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NanoRook
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Question from a lifelong Windows user; why should I?

I've had a lot of people tell me that Linux is a great desktop experience and worth dual-booting with Windows (or just running it as your only OS entirely) but I don't see it. As a person who mainly uses their PC for gaming, I don't want to have to install Electron or WINE or any other third party program just to emulate what I can already do standalone on Windows. I also do some programming but it's mostly web stuff and therefore OS doesn't really matter in that regard.

From my perspective, it seems like Linux–even with its massive platform/distro fragmentation–seems best if you have a niche technical need that requires more freedom than what Windows or MacOS provides.

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NanoRook wrote:

Question from a lifelong Windows user; why should I?
It's not the best for everyone, windows certainly has a lot more software written for it and is supported by more platforms making it peferable for gaming.

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HacksonJackson
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NanoRook wrote:

Question from a lifelong Windows user; why should I?

I've had a lot of people tell me that Linux is a great desktop experience and worth dual-booting with Windows (or just running it as your only OS entirely) but I don't see it. As a person who mainly uses their PC for gaming, I don't want to have to install Electron or WINE or any other third party program just to emulate what I can already do standalone on Windows. I also do some programming but it's mostly web stuff and therefore OS doesn't really matter in that regard.

From my perspective, it seems like Linux–even with its massive platform/distro fragmentation–seems best if you have a niche technical need that requires more freedom than what Windows or MacOS provides.
You dont need to. If you are happy, then thats fine.

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MagicCrayon9342
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Over 55.5% or more of your steam library should already be working on Linux!!! And more every month! 75% average, you CAN game on Linux. (It gives you even more FPS than RGB)

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Tired of the mainstream browsers being so darn slow, taking so much RAM on your super old laptop. Well, Catalyst is the solution. It is a zero compromise browser that will run on anything! Available for Windows, MacOS, and Linux! It is super fast and customizable with a fresh and modern UI!!!.

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SuperSonicmario
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NanoRook wrote:

I don't want to have to install Electron or WINE or any other third party program just to emulate what I can already do standalone on Windows.
I feel the same way about Proton. It's basically supporting Linux in the “check-box” sense, such that one must install a bunch of bloated libraries.

Last edited by SuperSonicmario (Jan. 15, 2022 19:11:18)


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If this is the right place to say so… I personally love Linux Mint. It has such a nice DE and is very customizable. It's also simple, and Ubuntu-based because I have no idea how to use the terminal in Arch-based distros.

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MagicCrayon9342
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SuperSonicmario wrote:

(#565)

NanoRook wrote:

I don't want to have to install Electron or WINE or any other third party program just to emulate what I can already do standalone on Windows.
I feel the same way about Proton. It's basically supporting Linux in the “check-box” sense, such that one must install a bunch of bloated libraries.
It's so easy to just click the check box let steam install its dependencies and have the game work easy

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/676917926/

Tired of the mainstream browsers being so darn slow, taking so much RAM on your super old laptop. Well, Catalyst is the solution. It is a zero compromise browser that will run on anything! Available for Windows, MacOS, and Linux! It is super fast and customizable with a fresh and modern UI!!!.

Always use the latest version of an antivirus. To get the latest security and protection, it is also recommended to use the latest version of MacOS or one that get's security patches. Update your software or you will regret it, and you will have several risks waiting for you.

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b1048546
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Wifi drivers are the WORST.
LegoManiac04
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b1048546 wrote:

Wifi drivers are the WORST.
That's why it's so important to make sure everything works in the Live CD environment before installing

Last edited by LegoManiac04 (Jan. 16, 2022 02:48:37)


b1048546
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LegoManiac04 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

Wifi drivers are the WORST.
That's why it's so important to make sure everything works in the Live CD environment before installing
Wifi has never worked for me. I have to use a VM for it to be stable.
MagicCrayon9342
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b1048546 wrote:

LegoManiac04 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

Wifi drivers are the WORST.
That's why it's so important to make sure everything works in the Live CD environment before installing
Wifi has never worked for me. I have to use a VM for it to be stable.
I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/676917926/

Tired of the mainstream browsers being so darn slow, taking so much RAM on your super old laptop. Well, Catalyst is the solution. It is a zero compromise browser that will run on anything! Available for Windows, MacOS, and Linux! It is super fast and customizable with a fresh and modern UI!!!.

