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SimpleScratch
Scratcher
500+ posts

Will downloadable version be ready for Autumn 2013 Term

I'd love to move to teaching using Scratch 2 but for reliable use, we are going to need an offline version.

School internet connections are just not reliable enough - Well mine in Lancashire, England aren't anyway

I recently had to cancel an introduction to Scratch 2.0 because somewhere along the WWW, something went into very slow mode

What's the estimate of a downloadable version being ready in time for the start of our school year in Autumn 2013

Or would you recommend that we carry on with 1.4 for that term?

regards
Simon
turkey3
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Will downloadable version be ready for Autumn 2013 Term

The offline version is coming this summer for sure.

dvd4
Scratcher
100+ posts

Will downloadable version be ready for Autumn 2013 Term

instruction for a offline scratch 2.0:

1.get mamp,lamp,wamp of any other one

2.download scratch 2.0

3.use scratch 2.0 offline ! (aka profit)


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vrschultz
Scratcher
1 post

Will downloadable version be ready for Autumn 2013 Term

Do we have an update on when the offline version of Scratch 2.0 be available? I have the same issues as Simon.

Thanks,
Verne
stepo11
Scratcher
2 posts

Will downloadable version be ready for Autumn 2013 Term

I also have the same problem.I am a teacher of Computing Science and would love to start making resources for Scratch 2.0 but need to have the offline editor first.

Any idea when it will be released? We start back in school on 19th August.


thevolutionary
New to Scratch
1 post

Will downloadable version be ready for Autumn 2013 Term

Hey, Offline version please. There is something really odd about ZERO access to the beta version offline (assuming it is being developed as I've never seen it). I enjoy using Scratch 1.4 for teaching programming (My secret identity is a not-so-mild mannered software developer/consultant). The thing about “cloud” versions, is not only does it leave people vulnerable to the (if we are offline you are foobarred) mentality, but it also makes it IMPOSSIBLE to guarantee privacy of students which parents are deeply concerned with these days. I for one cannot endorse a product for educating children that is online. Parents are increasingly aware of the dangers of online game and apps. So guys, we'd ALL appreciate if you would stop with the vague, “offline version will be available soon” and give a release and access to the beta. This is a non-profile organization (or so we are told) and we're told the product is open source, yet you provide no links to development in progress which is REALLY odd for a open-source project or a non-profit. The privacy of parents and children needs to be respected and this online only mode of Scratch 2.0 is beginning to feel like Microsoft's Office 360: Your data isn't yours when you run it, it's Microsoft's and those that use it are subject to the whims of a corporate with all kinds of ulterior motives. You say the source code will be released “at some point”. What is the big secret? I'm getting very worried that the model of Scratch has changed. They collect donations which I would have added to/endorsed if not for this prolonged lack of any release other than cloud.
scimonster
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Will downloadable version be ready for Autumn 2013 Term

I've heard that the Scratch Team is working hard to have it ready for the school year, because of concerns mentioned in above posts.

thevolutionary wrote:

Hey, Offline version please. There is something really odd about ZERO access to the beta version offline (assuming it is being developed as I've never seen it). I enjoy using Scratch 1.4 for teaching programming (My secret identity is a not-so-mild mannered software developer/consultant). The thing about “cloud” versions, is not only does it leave people vulnerable to the (if we are offline you are foobarred) mentality, but it also makes it IMPOSSIBLE to guarantee privacy of students which parents are deeply concerned with these days. I for one cannot endorse a product for educating children that is online. Parents are increasingly aware of the dangers of online game and apps. So guys, we'd ALL appreciate if you would stop with the vague, “offline version will be available soon” and give a release and access to the beta. This is a non-profile organization (or so we are told) and we're told the product is open source, yet you provide no links to development in progress which is REALLY odd for a open-source project or a non-profit. The privacy of parents and children needs to be respected and this online only mode of Scratch 2.0 is beginning to feel like Microsoft's Office 360: Your data isn't yours when you run it, it's Microsoft's and those that use it are subject to the whims of a corporate with all kinds of ulterior motives. You say the source code will be released “at some point”. What is the big secret? I'm getting very worried that the model of Scratch has changed. They collect donations which I would have added to/endorsed if not for this prolonged lack of any release other than cloud.
You see, Scratch doesn't work like a typical open-source project (which does get annoying at times). They are definitely planning to open-source the editor, but i'm not sure when. The website - probably (90%) not. I've talked to Lightnin about this.
They also like to have closed-alphas, then open up for a small group (the mods were invited, and i have a feeling some teachers will be), then a larger group, and finally make it public.

I do find it a bit ironic that some people are so worried about it being online. Snap!, a Scratch remix, switched from downloadable application to web-based precisely because many schools refused to download programs, even ones endorsed by Berkeley University.

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