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-Zyntronic-
Scratcher
72 posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

It`s super annoying when I`m trying to speed up or speed down the specific sound but pitch changes as well. There`s not really a point to it. You can already change it using the block in the hierarchy, so why also keep it? I`d appreciate it if the ST listened to this. This isn`t as irrational as solving bugs so I guess it could be done.

Last edited by -Zyntronic- (Oct. 4, 2022 15:26:46)

randomguy3513
Scratcher
1000+ posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

either i used the sound editor for too long or this is actually just what happens when you speed it up
CoconutGator
Scratcher
1000+ posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

It works like this in pretty much any sound editor anywhere. Speeding up a sound naturally increases the pitch, it's not really an intentional effect. It could be removed (I think) but then the Scratch sound editor would be different from most and it would cause a lot of questions on why it's different.
-Zyntronic-
Scratcher
72 posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

CoconutGator wrote:

It works like this in pretty much any sound editor anywhere. Speeding up a sound naturally increases the pitch, it's not really an intentional effect. It could be removed (I think) but then the Scratch sound editor would be different from most and it would cause a lot of questions on why it's different.
It'd not natural. It's an added effect. The only exception is on music discs. Digital doesn't work like that.
oxiti8
Scratcher
1000+ posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

-Zyntronic- wrote:

CoconutGator wrote:

It works like this in pretty much any sound editor anywhere. Speeding up a sound naturally increases the pitch, it's not really an intentional effect. It could be removed (I think) but then the Scratch sound editor would be different from most and it would cause a lot of questions on why it's different.
It'd not natural. It's an added effect. The only exception is on music discs. Digital doesn't work like that.
By speeding it up, you are increasing the frequency. Higher frequency means higher pitch.
-Zyntronic-
Scratcher
72 posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

oxiti8 wrote:

-Zyntronic- wrote:

CoconutGator wrote:

It works like this in pretty much any sound editor anywhere. Speeding up a sound naturally increases the pitch, it's not really an intentional effect. It could be removed (I think) but then the Scratch sound editor would be different from most and it would cause a lot of questions on why it's different.
It'd not natural. It's an added effect. The only exception is on music discs. Digital doesn't work like that.
By speeding it up, you are increasing the frequency. Higher frequency means higher pitch.
You can fix this by pitch scaling.
-Valtren-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

there's really no way to increase the speed of the sound without increasing the pitch as well. and this feature is useful for people trying to use the sound editor as an audio editor or people trying to muffle a sound(the technique uses this feature quite a lot).
-Zyntronic-
Scratcher
72 posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

-Valtren- wrote:

there's really no way to increase the speed of the sound without increasing the pitch as well. and this feature is useful for people trying to use the sound editor as an audio editor or people trying to muffle a sound(the technique uses this feature quite a lot).
It is possible in many softwares, so why can't scratch do that?
-Valtren-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

-Zyntronic- wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

there's really no way to increase the speed of the sound without increasing the pitch as well. and this feature is useful for people trying to use the sound editor as an audio editor or people trying to muffle a sound(the technique uses this feature quite a lot).
It is possible in many softwares, so why can't scratch do that?
because scratch has a basic audio editor meant to be simple and fit basic needs, and it was made by developers who most likely know very little to nothing on how sound pitching works.
edit: another thing is that those softwares are meant specifically for audio editing, which scratch isn't.

Last edited by -Valtren- (Oct. 4, 2022 17:47:38)

-Qlec-
Scratcher
100+ posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

-Zyntronic- wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

there's really no way to increase the speed of the sound without increasing the pitch as well. and this feature is useful for people trying to use the sound editor as an audio editor or people trying to muffle a sound(the technique uses this feature quite a lot).
It is possible in many softwares, so why can't scratch do that?
The Scratch Team does have other priorities to focus on, and a life outside of working on Scratch.
super_Calvin
Scratcher
27 posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

-Zyntronic- wrote:

It`s super annoying when I`m trying to speed up or speed down the specific sound but pitch changes as well. There`s not really a point to it. You can already change it using the block in the hierarchy, so why also keep it? I`d appreciate it if the ST listened to this. This isn`t as irrational as solving bugs so I guess it could be done.
yes and then we can just add pitch up and pitch down functions in the sound sprite. then it will be a lot better.
yavuz61035
Scratcher
500+ posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

really the only solution to this is just skipping a bit of the sound every so often (like for a 2x increase skip 1 frame, leave 1 frame, skip 1 frame, leave 1 frame, etc.) however that also decreases the detail
Parkergreatgamer
Scratcher
23 posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

oxiti8 wrote:

-Zyntronic- wrote:

CoconutGator wrote:

It works like this in pretty much any sound editor anywhere. Speeding up a sound naturally increases the pitch, it's not really an intentional effect. It could be removed (I think) but then the Scratch sound editor would be different from most and it would cause a lot of questions on why it's different.
It'd not natural. It's an added effect. The only exception is on music discs. Digital doesn't work like that.
By speeding it up, you are increasing the frequency. Higher frequency means higher pitch.
You can still just make it only delete only some delay before notes in the sound, making it faster without a higher pitch. Done
Parkergreatgamer
Scratcher
23 posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

super_Calvin wrote:

-Zyntronic- wrote:

It`s super annoying when I`m trying to speed up or speed down the specific sound but pitch changes as well. There`s not really a point to it. You can already change it using the block in the hierarchy, so why also keep it? I`d appreciate it if the ST listened to this. This isn`t as irrational as solving bugs so I guess it could be done.
yes and then we can just add pitch up and pitch down functions in the sound sprite. then it will be a lot better.
Yeah!
Parkergreatgamer
Scratcher
23 posts

⨀ Remove pitching effect when changing sound speed ⨀

I agree with all of this

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