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- slap83
- Scratcher
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On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
okay, i think that some aprol fools jokes like rick rolls and jumpscares are okay, but there is one thing i absoluely hate. social media project mocking. if you make a thread and block a certain person from it just to mock them, it can lead to very bad problems, like rumors or negative publicity. that is a very uncool joke, and its not even a joke at all in my mind.It always happens (irl)Why? I don't think ST is that evil…I recommend you don't do that, or it will turn into a rule (I speak from experience)I agree that the spamming was totally out of hand last year. I even had to shut down a few areas for a period of time - which may have interfered with normal forum operations. So that was too much.
However, I've enjoyed some of the more carefully crafted prank topics and don't see why they have to stop. I guess we'll have to have a Scratch Team meeting to come to an agreement.
Yes!! No rule for no joke topics
My thoughts were already stolen
- -PizzaKing-
- Scratcher
100+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
Okay so what can we joke about?
- A48cReturns
- Scratcher
35 posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
Don't do it. We don't want a repeat of last year where a lot of users were denied help because the forums got flooded and mods spent a lot of time cleaning up instead of other reports. You're better off making an April Fools project instead of a joke forum topic.
- VioletCalico
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
Don't do it. We don't want a repeat of last year where a lot of users were denied help because the forums got flooded and mods spent a lot of time cleaning up instead of other reports. You're better off making an April Fools project instead of a joke forum topic.
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I agree that the spamming was totally out of hand last year. I even had to shut down a few areas for a period of time - which may have interfered with normal forum operations. So that was too much.
However, I've enjoyed some of the more carefully crafted prank topics and don't see why they have to stop. I guess we'll have to have a Scratch Team meeting to come to an agreement.
- dertermenter
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
(#39)Yeah, I do as well… maybe this one will have to remain unsolvedHmmm small minority… I wonder who it was Most people did joke topics fine, and there was just a small minority who thought it was acceptable to spam.
Seriously though, please do not do anything like that again this year - it affected April Fools day last year with the Suggestions new topic button getting taken down and controbuited to the spam overall, which is the reason for this big desicion here.
If only this dumb, unfunny and pointless “E” meme did not exist…
- slap83
- Scratcher
100+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
(#39)okay, so I will say, I don't quite get the whole thing with spam being a problem. Spam is just an over abundance of mail! So, there must've been something else with the whole spam bit for 4/1. Get back to me.Hmmm small minority… I wonder who it was Most people did joke topics fine, and there was just a small minority who thought it was acceptable to spam.
Yeah, I do as well… maybe this one will have to remain unsolved
Seriously though, please do not do anything like that again this year - it affected April Fools day last year with the Suggestions new topic button getting taken down and controbuited to the spam overall, which is the reason for this big desicion here.
If only this dumb, unfunny and pointless “E” meme did not exist…
- PoIygon
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
(#45)but it did give us information like the ST is gonna be annoyed at the small minority and the ST can shut down forums.(#39)Yeah, I do as well… maybe this one will have to remain unsolvedHmmm small minority… I wonder who it was Most people did joke topics fine, and there was just a small minority who thought it was acceptable to spam.
Seriously though, please do not do anything like that again this year - it affected April Fools day last year with the Suggestions new topic button getting taken down and controbuited to the spam overall, which is the reason for this big desicion here.
If only this dumb, unfunny and pointless “E” meme did not exist…
Last edited by PoIygon (March 19, 2022 02:23:26)
- jackson49
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
The main problem is that spam makes it extremely difficult for moderators to clean up the forums once April Fools is over. Cleaning up the normal April Fools topics is already hard enough for them. okay, so I will say, I don't quite get the whole thing with spam being a problem. Spam is just an over abundance of mail! So, there must've been something else with the whole spam bit for 4/1. Get back to me.
That said, disallowing April Fools topics is an extremely bad solution to the problem. Measures need to be taken against spam topics, not normal joke topics.
Last edited by jackson49 (March 19, 2022 05:45:12)
- VedanshS933
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
(#39)Yeah, I do as well… maybe this one will have to remain unsolvedHmmm small minority… I wonder who it was Most people did joke topics fine, and there was just a small minority who thought it was acceptable to spam.
Seriously though, please do not do anything like that again this year - it affected April Fools day last year with the Suggestions new topic button getting taken down and controbuited to the spam overall, which is the reason for this big desicion here.
If only this dumb, unfunny and pointless “E” meme did not exist…
It might be closed on April 2
- slap83
- Scratcher
100+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
Yes, I see… So, what does it mean to “clean up” the forums?The main problem is that spam makes it extremely difficult for moderators to clean up the forums once April Fools is over. Cleaning up the normal April Fools topics is already hard enough for them. okay, so I will say, I don't quite get the whole thing with spam being a problem. Spam is just an over abundance of mail! So, there must've been something else with the whole spam bit for 4/1. Get back to me.
That said, disallowing April Fools topics is an extremely bad solution to the problem. Measures need to be taken against spam topics, not normal joke topics.
- k0d3rrr
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
Removing spam/inappropriate posts or topics/insignificant posts/troll topics, etc.Yes, I see… So, what does it mean to “clean up” the forums?The main problem is that spam makes it extremely difficult for moderators to clean up the forums once April Fools is over. Cleaning up the normal April Fools topics is already hard enough for them. okay, so I will say, I don't quite get the whole thing with spam being a problem. Spam is just an over abundance of mail! So, there must've been something else with the whole spam bit for 4/1. Get back to me.
That said, disallowing April Fools topics is an extremely bad solution to the problem. Measures need to be taken against spam topics, not normal joke topics.
