we fix it!

Every report we'd get, we'd restore the projects (so the creators didn't lose any of their work permanently). But that didn't help us understand what led to the projects being lost in the first place. That is, until ZedProduction gave us a key bit of information:

ZedProduction wrote:

Details: I started up the project, and it began the load. I clicked on customs, witch I think was the problem, and the project suddenly opened without anything in it, just a blank shell. I was shocked, and tried to reload the page, but before I could, it auto-saved. I then posted this on the forums.

That gave us a very helpful clue - that at least one of the projects was lost when the creator clicked on the costumes tab before the project was finished loading. We guessed that that might trigger a save before the project was completely loaded - resulting in an empty project. So scmb1 tested that theory out on her test account, and was able to cause one of her test projects to go blank - w00t! That was cause for celebration.

Once we can consistently make a glitch happen on our own computers, it's only a matter of time before we can fix it. Johnm worked through the weekend on the code, we tested it out on Monday, and then we released it this morning. So from around 11 a.m. today onward, it should be much less likely that a project “blanks out.”

This particular story may not be over - there may be other causes for projects getting saved in a “blank” state. But we're pretty confident that we've eliminated one of the causes for that problem (and maybe all of the causes - we hope!). If you (or any Scratcher you know!) see one of your projects suddenly go blank, we want to know about it! In most cases we can restore it. Any additional info you can provide - like what you did before it happened, a link to the project, your browser, operating system, and anything else you think could be helpful - may give us the clues we need to solve the mystery.

Scratch On!
(And thanks again to ZedProduction!)

I need something for you guys 2 fix: LOOK AT THE COMMENTS ON THIS FOR DA STORY… http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/10746929/
piecraft10
Scratcher
3 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Glad it's fixed! And also, pie is yummy!
piecraft10
Scratcher
3 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Lots of different guys at the party!

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…
JoLLDS
Scratcher
16 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Lightnin wrote:

Solving bad bugs is like solving a mystery: you have to gather clues, imagine how the glitch might happen, and then test your theories.

Recently we were up against a really bad glitch: a small percentage of projects were getting saved in an empty or blank state. The loss rate was only 0.0004% of all project saves - but that's still too high. We never want to lose Scratcher's work: it's super important that Scratchers feel confident that their work won't get lost. So fixing this problem became our highest priority.

But the comments and forum posts we were seeing about this glitch were really hazy - just people saying that all their work disappeared suddenly, for no clear reason. Vague info about glitches is better than no info about glitches, but it doesn't help us get the most important job done: making the problem happen here, where we can step through the code and see exactly what causes the error. Only then can we fix it!

Every report we'd get, we'd restore the projects (so the creators didn't lose any of their work permanently). But that didn't help us understand what led to the projects being lost in the first place. That is, until ZedProduction gave us a key bit of information:

ZedProduction wrote:

Details: I started up the project, and it began the load. I clicked on customs, witch I think was the problem, and the project suddenly opened without anything in it, just a blank shell. I was shocked, and tried to reload the page, but before I could, it auto-saved. I then posted this on the forums.

That gave us a very helpful clue - that at least one of the projects was lost when the creator clicked on the costumes tab before the project was finished loading. We guessed that that might trigger a save before the project was completely loaded - resulting in an empty project. So scmb1 tested that theory out on her test account, and was able to cause one of her test projects to go blank - w00t! That was cause for celebration.

Once we can consistently make a glitch happen on our own computers, it's only a matter of time before we can fix it. Johnm worked through the weekend on the code, we tested it out on Monday, and then we released it this morning. So from around 11 a.m. today onward, it should be much less likely that a project “blanks out.”

This particular story may not be over - there may be other causes for projects getting saved in a “blank” state. But we're pretty confident that we've eliminated one of the causes for that problem (and maybe all of the causes - we hope!). If you (or any Scratcher you know!) see one of your projects suddenly go blank, we want to know about it! In most cases we can restore it. Any additional info you can provide - like what you did before it happened, a link to the project, your browser, operating system, and anything else you think could be helpful - may give us the clues we need to solve the mystery.

Scratch On!
(And thanks again to ZedProduction!)


This glitch has occurred with me!! On a project i've remixed! I shared and in the 2nd day the screen appear in blank!!

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