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PPPDUD
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If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

Example: DuckDuckGo
rdococ
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If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

Bing, because there is no reason to trust Microsoft

This seems a bit open-ended for a thread…

Last edited by rdococ (Oct. 28, 2023 21:12:12)

mybearworld
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1000+ posts

If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

The… added trust of Microsoft? Also, I wouldn't call what DuckDuckGo does stealing.
ajskateboarder
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1000+ posts

If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

rdococ wrote:

This seems a bit open-ended for a thread…
It's close-ended, if anything. This thread was pretty much made to target DuckDuckGo
PPPDUD
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If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

rdococ wrote:

Bing, because there is no reason to trust Microsoft
It's not stealing if your software literally owns the dataset.
davidtheplatform
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If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

PPPDUD wrote:

rdococ wrote:

Bing, because there is no reason to trust Microsoft
It's not stealing if your software literally owns the dataset.
Duckduckgo isn't stealing stuff from bing. If they did microsoft would have sued them and/or blocked their access.

ajskateboarder wrote:

rdococ wrote:

This seems a bit open-ended for a thread…
It's close-ended, if anything. This thread was pretty much made to target DuckDuckGo
+1
Steve0Greatness
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If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

DuckDuckGo gets a good part of it's traditional links from Bing, that is true. However, it also receives a good portion of it's data from other sources,

Where do DuckDuckGo search results come from? - DuckDuckGo Help wrote:

Most of our search result pages feature one or more Instant Answers. To deliver Instant Answers on specific topics, DuckDuckGo leverages many sources, including specialized sources like Sportradar and crowd-sourced sites like Wikipedia. We also maintain our own crawler (DuckDuckBot) and many indexes to support our results. Of course, we have more traditional links and images in our search results too, which we largely source from Bing. Our focus is synthesizing all these sources to create a superior search experience.
DuckDuckGo Help Pages > DuckDuckGo Search Results > Where do DuckDuckGo search results come from?

davidtheplatform wrote:

Duckduckgo isn't stealing stuff from bing. If they did microsoft would have sued them and/or blocked their access.
I doubt that, Microsoft has an API available which basically just lets sites use Bing's search results directly.



Also, I hate how you say “the added trust of Microsoft like they don't treat their products like data-stealing oil-rigs.”
EngineerRunner
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If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

ah yes microsoft, the company we can all trust

that is on my desktop pc

oh yeah, don't forget all this!
DifferentDance8
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1000+ posts

If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

“doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft”
I have a list of words that can describe Microsoft, evil and manipulative being the only 2 words I can actually say on Scratch, but trust isn't one of them.

Last edited by DifferentDance8 (Oct. 29, 2023 10:42:11)

mybearworld
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If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

I really trust this company



Redstone1080
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If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

What do you mean, “the added trust of Microsoft”, cause MS couldn't care less about privacy

Please. Do. Research.
BreadcatGames
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1000+ posts

If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

bing steals data from you so it isn't any better than these services anyway

Last edited by BreadcatGames (Oct. 29, 2023 16:42:44)

jellyfishfisher56
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500+ posts

If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

I will never agree with a sentence that has the words ‘trust’ and ‘Microsoft’ in the same sentence.
Also, this topic was just so PPPDUD could lash out on DuckDuckGo.
-RedLight-
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78 posts

If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

EngineerRunner wrote:

ah yes microsoft, the company we can all trust

-snipped-

that is on my desktop pc

oh yeah, don't forget all this!

-snipped-

It's even worse now. They now have a set of questions after you download chrome to figure out why you didn't just use edge

Last edited by -RedLight- (Nov. 1, 2023 22:55:52)

Privacy_Activist
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If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

PPPDUD wrote:

Example: DuckDuckGo
I usually only rome that AT's and mess around with scratch programs with out an account, but once I saw this topic I had to respond.

To commence, it is imperative to acknowledge DuckDuckGo's paramount commitment to safeguarding user privacy. This search engine abstains from tracking user activities, refrains from retaining personal data, and staunchly avoids the creation of comprehensive user profiles—a practice divergent from Microsoft's approach with Bing. This unyielding dedication to user privacy places DuckDuckGo in a distinguished position in terms of trustworthiness.

Moreover, DuckDuckGo's utilization of Bing's search results does not render it a mere clone. While they do incorporate Bing's data, DuckDuckGo diversifies its search results by drawing from other sources such as Yahoo, Yandex, and implementing its web crawler. Additionally, they offer innovative features like Instant Answers, which supply users with direct, accurate information, circumventing the necessity to navigate numerous external links. This multi-sourced, independent approach ensures a broader spectrum of information and less susceptibility to corporate influence.

Transparency plays a pivotal role in discerning trustworthiness. DuckDuckGo adheres to open source development, making their search algorithm and codebase available for public scrutiny. Microsoft, on the other hand, maintains proprietary practices, preventing a comprehensive evaluation of their search algorithms. DuckDuckGo's commitment to transparency contributes to the confidence users place in their service.

Furthermore, the empowerment of users to customize their search experience is an attribute distinct to DuckDuckGo. They grant users the liberty to select various search themes and the option to disable intrusive features. This emphasis on personalization ensures users feel in control of their online interactions—a facet potentially less pronounced in Bing's standard approach.

In summation, DuckDuckGo's relationship with Bing does not define its overall identity. The measure of trustworthiness in the digital landscape hinges on the manner in which user data is safeguarded, the degree of transparency exhibited, and the extent to which users are afforded control over their online experiences. In these regards, DuckDuckGo outshines Bing by upholding privacy, diversity in search sources, transparency, and user customization.
GIitchInTheMatrix
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If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

If Microsoft owns the data, I’ll be darned given how it apparently owns my website.
-Cassidy

Last edited by GIitchInTheMatrix (Nov. 10, 2023 13:12:30)

TheSmartGuy1234
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If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

“Why not you use Edge? I think it's better.” - Edge
Paddle2See
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If it steals data from Bing but doesn't have the added trust of Microsoft, discuss it here!

jellyfishfisher56 wrote:

I will never agree with a sentence that has the words ‘trust’ and ‘Microsoft’ in the same sentence.
Also, this topic was just so PPPDUD could lash out on DuckDuckGo.
Yeah - seems like an excuse to rant. Let's try for more constructive topics.

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