Discuss Scratch

BrycedTea
Scratch Team
100+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

We have recently been doing some work to how we deliver thumbnail images which should, overall, greatly improve the reliability of thumbnail loading and the site in general. We moved the resizing of thumbnail images into the cloud, freeing up many resources for the rest of the site.

One consequence is that we now resize gifs, which previously were delivered in their full size rather than in the size they appear on our various pages. Resizing makes the thumbnails use less data when downloading them but has lead to some users seeing the gifs as blurry. However, the overall benefits to how we deliver the thumbnails are well worth it.

-Scratch Team
10goto10
Scratcher
500+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

I don’t want to sound ungrateful because it’s always good to get the information from a developer, but, a lot of people have been posting topics asking about this change. So, I just want to suggest that your change control process include a step to make an announcement before a widely visible change is made.



panda-wat
Scratcher
100+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

Will the GIF quality improve soon?

Posted with Microsoft BOB v1.0, outdated flash version detected
gogogogoa43
Scratcher
100+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

New Sticky? U v U! New STICK!!

this is my signature, Ctrl+Shift+Down to see the rest
sadly, spongy from bfdi squished this part. | if one more person comments “Dimentio” on my profile…

but this is still here! hey, check out my friend here
this goes to all my posts. —————————————————————————————– thanks for viewing
my post.

anyways, Scratch On!

-ElectronicArts-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

panda-wat wrote:

Will the GIF quality improve soon?
probably

Paddle2See
Scratch Team
1000+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

-ElectronicArts- wrote:

panda-wat wrote:

Will the GIF quality improve soon?
probably
It's a good idea to give a source for information that you are distributing. That way others can decide how likely it is to be accurate.

Scratch Team Member, kayak and pickleball enthusiast, cat caregiver.

This is my forum signature! On a forum post, it is okay for Scratchers to advertise in their forum signature. The signature is the stuff that shows up below the horizontal line on the post. It will show up on every post I make.
(credit to Za-Chary)



;
10goto10
Scratcher
500+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

It would be great if there was a follow up from the developers about this change event and maybe one of them could speak to these two questions.

Are there any plans to reprocess the current set of Gifs on the website to improve their image quality?

Are there any plans to improve the image processing that would allow Gifs uploaded in the future to have better quality?


han614698
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

Is cdn(2) getting removed?

<♀️ | Hannah | Middle School | Scratch Wikian | Forum Helper>

Marc92020
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

han614698 wrote:

Is cdn(2) getting removed?
is uploads getting removed? the uploads pages all lead to a 404 (except images)

highlight my siggy then press shift + down arrow to see more
Marc92020

note: before complaining at me because of my wrong statement in qas, just remember, im not always right, so instead of complaining at me that im ever so wrong, just kindly let me know what part of what i said is wrong, thanks

do you use the support convention? you dont need to! instead of saying “support” or “no support”, just give a constructive reason for your thoughts on the suggestion! saying “no support” can hurt new scratcher's or new forumer's feelings and make them upset. do you really want to make a scratcher sad? im pretty sure you dont. the support convention also does nothing to a suggestion. so please stop using the support convention!


Come to the Scratch Customs Shop!

when green flag clicked
add [Marc92020] to [List of Scratchers v]
repeat until <I leave Scratch :: operators>
show
think [Should I Scratch?]
set (answer) to [Yes]
broadcast [KEEP SCRATCHING!!! v]
end
stop [this signature v]
10goto10
Scratcher
500+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

I posted a question on the profile of the Scratch Team member who has been answering people’s questions about this change. To be respectful of his time I just asked one question. I believe that it is okay to quote is response here.

I asked “Is it a planned part of this current change event to improve the quality of the GIFS that people now see."

Codubee* wrote:

We did not anticipate some of the side effects that have been occurring, because those side effects did not show up in our testing samples. This is why the team decided that an announcement should be made to the wider community. The quality issues with some images will be addressed. However, we never handled GIFs the same way we handled PNG and JPGs. We will be resizing GIFs from now on, so some change to how they look is inevitable. However, the older way was not supportable and we cannot go back to the old way. From Dec 24→Jan 03 are our holidays, and so no changes will be happening until early in January.”
https://scratch.mit.edu/users/codubee/#comments-177529236

So the quality of GIF’s won’t be restored, but it sounds like some good news for people that had noticed a quality issue with PNG and JPG’s.





dhuls
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

han614698 wrote:

(#8)
Is cdn(2) getting removed?
for right now, probably not, since all the pages on the website actually point to cdn2, it's just that they get redirected to uploads

White_Lord
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

BrycedTea wrote:

We have recently been doing some work to how we deliver thumbnail images which should, overall, greatly improve the reliability of thumbnail loading and the site in general. We moved the resizing of thumbnail images into the cloud, freeing up many resources for the rest of the site.

One consequence is that we now resize gifs, which previously were delivered in their full size rather than in the size they appear on our various pages. Resizing makes the thumbnails use less data when downloading them but has lead to some users seeing the gifs as blurry. However, the overall benefits to how we deliver the thumbnails are well worth it.

