I went to a middle school and none of the staff knew what scratch is
is there a reason why
also its also asking when schools are no longer using scratch
or just they never heard about it

Not every school needs to use Scratch.
And middle School is a good time to learn a lower level language.

I still need an answer

That’s the answer.
Not every school uses it. Not every school has a CS Program

GlitchedThrough wrote:

That’s the answer.
Not every school uses it. Not every school has a CS Program

Adding on: and many school's CS program uses other stuff such as snap, or straight up skips scratch and goes straight to some form of text based languages.

GlitchedThrough wrote:

That’s the answer.
Not every school uses it. Not every school has a CS Program

Well it still doesn’t answer on how
schools are shifting away from scratch

gdfsgdfsgdfg wrote:

schools are shifting away from scratch

Do you have a source that a significant number of schools that formerly used Scratch now don't (and that this isn't balanced out by an equal or greater number of schools starting to use it), or is this just based on your experience at your own school?

jvvg wrote:

Do you have a source that a significant number of schools that formerly used Scratch now don't (and that this isn't balanced out by an equal or greater number of schools starting to use it), or is this just based on your experience at your own school?

I mean almost all of schools use scratch but not anymore

gdfsgdfsgdfg wrote:

I mean almost all of schools use scratch but not anymore

Do you have any source for this? Either for the notion that a vast majority of schools once used Scratch, or for the fact that many of those schools have moved away from it?

jvvg wrote:

Do you have any source for this? Either for the notion that a vast majority of schools once used Scratch, or for the fact that many of those schools have moved away from it?

All I know is because of covid-19 number of users increased which causes issues

jvvg wrote:

gdfsgdfsgdfg wrote:

I mean almost all of schools use scratch but not anymore

Do you have any source for this? Either for the notion that a vast majority of schools once used Scratch, or for the fact that many of those schools have moved away from it?

they could've moved away from scratch when FNAF fangames came, not knowing that they are now banned

when green flag clicked
forever
stay up until 1am questioning my existence
end

HurricaneMitch1998M wrote:

they could've moved away from scratch when FNAF fangames came, not knowing that they are now banned

That's still more speculation than a source. I'm still not convinced that the claim “schools are moving away from using Scratch” is true. If anything, the Statistics page could be in support of more schools using Scratch in the past few years.

In my state (Washington) CS classes are standardized across the state and there's only one class that uses Scratch now the rest either use Snap or text based languages. Whereas looking back there used to be more using Scratch at the high school level. Now there's only one class that uses Scratch and its a middle school level class. So its likely that computer science curriculums are changing to teach higher level code earlier…

gdfsgdfsgdfg wrote:

I went to a middle school and none of the staff knew what scratch is
is there a reason why

It's because most students use Scratch for playing games and not coding. Therefore, schools don't really view it as a coding platform. My school admin wants to block Scratch, but they can't because Scratch is a universal website in our school's blocking system and can't be blocked.

Why would schools be moving away from Scratch?

bobcat0701 wrote:

In my state (Washington) CS classes are standardized across the state and there's only one class that uses Scratch now the rest either use Snap or text based languages. Whereas looking back there used to be more using Scratch at the high school level. Now there's only one class that uses Scratch and its a middle school level class. So its likely that computer science curriculums are changing to teach higher level code earlier…

this is probably the best explanation, since the whole CS stuff is getting more competitive in general

ajskateboarder wrote:

Why would schools be moving away from Scratch?

Moving away? Check the games and statistics, they are the main problem

gdfsgdfsgdfg wrote:

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jvvg wrote:

Do you have any source for this? Either for the notion that a vast majority of schools once used Scratch, or for the fact that many of those schools have moved away from it?

All I know is because of covid-19 number of users increased which causes issues

Since a significant part of scratch's userbase are students, wouldn't that mean there are more schools using scratch?

-Valtren- wrote:

gdfsgdfsgdfg wrote:

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jvvg wrote:

Do you have any source for this? Either for the notion that a vast majority of schools once used Scratch, or for the fact that many of those schools have moved away from it?

All I know is because of covid-19 number of users increased which causes issues

Since a significant part of scratch's userbase are students, wouldn't that mean there are more schools using scratch?

Nope, those students are using Scratch for games and not coding

bobcat0701 wrote:

In my state (Washington) CS classes are standardized across the state and there's only one class that uses Scratch now the rest either use Snap or text based languages. Whereas looking back there used to be more using Scratch at the high school level. Now there's only one class that uses Scratch and its a middle school level class. So its likely that computer science curriculums are changing to teach higher level code earlier…

Not necessarily sure about “teach higher level code” specifically, but it has been more than a decade since Scratch has come out, so now there are several similar options for learning programming. I'd imagine younger grades may want to opt for something like Scratch Jr, or opt for something else made by the Lifelong Kindergarten Group.

Or maybe they might want to use a different block-based programming language that would better reflect programming languages used in industry (such as WaterBear).

Or maybe they are technically using Scratch, but some sort of clone or fork of it (such as Snap!, or the “Programmieren mit der Maus” one from Germany).

Overall, there's a lot of options out there, it would stand to reason that schools might want to use another option if they feel it's a good fit.

RecessFailsOffical wrote:

It's because most students use Scratch for playing games and not coding. Therefore, schools don't really view it as a coding platform. My school admin wants to block Scratch, but they can't because Scratch is a universal website in our school's blocking system and can't be blocked.

Related: some schools may have opted to have the offline version of Scratch 3.0 to dissuade users from joining online and chatting a lot (assuming moderators haven't blocked the IP first for abuse of using Scratch inappropriately. Over the COVID pandemic, we sadly did see an uptick in middle and high schools attempting to use Scratch as an alternative for the standard social media sites, and a school district might just not bother using Scratch if taking responsibility to the activity on the school network is a huge hassle).