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TheCreatorOfUnTV
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

Don't let people share YouTube channels because it can cause hardly moderated chat.
Elijah999999
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

I'm pretty sure you can already report links to youtube.
breakfast_for_dinner
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Don't let people share YouTube channels.

you're already not allowed to.

Terms of Use wrote:

3.7 You agree not to post links to any content outside of the Scratch website, if to do so would violate any part of the Terms of Use.
WindowsAdmin
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

Don't let people share YouTube channels because it can cause hardly moderated chat.
and how? The Youtube community page? omg this is so picky like bro

– merged –

breakfast_for_dinner wrote:

you're already not allowed to.

Terms of Use wrote:

3.7 You agree not to post links to any content outside of the Scratch website, if to do so would violate any part of the Terms of Use.
Didnt the scratch team say you can link as long as it follows the scratch rules

Last edited by WindowsAdmin (July 20, 2024 23:13:37)

TheCreatorOfUnTV
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

WindowsAdmin wrote:

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

Don't let people share YouTube channels because it can cause hardly moderated chat.
and how? The Youtube community page? omg this is so picky like bro
There's hardly moderated chat in the comments which (If I remember correctly) bans only illegal content rather than adult content.
ajskateboarder
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

WindowsAdmin wrote:

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

Don't let people share YouTube channels because it can cause hardly moderated chat.
and how? The Youtube community page? omg this is so picky like bro
There's hardly moderated chat in the comments which (If I remember correctly) bans only illegal content rather than adult content.
Can't the video creator disable comments on their videos?

Last edited by ajskateboarder (July 20, 2024 23:17:31)

doggy_boi1
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

WindowsAdmin wrote:

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

Don't let people share YouTube channels because it can cause hardly moderated chat.
and how? The Youtube community page? omg this is so picky like bro

– merged –

breakfast_for_dinner wrote:

you're already not allowed to.

Terms of Use wrote:

3.7 You agree not to post links to any content outside of the Scratch website, if to do so would violate any part of the Terms of Use.
Didnt the scratch team say you can link as long as it follows the scratch rules
youtube's tos isn't as strict as scratch tos, so you cant.
WindowsAdmin
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

WindowsAdmin wrote:

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

Don't let people share YouTube channels because it can cause hardly moderated chat.
and how? The Youtube community page? omg this is so picky like bro
There's hardly moderated chat in the comments which (If I remember correctly) bans only illegal content rather than adult content.
Then just ban youtube, those kids saying “GAYTT” on those comments!!!!

Youtube is used by everybody believe it or not so people can find these comments without scratch!
TheCreatorOfUnTV
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

WindowsAdmin wrote:

Youtube is used by everybody believe it or not so people can find these comments without scratch!
YouTube is used by everybody believe it or not so people can find blood and violence without scratch!
Does that mean Scratch should allow it? NO.
hydrofungus
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1000+ posts

Don't let people share YouTube channels.

Your concerns are invalid.

QaS question directory wrote:

Q: What sites can users link to?
A: Many obscure sites are not allowed to be linked because they have ways to communicate privately.

-snipped-

However, YouTube is a bit different. Sharing YouTube videos is allowed as long as the content and comments are for all ages and don't share personal information. Those same rules must be followed when linking YouTube channels, as well. Due to containing unmoderated chat, links to streams or premiers or channels with streams or premiers are not allowed.
Za-Chary
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1000+ posts

Don't let people share YouTube channels.

People above seem to believe that YouTube is already not allowed. That's not correct. Currently, the rules are that you are allowed to share links to YouTube videos or channels as long as they follow the Community Guidelines. In particular, for sharing links to channels:
  • The channel should not be sharing streams.

  • The channel should not be sharing personal information (links to social media websites, emails “for business purposes,” etc.) in the “About” section of the channel.

  • The videos shared on the channel should be appropriate for all ages.

This is the Scratch Team's current stance on sharing links to YouTube, as far as I'm aware. So it's not true that YouTube isn't already allowed. The OP is suggesting to disallow YouTube entirely.
TheCreatorOfUnTV
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1000+ posts

Don't let people share YouTube channels.

hydrofungus wrote:

Your concerns are invalid.

