deathknight0124 wrote:

So close with @StrixCattus ‘s closed casket, removed 20 tiles (19 outside top on the right, 1 inside right), and got stuck because no more visible tiles would match up. there has to be at least 4-5 hidden tiles and then the main group of 32 at the top. It’s gonna be tough to find a RNG-based solution where the first 34 of the 144 tiles available proceed in such a way that it opens the top before we deal with the bottom.

Maybe it would be a good idea for the editor to have a check in its solution making process for user solvability (instead of just solving a board regardless of if we can reach, find a way to have the computer solve as a human does, from the top and sides inwards? I don't know how you would even do that though, generate a solution and have an AI play it from the human perspective?). Of course, that would increase any wait time and/or lag made by the “Generating puzzle” section of the process and would be very difficult to implement without some form of issue (for example, if the AI makes some illegal move or mistakenly assumes its not solvable because it didn't match on the first pair, even if there is a second or third piece to pair with?).

As it is, i'm just throwing ideas to the wind and not knowing the code. I'll check the project out later in terms of code and see if i have some spark with my 2 brain cells to make something like what i described

I mean it's a fascinating challenge but not one I'm going to spend any serious time on

colinmacc wrote:

deathknight0124 wrote:

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I mean it's a fascinating challenge but not one I'm going to spend any serious time on

not like i'd expect you to lol its more of a challenge for me just so i can get a better understanding of how the code works and learn something from it

deathknight0124 wrote:

colinmacc wrote:

deathknight0124 wrote:

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I mean it's a fascinating challenge but not one I'm going to spend any serious time on

not like i'd expect you to lol its more of a challenge for me just so i can get a better understanding of how the code works and learn something from it

Well the whole board is stored in the list called GRID, starting at the top left and arranged in rows and columns, starting with the bottom layer. I think there are 435 list entries per layer, (29x15), because you have to take into account tiles in the half positions horizontally and vertically.

Coding the editor and not allowing tiles in the same layer to overlap was quite challenging!

colinmacc wrote:

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Well the whole board is stored in the list called GRID, starting at the top left and arranged in rows and columns, starting with the bottom layer. I think there are 435 list entries per layer, (29x15), because you have to take into account tiles in the half positions horizontally and vertically.

Coding the editor and not allowing tiles in the same layer to overlap was quite challenging!

interesting… i'm gonna remix the project and work on it. i might have something solid done by monday (which is great, since i will actually be back in school and not be forced to check my messages every 30 minutes lol) because i have a few ideas based on what i took a look at so far. is it all managed by clones, or some weird pen stamping?

deathknight0124 wrote:

colinmacc wrote:

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Well the whole board is stored in the list called GRID, starting at the top left and arranged in rows and columns, starting with the bottom layer. I think there are 435 list entries per layer, (29x15), because you have to take into account tiles in the half positions horizontally and vertically.

Coding the editor and not allowing tiles in the same layer to overlap was quite challenging!

interesting… i'm gonna remix the project and work on it. i might have something solid done by monday (which is great, since i will actually be back in school and not be forced to check my messages every 30 minutes lol) because i have a few ideas based on what i took a look at so far. is it all managed by clones, or some weird pen stamping?

Yeah it’s all clones. Sorting out the layering was a nightmare!

colinmacc wrote:

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Yeah it’s all clones. Sorting out the layering was a nightmare!

ok, i just saw how the grid and z-layering was set up. theoretically, isnt it possible just to have 1 list containing an entry for each tile where you store the x value as a 2 or 3 number digit, followed by a dash and then a 2-3 number digit corresponding to the y value on the board, and then another dash followed by the same digit system for the z layering? (like having "13-12-5 for a tile at the 13th x position, 12th y position, and 5th z layer?). it could help compact the code and make a slightly easier save code system (just plug in each tiles position with slashes in between each tile?). however, im not exactly sure how that would impact the overlap system. how does it check for overlap, by reading the grid and looking to see if the spot adjacent to the requested spot is filled? or do you use some other unknown method?

Yeah, it just looks up the relative positions on the grid for the tiles around the selected tile.

For most of the tiles, away from the edges, there are 9 possible ways for a tile to be covered up by another tile (!)

colinmacc wrote:

Yeah, it just looks up the relative positions on the grid for the tiles around the selected tile.

For most of the tiles, away from the edges, there are 9 possible ways for a tile to be covered up by another tile (!)

interesting… it probably wouldnt be that hard to do the overlap check with my code idea. i think i'll get working on that first before doing anything with checking how to fix the original issue (hidden playable tiles) just so i can make the code slightly more intuitive for people (including me) to read

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not very challenging but I'd say it's fine

unrelaxing,

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this level is so hard you cannot even start it!

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Love the game, here's my effort 0C0G24262D2F2M2O32383K3Q4E51595J5R6E7074787K7O7S868E8M909SAEB1BRC3CDCFCPD5DBDHDNE7E9EJEL|0C0G24262D2F2M2O32383K3Q51595J5R7074787K7O7S868M909SB1BRC3CDCFCPD5DBDHDNE7E9EJEL|0C0G24262M2O32383K3Q51595J5R7074787K7O7S868M909SB1BRC3CPD5DN|383K595J74787K7O868M|595J74787K7O868M|74787K7O868M|747O868M|747O

gor-dee wrote:

Love the game, here's my effort 0C0G24262D2F2M2O32383K3Q4E51595J5R6E7074787K7O7S868E8M909SAEB1BRC3CDCFCPD5DBDHDNE7E9EJEL|0C0G24262D2F2M2O32383K3Q51595J5R7074787K7O7S868M909SB1BRC3CDCFCPD5DBDHDNE7E9EJEL|0C0G24262M2O32383K3Q51595J5R7074787K7O7S868M909SB1BRC3CPD5DN|383K595J74787K7O868M|595J74787K7O868M|74787K7O868M|747O868M|747O

Wow nice! There are lots of different elements that make that a really hard layout! Tall stacks, obscured tiles, and long chains you need to unlock.

Good stuff!

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wouldn't like to try setting it up with real tiles!

gor-dee wrote:

Here's a nice difficult one 000C0E0G0S1A1I282K363M555N757N959NB6BMC8CKDADIE0ECEEEGES|000C0E0G0S1A1I282K363M555N757N959NB6BMC8CKDADIE0ECEEEGES|0D0F1B1H292J373L565M757N969MB7BLC9CJDBDHEDEF|1D1F2B2H393J474L666M868MA7ALB9BJCBCHDDDF|2E3C3G4A4I585K777L989KAAAIBCBGCE|3D3F4B4H696J898JABAHBDBF|4D4F5B5H7A7I9B9HADAF|5E6C6G8C8G9E|7D7F

wouldn't like to try setting it up with real tiles!

Fantastic!

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tacopufferfish wrote:

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Wow! It looks spectacular!

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funprogramer_animate wrote:

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Nice one!