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o97doge
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Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

This should allow you to set if the project allows credit and/or same requirements.
This should be irrevocable, so there should be a warning.

I've looked in Ocular if this is a dupe, but I didn't find anything, please tell me if this is a dupe or not (tbh i don't know how to search this one so sorry if i didn't look enough).

Mockups:

Last edited by o97doge (Dec. 8, 2023 20:24:20)


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Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

(#7)

EDawg2011 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

I think it’s snap!.
This is Scratch, not Snap.
Is that the case though? Is it really? Or is it just a figment of your imagination? What if scratch never existed, and you’re just hallucinating? All of these people you’ve met, they might not be anything more than a figment of your imagination? And now that you know this, you have to ask yourself the question: is scratch real? Are you truly on an online platform named scratch? Or are you dreaming, seeing this so-called “programming for kids platform” in a completely different way from everybody else? How can you fully be sure you’re not hallucinating? How can you be so sure that there is a real thing called scratch?

(>:3)::boolean #000000 // this is my evil kumquat generator, this is where all the evil kumquats come from.
(>:3)
(>:3)
(>:3)

a woam ate the rest of my signature
ScratchCat1038
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Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

Can't you just state in the notes and credits or something that you don't care if people credit you or not?

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describe the flavor without using the word “water”
o97doge
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Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

ScratchCat1038 wrote:

(#2)
Can't you just state in the notes and credits or something that you don't care if people credit you or not?
I don't think it removes the requirement though.

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I found this masterpiece of a post:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

(#7)

EDawg2011 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

I think it’s snap!.
This is Scratch, not Snap.
Is that the case though? Is it really? Or is it just a figment of your imagination? What if scratch never existed, and you’re just hallucinating? All of these people you’ve met, they might not be anything more than a figment of your imagination? And now that you know this, you have to ask yourself the question: is scratch real? Are you truly on an online platform named scratch? Or are you dreaming, seeing this so-called “programming for kids platform” in a completely different way from everybody else? How can you fully be sure you’re not hallucinating? How can you be so sure that there is a real thing called scratch?

(>:3)::boolean #000000 // this is my evil kumquat generator, this is where all the evil kumquats come from.
(>:3)
(>:3)
(>:3)

a woam ate the rest of my signature
o97doge
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Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

Mockup:

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I found this masterpiece of a post:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

(#7)

EDawg2011 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

I think it’s snap!.
This is Scratch, not Snap.
Is that the case though? Is it really? Or is it just a figment of your imagination? What if scratch never existed, and you’re just hallucinating? All of these people you’ve met, they might not be anything more than a figment of your imagination? And now that you know this, you have to ask yourself the question: is scratch real? Are you truly on an online platform named scratch? Or are you dreaming, seeing this so-called “programming for kids platform” in a completely different way from everybody else? How can you fully be sure you’re not hallucinating? How can you be so sure that there is a real thing called scratch?

(>:3)::boolean #000000 // this is my evil kumquat generator, this is where all the evil kumquats come from.
(>:3)
(>:3)
(>:3)

a woam ate the rest of my signature
qwerty_wasd_gone
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1000+ posts

Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

Where do you click to change it?

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I may sometimes make mistakes, change my mind, etc., and edit my posts
When (::red) clicked :: events hat
repeat until <key [all v] pressed?>{
destroy this sprite::control cap
when @greenFlag misclicked::events hat
become idiot::custom}::control
(╯°□° ╯︵ ┻━┻::red)::#000000 reporter//this is brad, he creates cursed scripts like the one you saw above
(ㆆ_ㆆ)//this is max, he stares at you with that expression if you say you don't support my suggestion


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o97doge
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Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

(#5)
Where do you click to change it?
Near the Copy Link button there will be a Set requirements button.

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I found this masterpiece of a post:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

(#7)

EDawg2011 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

I think it’s snap!.
This is Scratch, not Snap.
Is that the case though? Is it really? Or is it just a figment of your imagination? What if scratch never existed, and you’re just hallucinating? All of these people you’ve met, they might not be anything more than a figment of your imagination? And now that you know this, you have to ask yourself the question: is scratch real? Are you truly on an online platform named scratch? Or are you dreaming, seeing this so-called “programming for kids platform” in a completely different way from everybody else? How can you fully be sure you’re not hallucinating? How can you be so sure that there is a real thing called scratch?

(>:3)::boolean #000000 // this is my evil kumquat generator, this is where all the evil kumquats come from.
(>:3)
(>:3)
(>:3)

a woam ate the rest of my signature
qwerty_wasd_gone
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

o97doge wrote:

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

(#5)
Where do you click to change it?
Near the Copy Link button there will be a Set requirements button.
There isn't in your mockup.

shift+ctrl+down arrow to scroll
I may sometimes make mistakes, change my mind, etc., and edit my posts
When (::red) clicked :: events hat
repeat until <key [all v] pressed?>{
destroy this sprite::control cap
when @greenFlag misclicked::events hat
become idiot::custom}::control
(╯°□° ╯︵ ┻━┻::red)::#000000 reporter//this is brad, he creates cursed scripts like the one you saw above
(ㆆ_ㆆ)//this is max, he stares at you with that expression if you say you don't support my suggestion


You found me
o97doge
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Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

(#7)

o97doge wrote:

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

(#5)
Where do you click to change it?
Near the Copy Link button there will be a Set requirements button.
There isn't in your mockup.