QaS question directory wrote:

Q: What sites can users link to?
A: Many obscure sites are not allowed to be linked because they have ways to communicate privately.

-snipped-

However, YouTube is a bit different. Sharing YouTube videos is allowed as long as the content and comments are for all ages and don't share personal information. Those same rules must be followed when linking YouTube channels, as well. Due to containing unmoderated chat, links to streams or premiers or channels with streams or premiers are not allowed.
Comments are unpredictable, so it's not the user's fault if comments contain offensive or personally identifying information.
That's why YouTube channels should be banned.

Last edited by TheCreatorOfUnTV (July 21, 2024 15:05:02)

Roblox888i
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

starlightsparker
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

hydrofungus wrote:

Your concerns are invalid.

QaS question directory wrote:

Q: What sites can users link to?
A: Many obscure sites are not allowed to be linked because they have ways to communicate privately.

-snipped-

However, YouTube is a bit different. Sharing YouTube videos is allowed as long as the content and comments are for all ages and don't share personal information. Those same rules must be followed when linking YouTube channels, as well. Due to containing unmoderated chat, links to streams or premiers or channels with streams or premiers are not allowed.
Comments are unpredictable, so it's not the user's fault if comments contain offensive or personally identifying information.
That's why YouTube channels should be banned.
There’s a way to add a custom filter to your comments, and I also believe YouTube bans similar phrases to the one the user blacklisted on their videos too. This can also be paired with the “Hold potentially inappropriate comments for review”
TheCreatorOfUnTV
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

Roblox888i wrote:

Don't we have the discuss YouTube page?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jHvXakt1qw&pp=ygUHc2NyYXRjaA%3D%3D
That's for videos, not channels.
MythosLore
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1000+ posts

Don't let people share YouTube channels.

With YouTube, you can share links to Scratch tutorials and walkthrough videos, which is useful.
TheCreatorOfUnTV
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1000+ posts

Don't let people share YouTube channels.

MythosLore wrote:

With YouTube, you can share links to Scratch tutorials and walkthrough videos, which is useful.
Just link the videos (which redirect to the Scratch YouTube player) instead of the channel.
NamelessCat
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

MythosLore wrote:

With YouTube, you can share links to Scratch tutorials and walkthrough videos, which is useful.
Just link the videos (which redirect to the Scratch YouTube player) instead of the channel.
But why? From the Scratch player, you can already choose to go to YouTube to view the video anyways, and get the channel from there. I support the idea behind it, but simply “banning YouTube” would have to be an all or nothing thing– either no YouTube entirely, including the Scratch YouTube Player and Community Guidelines-compliant channels, or the solution we already have, which seems to be working fine.
BigNate469
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

Comments are unpredictable, so it's not the user's fault if comments contain offensive or personally identifying information.
That's why YouTube channels should be banned.
And this happens all the time on Scratch. That's why we have a report button. If there are comments that are offensive or illegal, I think that posting links to them (or videos with them easily visible) would be covered under ToU 3.1, 3.3, and 3.7.
TheCreatorOfUnTV
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Don't let people share YouTube channels.

NamelessCat wrote:

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

MythosLore wrote:

With YouTube, you can share links to Scratch tutorials and walkthrough videos, which is useful.
Just link the videos (which redirect to the Scratch YouTube player) instead of the channel.
But why? From the Scratch player, you can already choose to go to YouTube to view the video anyways, and get the channel from there. I support the idea behind it, but simply “banning YouTube” would have to be an all or nothing thing– either no YouTube entirely, including the Scratch YouTube Player and Community Guidelines-compliant channels, or the solution we already have, which seems to be working fine.
Then the Scratch YouTube Player shouldn't have the “Go to YouTube” link. Community Guidelines-compliant channels may exist, but that doesn't stop bad comments from appearing, and YouTube is for-profit, so they have less reason to remove something offensive just because someone requested it.

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