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- sharkode
- Scratcher
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Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
People using copyrighted contents are also breaking the law, but they aren't permanently bannedsorry, Even if it is illegal it still doesn't mean they should be permanently bannedWHAT?
It should depend on the severity of the crime
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- TopCode
- Scratcher
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Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
usually fair use is at play, when its not the content is removed. the only way to remove impersonation is to remove the accountPeople using copyrighted contents are also breaking the law, but they aren't permanently bannedsorry, Even if it is illegal it still doesn't mean they should be permanently bannedWHAT?
It should depend on the severity of the crime
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- sharkode
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
That's not true, the only thing that can't be changed on an account is the username, and it doesn't automatically make you an impersonator if your username is similar to someone else's the only way to remove impersonation is to remove the account
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- Support - Means someone supports a suggestion, make sure to say the reason when you are supporting a suggestion.
- No support - Means someone don't support a suggestion, while it may sound a little mean, it's actually not as not everybody have to support the suggestion you purposed.
- Bump - Bumping is a method of bringing a topic back to the front page.
- Necroposting - Means bringing an old, dead, topic that nobody cares about back to life, necroposting comes from the greek word “nekros” meaning “corpse”, necroposting is prohibited as it wastes front page space.
- Ocular - A website that allows you to search forum posts.
- Dupe/duplicate - Posts that suggests the same thing, it's a good idea to use Ocular.
- ST - Is short for Scratch Team, the moderators on this site.
- ToS - Is short for Terms of Use, a bunch of legal jargon and stuffs like that.
- TOLoRS - Is short for The Official List of Rejected Suggestions, it's always a good idea to read it before making a suggestion.
- Kaj - A user who threatened to hack Scratch, he later became a legend and people often joked about him hacking posts.
- k0d3rrr
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
Yeah! This is a good idea, and the topic name has a sense of empowerment to it, too! YEAH!
#GetRidOfImpersonatorsPretendingToBeRealPeopleLikeGriffpatchAndOtherPeople
And… bump.
#GetRidOfImpersonatorsPretendingToBeRealPeopleLikeGriffpatchAndOtherPeople
And… bump.
Last edited by k0d3rrr (April 6, 2022 07:30:51)
AI isn't being added to Scratch anytime soon. If you want to, you could also read this related essay, which was not made by me.
I also found the earliest mention of Scratch 4.0 on the forums.
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- Gato_Amigo111
- Scratcher
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Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
This makes sense, where as some impersonators are just joking.
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- Silicobra
- New Scratcher
100+ posts
Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
Make them a way to keep some data but change the username onto a new account I don't think impersonators should be banned without a warning, even if they are, the bans should be appealable
Some people say they shouldn't be given a second chance because their usernames are “impersonating usernames”, but I think it happens all the time, like if someone used the username @-sharkode-, does it mean they should be banned? I don't think so
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- NanoRook
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
I've got a simpler suggestion: if you don't want your account to be banned, don't violate the TOS and impersonate another user.
Let me tell you a fun story from a few years ago. There was a person who created an account called griffpatch_edu. They took his icon, changed the background to red, and basically strung up their profile to look like it was an account he'd made. When questioned, the user behind the account said that they were the real griffpatch, just creating another account for educational purposes, or whatever the justification was. They said that the actual griffpatch account hadn't announced it yet because it was still being set up. For all intents and purposes, they were absolutely trying to pretend to be griffpatch.
Even with skeptics in the comments, the user had amassed a decent following before the account was reported and promptly trashed for trying to impersonate the real griffpatch.
Now, I want to ask; what is the value of keeping this user around? Let's say instead of getting deleted, they just got a warning. I doubt it'd stop them, and this griffpatch_edu person would be free to keep pretending to be someone they're not, putting words in griff's mouth and lord knows what else, considering the account could very well be used to attach things to his name that he would not want attached to his name. With what you're suggesting, libel would totally be possible and allowed to happen.
Having an exact replica of someone else's name is something you have to intentionally try to do during the account creation process. I doubt accidental impersonation happens, and if it does, it has to be ridiculously rare. I have been here for almost a decade and have never seen it happen.
Let me tell you a fun story from a few years ago. There was a person who created an account called griffpatch_edu. They took his icon, changed the background to red, and basically strung up their profile to look like it was an account he'd made. When questioned, the user behind the account said that they were the real griffpatch, just creating another account for educational purposes, or whatever the justification was. They said that the actual griffpatch account hadn't announced it yet because it was still being set up. For all intents and purposes, they were absolutely trying to pretend to be griffpatch.
Even with skeptics in the comments, the user had amassed a decent following before the account was reported and promptly trashed for trying to impersonate the real griffpatch.
Now, I want to ask; what is the value of keeping this user around? Let's say instead of getting deleted, they just got a warning. I doubt it'd stop them, and this griffpatch_edu person would be free to keep pretending to be someone they're not, putting words in griff's mouth and lord knows what else, considering the account could very well be used to attach things to his name that he would not want attached to his name. With what you're suggesting, libel would totally be possible and allowed to happen.
Having an exact replica of someone else's name is something you have to intentionally try to do during the account creation process. I doubt accidental impersonation happens, and if it does, it has to be ridiculously rare. I have been here for almost a decade and have never seen it happen.
Last edited by NanoRook (April 6, 2022 17:08:28)
- k0d3rrr
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
Bump, still a good suggestion.