Always use the latest version of an antivirus. To get the latest security and protection, it is also recommended to use the latest version of MacOS or one that get's security patches. Update your software or you will regret it, and you will have several risks waiting for you.

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MagicCrayon9342
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But you gotta remember its an OS used by the 1%, ofc drivers won't be the best especially in the category of devices where companies mostly have proprietary drivers.

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/676917926/

Tired of the mainstream browsers being so darn slow, taking so much RAM on your super old laptop. Well, Catalyst is the solution. It is a zero compromise browser that will run on anything! Available for Windows, MacOS, and Linux! It is super fast and customizable with a fresh and modern UI!!!.

Always use the latest version of an antivirus. To get the latest security and protection, it is also recommended to use the latest version of MacOS or one that get's security patches. Update your software or you will regret it, and you will have several risks waiting for you.

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b1048546
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MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?
It's funny because that was the adapter I was working with. The drivers didn't work.
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MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

But you gotta remember its an OS used by the 1%, ofc drivers won't be the best especially in the category of devices where companies mostly have proprietary drivers.
Driver support isn't even an issue! Just buy one of those laptops with Google's Chromium rip-off installed and install whatever you want. Those devices have to have good driver support because they basically can't change anything.

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MagicCrayon9342
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b1048546 wrote:

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?
It's funny because that was the adapter I was working with. The drivers didn't work.
Intel (tm lmao) or realtek (tm lmao)

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/676917926/

Tired of the mainstream browsers being so darn slow, taking so much RAM on your super old laptop. Well, Catalyst is the solution. It is a zero compromise browser that will run on anything! Available for Windows, MacOS, and Linux! It is super fast and customizable with a fresh and modern UI!!!.

Always use the latest version of an antivirus. To get the latest security and protection, it is also recommended to use the latest version of MacOS or one that get's security patches. Update your software or you will regret it, and you will have several risks waiting for you.

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b1048546
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MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?
It's funny because that was the adapter I was working with. The drivers didn't work.
Intel (tm lmao) or realtek (tm lmao)
Realtek.
MagicCrayon9342
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b1048546 wrote:

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?
It's funny because that was the adapter I was working with. The drivers didn't work.
Intel (tm lmao) or realtek (tm lmao)
Realtek.
What distribution or kernel? I've tested Realtek in kernel 4.19 all the way to 5.15 and have never had issues with it. All distributions should have realtek working out of the box.

Last edited by MagicCrayon9342 (Jan. 16, 2022 03:59:37)


https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/676917926/

Tired of the mainstream browsers being so darn slow, taking so much RAM on your super old laptop. Well, Catalyst is the solution. It is a zero compromise browser that will run on anything! Available for Windows, MacOS, and Linux! It is super fast and customizable with a fresh and modern UI!!!.

Always use the latest version of an antivirus. To get the latest security and protection, it is also recommended to use the latest version of MacOS or one that get's security patches. Update your software or you will regret it, and you will have several risks waiting for you.

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b1048546
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MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?
It's funny because that was the adapter I was working with. The drivers didn't work.
Intel (tm lmao) or realtek (tm lmao)
Realtek.
What distribution or kernel? I've tested Realtek in kernel 4.19 all the way to 5.15 and have never had issues with it. All distributions should have realtek working out of the box.
Manjaro for distribution and nope. Arch didn't work either.

Last edited by b1048546 (Jan. 16, 2022 04:26:56)

--Velocity--
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MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?
It's funny because that was the adapter I was working with. The drivers didn't work.
Intel (tm lmao) or realtek (tm lmao)
Realtek.
What distribution or kernel? I've tested Realtek in kernel 4.19 all the way to 5.15 and have never had issues with it. All distributions should have realtek working out of the box.
My realtek network controller (RTL8821CE) wasn't supported by default in the Fedora kernel. It started working randomly, however.

Hey. I use arch btw. I also use a Fedora Silverblue system too!


b1048546
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--Velocity-- wrote:

My realtek network controller (RTL8821CE) wasn't supported by default in the Fedora kernel. It started working randomly, however.
That was the one that didn't work. It connects and disconnects a lot.

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