SHIFT+DOWN or addon
How did you find out about the Discussion Forums?
Try out LibreKitten, my TurboWarp mod.

I found this masterpiece of a post:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

(#7)

EDawg2011 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

I think it’s snap!.
This is Scratch, not Snap.
Is that the case though? Is it really? Or is it just a figment of your imagination? What if scratch never existed, and you’re just hallucinating? All of these people you’ve met, they might not be anything more than a figment of your imagination? And now that you know this, you have to ask yourself the question: is scratch real? Are you truly on an online platform named scratch? Or are you dreaming, seeing this so-called “programming for kids platform” in a completely different way from everybody else? How can you fully be sure you’re not hallucinating? How can you be so sure that there is a real thing called scratch?

(>:3)::boolean #000000 // this is my evil kumquat generator, this is where all the evil kumquats come from.
(>:3)
(>:3)
(>:3)

a woam ate the rest of my signature
qwerty_wasd_gone
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Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

o97doge wrote:

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

(#7)

o97doge wrote:

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

(#5)
Where do you click to change it?
Near the Copy Link button there will be a Set requirements button.
There isn't in your mockup.
That's better.
Support because I saw a project that says you don't have to credit before, and without this suggestion, projects that don't credit them get taken down anyway, so this suggestion can solve this issue.

Last edited by qwerty_wasd_gone (Dec. 8, 2023 20:12:45)


shift+ctrl+down arrow to scroll
I may sometimes make mistakes, change my mind, etc., and edit my posts
When (::red) clicked :: events hat
repeat until <key [all v] pressed?>{
destroy this sprite::control cap
when @greenFlag misclicked::events hat
become idiot::custom}::control
(╯°□° ╯︵ ┻━┻::red)::#000000 reporter//this is brad, he creates cursed scripts like the one you saw above
(ㆆ_ㆆ)//this is max, he stares at you with that expression if you say you don't support my suggestion


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yadayadayadagoodbye
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Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

o97doge wrote:

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

(#7)

o97doge wrote:

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

(#5)
Where do you click to change it?
Near the Copy Link button there will be a Set requirements button.
There isn't in your mockup.
That's better.
Support because I saw a project that says you don't have to credit before, and without this suggestion, projects that don't credit them get taken down anyway, so this suggestion can solve this issue.
however, this seems like it can be changed, and then what happens if I put it as “can copy w/o credit” and then change it and report people?
(and if it can't be changed, what if I reshare the same project and take down the original? the ST doens't have enough time to do a deep enough investigation to realize the copy was from the old project and woul think its copying w/o credit when they should do so, thus allowing you to, yet again, get someone's project taken down)

But then i had a very good idea. I used F5. See, using F5 gave me a whole new perspective and i was able to see a chest i couldn't have seen before
o97doge
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Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

yadayadayadagoodbye wrote:

(#10)

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

o97doge wrote:

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

(#7)

o97doge wrote:

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

(#5)
Where do you click to change it?
Near the Copy Link button there will be a Set requirements button.
There isn't in your mockup.
That's better.
Support because I saw a project that says you don't have to credit before, and without this suggestion, projects that don't credit them get taken down anyway, so this suggestion can solve this issue.
however, this seems like it can be changed, and then what happens if I put it as “can copy w/o credit” and then change it and report people?
(and if it can't be changed, what if I reshare the same project and take down the original? the ST doens't have enough time to do a deep enough investigation to realize the copy was from the old project and woul think its copying w/o credit when they should do so, thus allowing you to, yet again, get someone's project taken down)
There could be some way to track where it came from and check what requirements it had.

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I found this masterpiece of a post:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

(#7)

EDawg2011 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

I think it’s snap!.
This is Scratch, not Snap.
Is that the case though? Is it really? Or is it just a figment of your imagination? What if scratch never existed, and you’re just hallucinating? All of these people you’ve met, they might not be anything more than a figment of your imagination? And now that you know this, you have to ask yourself the question: is scratch real? Are you truly on an online platform named scratch? Or are you dreaming, seeing this so-called “programming for kids platform” in a completely different way from everybody else? How can you fully be sure you’re not hallucinating? How can you be so sure that there is a real thing called scratch?