- CST1229
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
(#28)I would assume the forums have an admin panel where they could create a forum in like 5 minutes.Too much work for the ST, they can't just simply create that in 2 weeks.What if there was a separate forum (like Questions About Scratch, probably not a whole other collections of forums) on April Fools day for joke topics, and then the next day the ST would just delete the forum? Don't do it. We don't want a repeat of last year where a lot of users were denied help because the forums got flooded and mods spent a lot of time cleaning up instead of other reports. You're better off making an April Fools project instead of a joke forum topic.
- 10goto10
- Scratcher
500+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
You’re probably right but how about posting something in Show and Tell instead? The Scratch Team wants us to make projects instead of forum topics, but any project that follows the guidelines can be legitimately advertised in ‘Show and Tell”. I would assume the forums have an admin panel where they could create a forum in like 5 minutes.
So, if I understand the rules, If I make an ‘announcement’ project that Microsoft has purchased Scratch, I can make a Show and Tell topic: “Annoucement: Microsoft buys SCRATCH. Click here for more information”. And then have that topic link to my project that celebrates this change.
Or a suggestion type topic in Show and Tell “Let SCRATCH Patreon users be admins - details inside” and then have a project where you list all the reasons why this would be a great idea.
- Wifi_Spider
- Scratcher
100+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
You can do jokes but don't do things bad like violence
- ScratchCat1038
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
There's been a lot of controversies. Despite this post:
Post 7 of this topic (I believe)was just an opinion, though, but post 60 of the Don't ban fun topic actually closing it seems like it's official. However, cheddargirl is the only one I've seen expressing this opinion, so you may see joke topics in 11 days. We'll just have to wait until the meeting for a final answer.
cheddargirl recently closed a topic in suggestions stating “Don't ban fun!”, so that may be a big sway into no joke topics. I don't know when the meeting will be commenced, nor do I know what the result will be. But please don't be surprised if joke topics are banned. It's sad, but it could happen… I agree that the spamming was totally out of hand last year. I even had to shut down a few areas for a period of time - which may have interfered with normal forum operations. So that was too much.
However, I've enjoyed some of the more carefully crafted prank topics and don't see why they have to stop. I guess we'll have to have a Scratch Team meeting to come to an agreement.
Post 7 of this topic (I believe)was just an opinion, though, but post 60 of the Don't ban fun topic actually closing it seems like it's official. However, cheddargirl is the only one I've seen expressing this opinion, so you may see joke topics in 11 days. We'll just have to wait until the meeting for a final answer.
- slap83
- Scratcher
100+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
just dont do polotics or durogatory stuff, and youll be fine There's been a lot of controversies. Despite this post:cheddargirl recently closed a topic in suggestions stating “Don't ban fun!”, so that may be a big sway into no joke topics. I don't know when the meeting will be commenced, nor do I know what the result will be. But please don't be surprised if joke topics are banned. It's sad, but it could happen… I agree that the spamming was totally out of hand last year. I even had to shut down a few areas for a period of time - which may have interfered with normal forum operations. So that was too much.
However, I've enjoyed some of the more carefully crafted prank topics and don't see why they have to stop. I guess we'll have to have a Scratch Team meeting to come to an agreement.
Post 7 of this topic (I believe)was just an opinion, though, but post 60 of the Don't ban fun topic actually closing it seems like it's official. However, cheddargirl is the only one I've seen expressing this opinion, so you may see joke topics in 11 days. We'll just have to wait until the meeting for a final answer.
- hi875230163394
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
Its a bit more complicated than that unfortunatelyjust dont do polotics or durogatory stuff, and youll be fine There's been a lot of controversies. Despite this post:cheddargirl recently closed a topic in suggestions stating “Don't ban fun!”, so that may be a big sway into no joke topics. I don't know when the meeting will be commenced, nor do I know what the result will be. But please don't be surprised if joke topics are banned. It's sad, but it could happen… I agree that the spamming was totally out of hand last year. I even had to shut down a few areas for a period of time - which may have interfered with normal forum operations. So that was too much.
However, I've enjoyed some of the more carefully crafted prank topics and don't see why they have to stop. I guess we'll have to have a Scratch Team meeting to come to an agreement.
Post 7 of this topic (I believe)was just an opinion, though, but post 60 of the Don't ban fun topic actually closing it seems like it's official. However, cheddargirl is the only one I've seen expressing this opinion, so you may see joke topics in 11 days. We'll just have to wait until the meeting for a final answer.
- EeveeLegends
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
I feel like this is a reasonable request. Joke topics tend to get really annoying real fast (I made one last year and after that I got bored with the jokes lol), and users might actually want help on April Fool's. Besides, April Fool's projects have more creative opportunity than joke topics, imo. Don't do it. We don't want a repeat of last year where a lot of users were denied help because the forums got flooded and mods spent a lot of time cleaning up instead of other reports. You're better off making an April Fools project instead of a joke forum topic.
- jackson49
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
I think the previous thread has outlived its useful life. We understand your frustration and want to be sure everyone can have fun on April Fools, but the whole forum moderation team agrees that previous years were much too spammy. That includes me and Paddle2See. We're still discussing what we think an optimal solution might be and will update you as soon as we can. In the meantime, I'd like to ask that you not come to us individually trying to get a ruling from us. While you're allowed to ask us to reconsider things, we make decisions as a team and its disrespectful to try to pit us against each other. We'll let you know when we've decided on a suitable arrangement.Source
If you want to discuss what is and is not suitable for AF activities on the forums, this topic would be a good place to look instead. Just please remember to stay on-topic.
Last edited by jackson49 (March 21, 2022 22:26:34)
- slap83
- Scratcher
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On April Fool's Day, how far can joke topics go?
aye, all your analysises are fine, but what can we joke about that doesnt get old and painful so quickly? get back to me.
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