AI isn't being added to Scratch anytime soon. If you want to, you could also read this related essay, which was not made by me.
I also found the earliest mention of Scratch 4.0 on the forums.
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coding since [2019 v] :: #f18800 // The lowest year you can select is 2007, which was when Scratch was released.
favourite Scratch version: [3.0 v]:: #f18800
second favourite Scratch version: [1.4 v]:: #f18800
And now, some words of forum wisdom (which may or may not be controversial):
“What's the point of telling people not to post on your topic, if they are still going to post on your topic anyway?” - k0d3rrr
“If you are writing a story or creating a character roleplay for a Scratch studio, shouldn't it go in either Collaboration or Show and Tell instead of Things I'm Making and Creating?” - k0d3rrr
- UniversalStar123
- Scratcher
2 posts
Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
I agree with that, if the username is same but the PFP, About me, What I'm Working On, or even projects are different then that's not called ImpersonatingThat's not true, the only thing that can't be changed on an account is the username, and it doesn't automatically make you an impersonator if your username is similar to someone else's the only way to remove impersonation is to remove the account
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- -iviedwall-
- Scratcher
500+ posts
Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
No child for any reason should be using social media prior to age 13. Scratch is welcome for all ages (yes, even the 3-year-olds) so it;'s definitely not social media.The law made it a crime to steal someone's name, voice, photo or other information to create a false identity on social media. so…. No supportProblems with your post: I looked it up and this is what it said :
Edit: i know scratch is not socail media but close enough
- Please spell properly
- Scratch is a social media
- They aren't stealing any name, voice, photo or other stuffs like that
- Even if it is illegal it still doesn't mean they should be permanently banned
- k0d3rrr
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
I might have read this wrong, but here's why Scratch is (more or less) social media:No child for any reason should be using social media prior to age 13. Scratch is welcome for all ages (yes, even the 3-year-olds) so it;'s definitely not social media.The law made it a crime to steal someone's name, voice, photo or other information to create a false identity on social media. so…. No supportProblems with your post: I looked it up and this is what it said :
Edit: i know scratch is not socail media but close enough
- Please spell properly
- Scratch is a social media
- They aren't stealing any name, voice, photo or other stuffs like that
- Even if it is illegal it still doesn't mean they should be permanently banned
- Followers - You can follow people, and they, in turn, can follow you. (*cough cough* F4F is a controversial example.)
- Loves and favourites - You can love/favourite peoples' projects.
- Commenting - You can comment on peoples' projects, profiles, studios. Oh yeah…
- Studios - Places for collaboration and teamwork (also technically social media, see above)
- Forums - Mostly where the ‘social media’ part of Scratch comes from.
AI isn't being added to Scratch anytime soon. If you want to, you could also read this related essay, which was not made by me.
I also found the earliest mention of Scratch 4.0 on the forums.
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coding since [2019 v] :: #f18800 // The lowest year you can select is 2007, which was when Scratch was released.
favourite Scratch version: [3.0 v]:: #f18800
second favourite Scratch version: [1.4 v]:: #f18800
And now, some words of forum wisdom (which may or may not be controversial):
“What's the point of telling people not to post on your topic, if they are still going to post on your topic anyway?” - k0d3rrr
“If you are writing a story or creating a character roleplay for a Scratch studio, shouldn't it go in either Collaboration or Show and Tell instead of Things I'm Making and Creating?” - k0d3rrr
- DinoMaster20
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
(#44)You probably won't be reported, and if you are you won't be banned, for having a similar username.That's not true, the only thing that can't be changed on an account is the username, and it doesn't automatically make you an impersonator if your username is similar to someone else's the only way to remove impersonation is to remove the account
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- NanoRook
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
You guys are suggesting complex solutions to a problem that is already solved by deleting impersonator accounts.
- sharkode
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
(#54)Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.(#44)You probably won't be reported, and if you are you won't be banned, for having a similar username.That's not true, the only thing that can't be changed on an account is the username, and it doesn't automatically make you an impersonator if your username is similar to someone else's the only way to remove impersonation is to remove the account
>>>This suggestion could end reduce mass reporting.<<<
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Common forum languages (highlight this text and click shift+down arrow for more):=======================================================================================
- Support - Means someone supports a suggestion, make sure to say the reason when you are supporting a suggestion.
- No support - Means someone don't support a suggestion, while it may sound a little mean, it's actually not as not everybody have to support the suggestion you purposed.
- Bump - Bumping is a method of bringing a topic back to the front page.
- Necroposting - Means bringing an old, dead, topic that nobody cares about back to life, necroposting comes from the greek word “nekros” meaning “corpse”, necroposting is prohibited as it wastes front page space.
- Ocular - A website that allows you to search forum posts.
- Dupe/duplicate - Posts that suggests the same thing, it's a good idea to use Ocular.
- ST - Is short for Scratch Team, the moderators on this site.
- ToS - Is short for Terms of Use, a bunch of legal jargon and stuffs like that.
- TOLoRS - Is short for The Official List of Rejected Suggestions, it's always a good idea to read it before making a suggestion.
- Kaj - A user who threatened to hack Scratch, he later became a legend and people often joked about him hacking posts.
- UniversalStar123
- Scratcher
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Stop banning impersonators and give them a strike instead
Even my username is similar (nearly) to a scratcher @universtar something something, but everything else is different
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