What's this block? (Change stretch by "x")

happyfacesofdylan

Hello Fellow Scratchers!

I was looking at a really old scratch project (Released 2011) and I was really surprised to see a new block.
The link to the project: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1646338/
It looked like this:

change stretch by [5]

and…

set stretch to [100]

Any idea what these did? Why were they removed? I have not been on scratch long enough to see 2.0 and 1.0 versions of scratch, so I'm quite confused on this.

Thanks!

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Super_Scratch_Bros20

It made a sprite stretch horizontally, but it was removed for unknown reasons. It no longer works in the 3.0 editor, but it does work in the Scratch 1.4 editor.

Aloeheart6

I've never seen that before :0 it probably got removed when Scratch updated.

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Aloeheart6 wrote:
I've never seen that before :0 it probably got removed when Scratch updated.

As far as I'm aware, these blocks were never formally in a version of Scratch released to the public. I believe they were blocks which were created in a pre-release version of Scratch 1.0. They were removed before releasing Scratch 1.0 because they didn't work correctly.

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CST1229

Za-Chary wrote:
They were removed before releasing Scratch 1.0 because they didn't work correctly.

They definitely did work correctly (at least, they do in 1.4, don't know about prerelease).

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Za-Chary

CST1229 wrote:
They definitely did work correctly (at least, they do in 1.4, don't know about prerelease).

Ah, okay, according to this source, they were removed for “unknown reasons”: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Change_Stretch_by_()_(block)

I'll have to stop saying that they didn't work right.

To clarify: although they worked in 1.4, they were not a part of the standard block editor in 1.4, so for all intents and purposes, they were not “removed” when Scratch updated to 2.0.

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GalakC

I dont recognize that block.

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k0d3rrr

GalakC wrote:
I dont recognize that block.

Here's the Scratch Wiki to the rescue!

Scratch Wiki wrote:
The Set Stretch to () block was a Looks block and a Stack block. The block was used to set the horizontal stretch value, which was cleared when the size is set or changed. It was removed in an early version of Scratch for unknown reasons, and it was made an obsolete block. This block is not in Scratch 2.0 or Scratch 3.0 anymore, but still usable in Scratch 1.4.

The Change Stretch by () block was a Looks block and a Stack block. It made the sprite stretch horizontally. The stretch would reset when adjusting the size of a sprite. It was removed from the block palette in an early version of Scratch for unknown reasons. This block does nothing in Scratch 3.0, but it can still be imported as part of older projects, and it is still functional in the Scratch 1.4 offline editor.

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ExampleScratcher1 wrote:
How do I make a smooth gliding animation?
when green flag clicked
repeat until <(my question) = [answered]>
ask [How do I make a smooth gliding animation?] and wait
end
say [Thank you!]

is not blockspam, but these

ExampleScratcher2 (first post) wrote:

when green flag clicked
move (58) steps
play sound [Stock Laughter Sound Effect HD - 1 Hour v]
forever
play sound [Stock Screaming Sound Effect HD - 1 Hour v]
switch backdrop to [internet v]
say [i broke the internet] for (2) secs
turn cw (15) degrees
go to [nearby restaurant v]
next costume
end

ExampleScratcher2 (second post) wrote:

when green flag clicked
repeat until <(out of dorito's) = [true]>
broadcast [eat dorito chip v]
end
say [IM OUT OF DORITO'S!!!!!!!!! :(]
play sound [Scream2 v] until done
forever
turn cw (120) degrees
play sound [Scream2 v]
play sound [we have no dorito's sorry v]
end

are blockspam, and must be reported.

GalakC

k0d3rrr wrote:
GalakC wrote:
I dont recognize that block.
Here's the Scratch Wiki to the rescue!
Scratch Wiki wrote:
The Set Stretch to () block was a Looks block and a Stack block. The block was used to set the horizontal stretch value, which was cleared when the size is set or changed. It was removed in an early version of Scratch for unknown reasons, and it was made an obsolete block. This block is not in Scratch 2.0 or Scratch 3.0 anymore, but still usable in Scratch 1.4.

