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Flowermanvista
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

I'm sure you've all seen the large number of “my project won't save” topics here in the forums recently. I haven't actually gone and counted, but it feels like there's at least one being made every day.

This is something I've been working on for a few days to try and make this easier for everyone - the Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter will take your project and tell you why it isn't saving (something the Scratch editor apparently can't do), and give you advice about how to fix it.

Check it out here: https://flowermanvista.github.io/ScratchTools/ProjectSaveTroubleshooter/

Last edited by Flowermanvista (Aug. 5, 2022 22:22:37)

Flowermanvista
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

bump
SuperSonicmario
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

Projects I uploaded from Scratch 1.4 can't be updated. That has nothing to do with size limits.
Chiroyce
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

Flowermanvista wrote:

Check it out here: https://flowermanvista.github.io/ScratchTools/ProjectJsonMinimizer/index.html
This link looks MUCH better - https://flowermanvista.github.io/ScratchTools/ProjectJsonMinimizer
(GitHub pages will default to index.html if the filename isn't provided

Last edited by Chiroyce (Feb. 4, 2022 10:56:48)

T0RRENT_
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

Can this also compress lists (as having over 200,000 items in a list will cause it not to save)?
Flowermanvista
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

T0RRENT_ wrote:

Can this also compress lists (as having over 200,000 items in a list will cause it not to save)?
Under normal circumstances, it's not actually possible to have more than 200,000 items in a list - Scratch will not allow you to add any more if it has 200,000 items. Even if you edit project.json to make the list over 200,000 items long, the project will still save as long as project.json is not too big.

AFAIK it's not possible to “compress” lists other than removing the list monitor, which the Project.json minimizer already does. Any attempt to modify their contents might make them incompatible with whatever method that the project creator used to manage list data.
Chiroyce
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

bump!

also this doesn't look great on mobile..

Last edited by Chiroyce (March 3, 2022 08:28:32)

Flowermanvista
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

Chiroyce wrote:

also this doesn't look great on mobile..
(image snip)
oh good, something I don't know how to do.

To be honest I'm not really sure if this is that much of an issue since it's really not practical to use Scratch on phones anyways. It also seems to behave fine in landscape mode on all of the (simulated) devices in Firefox's default list, so…
Chiroyce
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

Flowermanvista wrote:

To be honest I'm not really sure if this is that much of an issue since it's really not practical to use Scratch on phones anyways. It also seems to behave fine in landscape mode on all of the (simulated) devices in Firefox's default list, so…
I agree, most people would probably use this on a laptop/desktop so this wouldn't be much of an issue.
Steve0Greatness
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

Chiroyce wrote:

This link looks MUCH better - https://flowermanvista.github.io/ScratchTools/ProjectJsonMinimizer
(GitHub pages will default to index.html if the filename isn't provided
That's not just GitHub pages… it's just your web browser rendering static websites. First, it requests the exact path that you tried to access. If it gets a 404, then it requests for the index.html.
Of course, that's just how I think it works.
god286
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

Steve0Greatness wrote:

Chiroyce wrote:

This link looks MUCH better - https://flowermanvista.github.io/ScratchTools/ProjectJsonMinimizer
(GitHub pages will default to index.html if the filename isn't provided
That's not just GitHub pages… it's just your web browser rendering static websites. First, it requests the exact path that you tried to access. If it gets a 404, then it requests for the index.html.
Of course, that's just how I think it works.
Actually, the server sends back the index.html when you go to https://example.com/
edit: A bit more detailed:
When you go to the example.com/ page, your browser sends GET request to https://example.com/ not https://example.com/index.html
Have you ever seen a website where instead of index.html it is index.php or maybe shtml extension? If the browser gave an opinion on index.html then these would not work.
Instead, it is the server's responsibility to give index.html when requesting the / page.
Sometimes servers might have the / page go to a different file, not index.html

Last edited by god286 (June 13, 2022 08:57:52)

Steve0Greatness
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

god286 wrote:

Actually, the server sends back the index.html when you go to https://example.com/
Oh… I didn't know that.
ZZC12345
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

Steve0Greatness wrote:

Chiroyce wrote:

This link looks MUCH better - https://flowermanvista.github.io/ScratchTools/ProjectJsonMinimizer
(GitHub pages will default to index.html if the filename isn't provided
That's not just GitHub pages… it's just your web browser rendering static websites. First, it requests the exact path that you tried to access. If it gets a 404, then it requests for the index.html.
Of course, that's just how I think it works.
It's not the client – static hosts in general should render index.html when a path with no extension that would normally return 404 is requested:
Client | GET https://mystaticweb.site/cool_webpage/ HTTP/1.1
↓↑
Server | Ok, no extension and file does not exist - serve static_files/cool_webpage/index.html
Static websites and regular websites look the same to your web browser. It's the server deciding what to send to the client.
tiny_baby_boy77
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

i think it won't save cuz i had this problem and because you might be signed off or logged off your account
AkaiHonoo
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

I'm probably thinking it's too much data for your computer to save all at the same time unless it's taking it's time or it's either your computer can't handle how many blocks there are in the project. I don't think either of those are right though because when I just joined scratch the project wouldn't save any of them even though my email was confirmed.
Duxi7473
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

Chiroyce wrote:

bump!

also this doesn't look great on mobile..

bro I have a nokia and it's res is so small I can't even see anything!

Last edited by Duxi7473 (Oct. 1, 2023 21:16:24)

chriscreators14
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

Duxi7473 wrote:

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Chiroyce wrote:

bump!

also this doesn't look great on mobile..

bro I have a nokia and it's res is so small I can't even see anything!
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GM15TOT
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

My project take too long to save my project and i tried
Bluewalker663
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

Help! I can't save my project, everything is fine for everyone, but for me, I says that I can't save my project, even in the newest version.
This is a big problem.

when green flag clicked
broadcast [ Save Project]
repeat until <Project Saving = 1>

if <Project Saving = 1> then
broadcast [ Save Project]


else
say [Your Project Can't save!]
wait until <mouse down?>
end
GM15TOT
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The Scratch 3 Project Save Troubleshooter (why isn't your project saving? find out here!)

Project save is having trouble. maybe when all projects are offline if they don't let project save.

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