(>:3)::boolean #000000 // this is my evil kumquat generator, this is where all the evil kumquats come from.
(>:3)
(>:3)
(>:3)

a woam ate the rest of my signature
qwerty_wasd_gone
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

yadayadayadagoodbye wrote:

-snip-
however, this seems like it can be changed, and then what happens if I put it as “can copy w/o credit” and then change it and report people?
-snip-
Then reporting the project that changes it should be valid.

shift+ctrl+down arrow to scroll
I may sometimes make mistakes, change my mind, etc., and edit my posts
When (::red) clicked :: events hat
repeat until <key [all v] pressed?>{
destroy this sprite::control cap
when @greenFlag misclicked::events hat
become idiot::custom}::control
(╯°□° ╯︵ ┻━┻::red)::#000000 reporter//this is brad, he creates cursed scripts like the one you saw above
(ㆆ_ㆆ)//this is max, he stares at you with that expression if you say you don't support my suggestion


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Basilikos
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Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

ScratchCat1038 wrote:

Can't you just state in the notes and credits or something that you don't care if people credit you or not?
No, you're forced to be credited

sorry for bad english
o97doge
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Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

yadayadayadagoodbye wrote:

(#14)

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

yadayadayadagoodbye wrote:

snip-
There could be some way to track where it came from and check what requirements it had.
Yes, however, that would be way more complicated and still extremely easy to bypass (I could always edit out the tracker, and/or change any tiny thing so you cant hvae it be compared to the other project)
Not to mention ST won't have the time to check in such an in depth way
It will be added when it's exported/remixed.
Also your quote says the wrong name.

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I found this masterpiece of a post:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

(#7)

EDawg2011 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

I think it’s snap!.
This is Scratch, not Snap.
Is that the case though? Is it really? Or is it just a figment of your imagination? What if scratch never existed, and you’re just hallucinating? All of these people you’ve met, they might not be anything more than a figment of your imagination? And now that you know this, you have to ask yourself the question: is scratch real? Are you truly on an online platform named scratch? Or are you dreaming, seeing this so-called “programming for kids platform” in a completely different way from everybody else? How can you fully be sure you’re not hallucinating? How can you be so sure that there is a real thing called scratch?

(>:3)::boolean #000000 // this is my evil kumquat generator, this is where all the evil kumquats come from.
(>:3)
(>:3)
(>:3)

a woam ate the rest of my signature
Zydrolic
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1000+ posts

Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

CCBYSA is legally binding.
You cannot bend the rules of the License at will, as far as I know.
Especially when most of the time, projects contain things that should definitely be credited.

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stop posting about kumquats, im tired of seeing it, my friend comments saying “oh hey your post was eaten by a kumquat” STOP a kumquat is freaking fruit just eat it utp ojtishglkmkjhgaoeimrlV,5KU9MOIL3K5GP,Ő AHTAHGTARET SOTP positing ABJTOUT IT (parody & sarcasm)







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o97doge
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Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

Zydrolic wrote:

(#16)
CCBYSA is legally binding.
You cannot bend the rules of the License at will, as far as I know.
Especially when most of the time, projects contain things that should definitely be credited.
this suggestion will probably mean bye bye to cc by-sa (for new projects, but old projects should be able to be converted by the project owner)
there should be an option for converted projects to download the last version before it was converted.

Last edited by o97doge (Dec. 8, 2023 21:35:47)


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I found this masterpiece of a post:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

(#7)

EDawg2011 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

I think it’s snap!.
This is Scratch, not Snap.
Is that the case though? Is it really? Or is it just a figment of your imagination? What if scratch never existed, and you’re just hallucinating? All of these people you’ve met, they might not be anything more than a figment of your imagination? And now that you know this, you have to ask yourself the question: is scratch real? Are you truly on an online platform named scratch? Or are you dreaming, seeing this so-called “programming for kids platform” in a completely different way from everybody else? How can you fully be sure you’re not hallucinating? How can you be so sure that there is a real thing called scratch?

(>:3)::boolean #000000 // this is my evil kumquat generator, this is where all the evil kumquats come from.
(>:3)
(>:3)
(>:3)

a woam ate the rest of my signature
yadayadayadagoodbye
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

o97doge wrote:

yadayadayadagoodbye wrote:

(#14)

qwerty_wasd_gone wrote:

yadayadayadagoodbye wrote:

snip-
There could be some way to track where it came from and check what requirements it had.
Yes, however, that would be way more complicated and still extremely easy to bypass (I could always edit out the tracker, and/or change any tiny thing so you cant hvae it be compared to the other project)
Not to mention ST won't have the time to check in such an in depth way
It will be added when it's exported/remixed.
Also your quote says the wrong name.
tl:dr it can be easily removed, as stated in that other post relating to stealing projects (not to mention this would mean you can still backpack the thing)
its not the wrong name, I wasn't specifically replying to you, I was replying to both you and qwerty

o97doge wrote:

snip-
(for new projects, but old projects should be able to be converted by the project owner)
Totally possible and not a huge legal issue lol

But then i had a very good idea. I used F5. See, using F5 gave me a whole new perspective and i was able to see a chest i couldn't have seen before
Paddle2See
Scratch Team
1000+ posts

Set if the project requires credit and/or same requirements or not.

It's a nice mock-up - thanks for taking the time!

It seems to me that a feature like this would add extra complexity to both the crediting process and to the moderation process. I don't really see any real benefit to it - sorry.

Last edited by Paddle2See (Dec. 8, 2023 23:08:34)


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