The Change Stretch by () block was a Looks block and a Stack block. It made the sprite stretch horizontally. The stretch would reset when adjusting the size of a sprite. It was removed from the block palette in an early version of Scratch for unknown reasons. This block does nothing in Scratch 3.0, but it can still be imported as part of older projects, and it is still functional in the Scratch 1.4 offline editor.

Thanks! lol

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k0d3rrr

GalakC wrote:
k0d3rrr wrote:
GalakC wrote:
I dont recognize that block.
Here's the Scratch Wiki to the rescue!
Scratch Wiki wrote:
The Set Stretch to () block was a Looks block and a Stack block. The block was used to set the horizontal stretch value, which was cleared when the size is set or changed. It was removed in an early version of Scratch for unknown reasons, and it was made an obsolete block. This block is not in Scratch 2.0 or Scratch 3.0 anymore, but still usable in Scratch 1.4.

The Change Stretch by () block was a Looks block and a Stack block. It made the sprite stretch horizontally. The stretch would reset when adjusting the size of a sprite. It was removed from the block palette in an early version of Scratch for unknown reasons. This block does nothing in Scratch 3.0, but it can still be imported as part of older projects, and it is still functional in the Scratch 1.4 offline editor.

Thanks! lol

You're welcome!

(To the creator of this topic) I hope that answers your question.

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If you are reporting a new forumer's topic to be closed, or moved to another forum, don't mention it, because then, the topic creator will think they will receive either an alert or a block.
New forumers won't immediately know the rules or terminology of the forums. I have seen this happen hundreds of times (exaggeratedly), especially when experienced forumers (I won't name any) tell new forumers that they are "necroposting", which is when someone posts on an old and resolved topic (especially in the Questions about Scratch forum), causing said topic to be moved to the front page of that forum.

Using Scratchblocks as a writing style is not blockspam, unless it is not relevant to the discussion. For example, this

ExampleScratcher1 wrote:
How do I make a smooth gliding animation?
when green flag clicked
repeat until <(my question) = [answered]>
ask [How do I make a smooth gliding animation?] and wait
end
say [Thank you!]

is not blockspam, but these

ExampleScratcher2 (first post) wrote:

when green flag clicked
move (58) steps
play sound [Stock Laughter Sound Effect HD - 1 Hour v]
forever
play sound [Stock Screaming Sound Effect HD - 1 Hour v]
switch backdrop to [internet v]
say [i broke the internet] for (2) secs
turn cw (15) degrees
go to [nearby restaurant v]
next costume
end

ExampleScratcher2 (second post) wrote:

when green flag clicked
repeat until <(out of dorito's) = [true]>
broadcast [eat dorito chip v]
end
say [IM OUT OF DORITO'S!!!!!!!!! :(]
play sound [Scream2 v] until done
forever
turn cw (120) degrees
play sound [Scream2 v]
play sound [we have no dorito's sorry v]
end

are blockspam, and must be reported.

RED-001-alt

I remember something about them removing the stretch block nearly in the life of Scratch, but I've never seen one in the wild!

And it looks like this did work once, according to the thumbnail: https://cdn2.scratch.mit.edu/get_image/project/1646338_282x210.png

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happyfacesofdylan

Thank you for all the answers! I'll definitely try opening it in Scratch 1.4 and see what it does.
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happyfacesofdylan

It does appear people are asking for this block back:

Za-Chary wrote:
Aloeheart6 wrote:
I've never seen that before :0 it probably got removed when Scratch updated.
As far as I'm aware, these blocks were never formally in a version of Scratch released to the public. I believe they were blocks which were created in a pre-release version of Scratch 1.0. They were removed before releasing Scratch 1.0 because they didn't work correctly.

I wonder how this person got the blocks then…

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