The cloud variables don't work on this project…

Yeah, just shared a project that uses cloud vars, and it totally fails to put anything into the cloud log…

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/10575810/

Anyone got anything shared recently with cloud vars that's actually working…?

Should add that I also tried making a brand new project, and uploading the scripts into it, then sharing that.
(That's what above project is, actually - the copy I tried after original failed.)

the last time my project worked, was yesterday, i'm not sure if it's people not viewing or the cloud variable not working, i'm guessing cloud variable not working… I can't use my test account because it's a ‘New Scratcher’

apparently 27 people have viewed it, but it sure seems like more have i think it's the cloud variable not working…

EDIT: darn it wrong account.

@SFollis_tests:
Just looked like your project worked for me - at least, the cloud log claims I got added to the list.

DadOfMrLog wrote:

@SFollis_tests:
Just looked like your project worked for me - at least, the cloud log claims I got added to the list.

ok, so it appears that my project works, maybe the glitch depends when it was shared?

EDIT: yeah, that's probably it, because it seems both of your projects were shared the first of june (today)

Yeah, and there was an update yesterday (?) that made some changes to the way cloud works…

i made a test project here http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/10576782/#player

the cloud variables are “working” but the entries are added out of order. it is meant to go up 1 for every click, but the update thing looks like this: 1,2,4,5,3,4

I've just made an exact copy of Wes64's project, and made a remix of it. Neither of them are working for me.

I'm wondering if maybe the problem is actually that projects now made by users who have *never made a cloud variable project before* don't work?
I've never shared a cloud project before…
Maybe there's something that's not getting initialised for the very first time…?

OK, it looks like cloud vars are not working for projects if they are from an existing project - i.e. if they are from a remix or a copy.

See http://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/7043/

DadOfMrLog wrote:

@SFollis_tests:
Just looked like your project worked for me - at least, the cloud log claims I got added to the list.

Confirmed that this particular case works.

taddl wrote:

The cloud variables don't work on this project…

Is that a copy of another project that you had?

DadOfMrLog wrote:

OK, it looks like cloud vars are not working for projects if they are from an existing project - i.e. if they are from a remix or a copy.

See http://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/7043/

Awesome - thanks for investigating. Am looking into it.

oh no! my project isn't working because of this, you can vote twice. Now i just have to put votes back manually it won't update the cloud variable by itself although it should do it by itself.

EDIT: and it doesn't show that i updated the cloud variable manually in the cloud log!

@DadOfMrLog : My project doesn't work even it is not remixed . Here's the link: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/11358745/#player

It did work once, but that was yesterday. And later on it never worked like yesterday.

I noticed something:
When I change the cloud variables in this project when I followed the link in the message-box to a comment, it sets the cloud variable back after some seconds.
But if I delete the part of the URL that leads to the comment, the cloud variables work!

I've been experimenting with cloud variables for the last couple of days and was having quite a bit of difficulty. I suspect there is an issue with browser compatibility. When I ran the project simultaneously in Chrome on two computers, I ran into problems. I suspected the cache was not updating correctly. When I closed Chrome on one computer and opened the project in Firefox, it seemed to run fine on both systems.

alex0091845 wrote:

@DadOfMrLog : My project doesn't work even it is not remixed . Here's the link: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/11358745/#player

It did work once, but that was yesterday. And later on it never worked like yesterday.

That's interesting. After I heard what LiFaytheGoblin said, I thought removing the #player from the URL would work, but it didn't.

Try replacing the “set high score to” block with this script.

@alex0091845:

Did you upload it at some point from a file on disk? This also (used to?) cause cloud vars to stop working.

Anyway, whatever it may be, I'd suggest you delete the cloud var and create a new one (probably best to go for a different name just to be sure) - and make sure you've purged all mention of the old one from your scripts, replacing with the new one.

BTW, I noticed one thing in your scratch cat sprite (Sprite1): you have “when P key pressed”. But there are several clones of that sprite, so they will all respond to this and try to run the pause script. It may happen to work right now, but some simple change later on could cause this to break…

If you want to keep that script in the same sprite, then you'll have to make sure you can tell apart the clones from the original sprite. (e.g. by using a local variable that's set to zero “when GF clicked”, but set to one “when I start as a clone”. Then you can have just the original doing the pausing by checking if that variable is zero.)

A simpler way would be to move the “when P key pressed” script to another sprite that doesn't have clones (“pause” is a global var, so it should be fine, right?) - probably “Sprite4” would make sense

EDIT: Maybe you're aware of this already, but just in case (since it's similar to above)… all clones also respond to broadcasts. At the moment you're ok since there are no other clones around when you broadcast “message1” - but it's so easy to fall into that trap (forgetting to stop your clones acting on a broadcast if you only want the original sprite to act upon it) - done it myself, even recently

I managed to get cloud variables working for simple multi-player interaction in this project:

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/11466955/

It runs fine in Firefox, but seems to glitch when I use Chrome, especially when editing.
I'm sure with a few tweaks the lag and jumpiness could be improved.

I just made this remix of a project with cloud variables http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/11472956/ and it worked, so that's not always the issue
.

sdg1 wrote:

taddl wrote:

The cloud variables don't work on this project…

Is that a copy of another project that you had?

DadOfMrLog wrote:

OK, it looks like cloud vars are not working for projects if they are from an existing project - i.e. if they are from a remix or a copy.

See http://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/7043/

Awesome - thanks for investigating. Am looking into it.

@DadOfMrLog:

Thanks for your advice , I'll try to do what you said above.