-Scratch Team
Will the quality of the non-gif thumbnails be improved?

ꅏꃅꀤ꓄ꍟ_꒒ꂦꋪꀸ the Scratcher.

The host of six studios:

Best projects on Scratch, Art Island, Music On Scratch, White_Lord and Friends, #BringBackManagerRights and Русское сообщество скретчеров 4.0.

- Honorary member of BLS -

I'm Scratcher from Ukraine. ☕️ I like to draw, read and watch movies.
10goto10
Scratcher
500+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

White_Lord wrote:

Will the quality of the non-gif thumbnails be improved?


A different Scratch Team member said this on their profile “The quality issues with some images will be addressed.”
https://scratch.mit.edu/users/codubee/#comments-177529236

So, I guess there is hope. On the bright side, I think my experience with using the Scratch Web site has been better now (seems stable, less lag).


kriblo
Scratcher
100+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

BrycedTea wrote:

We have recently been doing some work to how we deliver thumbnail images which should, overall, greatly improve the reliability of thumbnail loading and the site in general. We moved the resizing of thumbnail images into the cloud, freeing up many resources for the rest of the site.

One consequence is that we now resize gifs, which previously were delivered in their full size rather than in the size they appear on our various pages. Resizing makes the thumbnails use less data when downloading them but has lead to some users seeing the gifs as blurry. However, the overall benefits to how we deliver the thumbnails are well worth it.

-Scratch Team
Just to let you know, it hasn't just been issues of quality. At least one gif stopped working altogether with an “Error transforming image” error message, namely the thumbnail of the Dads & Mums on Scratch studio. A new thumbnail with lesser resolution has since been uploaded, but the problem can be seen in this studio, which uses the original gif: https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/30828890/
White_Lord
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

One question. Why are animated thumbnails look normal, if they are technically gifs?

ꅏꃅꀤ꓄ꍟ_꒒ꂦꋪꀸ the Scratcher.

The host of six studios:

Best projects on Scratch, Art Island, Music On Scratch, White_Lord and Friends, #BringBackManagerRights and Русское сообщество скретчеров 4.0.

- Honorary member of BLS -

I'm Scratcher from Ukraine. ☕️ I like to draw, read and watch movies.
panda-wat
Scratcher
100+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

White_Lord wrote:

Why are animated thumbnails look normal, if they are technically gifs?

Because animated project thumbnails are uncommon and can't be made without special code, they are different from studio and user thumbnails.

Posted with Microsoft BOB v1.0, outdated flash version detected
Xancan
New to Scratch
1 post

Updates to thumbnails

The GIF quality of animated Scratch pfps is currently terrible. I exported my logo pfp at 250x250 and on Scratch, it's 30x30 pixels, 16 times less than it should. I've talked with a few other designers with GIF pfps, and this is an issue for them as well. When will this be fixed?

Fix Scratch GIF PFPs or else I die D:
Brillie2022
Scratcher
44 posts

Updates to thumbnails

BrycedTea wrote:

We have recently been doing some work to how we deliver thumbnail images which should, overall, greatly improve the reliability of thumbnail loading and the site in general. We moved the resizing of thumbnail images into the cloud, freeing up many resources for the rest of the site.

One consequence is that we now resize gifs, which previously were delivered in their full size rather than in the size they appear on our various pages. Resizing makes the thumbnails use less data when downloading them but has lead to some users seeing the gifs as blurry. However, the overall benefits to how we deliver the thumbnails are well worth it.

-Scratch Team

BrycedTea wrote:

We have recently been doing some work to how we deliver thumbnail images which should, overall, greatly improve the reliability of thumbnail loading and the site in general. We moved the resizing of thumbnail images into the cloud, freeing up many resources for the rest of the site.

One consequence is that we now resize gifs, which previously were delivered in their full size rather than in the size they appear on our various pages. Resizing makes the thumbnails use less data when downloading them but has lead to some users seeing the gifs as blurry. However, the overall benefits to how we deliver the thumbnails are well worth it.

-Scratch Team

I dont like to sound ungrateful online but i think it was just fine before but now they are sometimes blurry
-Morni-
Scratcher
100+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

panda-wat wrote:

Will the GIF quality improve soon?
hopefully no (ig)

Xancan wrote:

The GIF quality of animated Scratch pfps is currently terrible. I exported my logo pfp at 250x250 and on Scratch, it's 30x30 pixels, 16 times less than it should. I've talked with a few other designers with GIF pfps, and this is an issue for them as well. When will this be fixed?
you are correct, even my pfp looks too much pixilated, i think it will take time

Last edited by -Morni- (Feb. 9, 2022 04:14:47)


Last edited by kaj (Yesterday 11:21:05)

❀ -Morni- ❀
cloverCat156
Scratcher
100+ posts

Updates to thumbnails

Excuse me? It was worth it? Aren't all pfps have size less than 512 MB?

The Ice Mystery

The Ice Mystery is renewed to chapter 4, check it out now!

My Recent Projects

Powered by DjangoBB

Standard | Mobile