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MagicCrayon9342
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I highly recommend watching this video before even attempting Linux:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcdquhB6hT8

Linux Guides:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMGixkvJ-6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmeDvSgN6zY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN7mbRccT-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Fo4QVMleE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ridVTQZ5wFo

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Note: You are not a hacker just because you install a web browser



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I use macOS and I am happy with it, why should I switch to Linux? I have the flexibility of a terminal and a really good development environment (I hate windows)
I do also want to try it some day, but later when more software is supported (office) and then I will think about it.

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MagicCrayon9342
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god286 wrote:

I use macOS and I am happy with it, why should I switch to Linux? I have the flexibility of a terminal and a really good development environment (I hate windows)
I do also want to try it some day, but later when more software is supported and then I will think about it.
If you don't like Linux, why are you here?



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MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

you don't like Linux

god286 wrote:

I do also want to try it some day
It's open source (yay) and it isn't windows (yay) but I think in the future it would be better for me

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MagicCrayon9342
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I now have my Linux scripts on github. Here
Only the contents of my current ~/.scripts dir. I lose my scripts every OS reinstall/switch

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I use macOS only because the hardware and build quality of the MacBooks are really good. M1 is great performance (for me), battery life (for me), and wayy less heat generating than an Intel based mac. I don't think there are any Linux laptops that are nearly as good in terms of hardware. And software support is limited, not all apps run very well on Linux. That being said, it is an AMAZING OS and there are tons of things you can do on it. I'm sticking to macOS for now. I have used terminal based Linux quite a lot - it's really fun and stuff … but I haven't used a Linux GUI yet. Also Darwin and Linux >>> NT.

god286 wrote:

a really good development environment (I hate windows)
Same. Windows isn't very good for a person like me who likes doing stuff with programming languages. macOS is just a whole lot better, ships with built in Python2, Ruby, Bash, Zsh, and sh. Linux also does that - but again, hardware support is why I don't use it a lot. For software devs or any person doing anything that's related to software, professional, or as a hobby, or while in college or school, Linux and macOS are better than Windows. Linux does have a few advantages over macOS, it's free, open source, and isn't made by a money hungry company (like Apple or Google or Microsoft).

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Chiroyce wrote:

Same. Windows isn't very good for a person like me who likes doing stuff with programming languages. macOS is just a whole lot better, ships with built in Python2, Ruby, Bash, Zsh, and sh. Linux also does that - but again, hardware support is why I don't use it a lot. For software devs or any person doing anything that's related to software, professional, or as a hobby, or while in college or school, Linux and macOS are better than Windows. Linux does have a few advantages over macOS, it's free, open source, and isn't made by a money hungry company (like Apple or Google or Microsoft).
lol, I remember one time when I had a Lenovo Ideapad 320 and it was SO SLOW and it took me so long to get Node working.
But let's not get too off topic now.. I think there might actually be a Unix topic instead because they have so many similarities (but not equal)
And who wants to use Python2? That's there for legacy purposes; as soon as you go and get Python3 it will just be there to haunt you when you try to copy-paste a command that has python instead of python3 and you never notice

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god286 wrote:

And who wants to use Python2? That's there for legacy purposes; as soon as you go and get Python3 it will just be there to haunt you when you try to copy-paste a command that has python instead of python3 and you never notice
You can change your environment variables to use /usr/bin/python3 instead of /usr/bin/python.

ok now enough offtopic - https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/557432/

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The best Linux distros are in my opinion ones without systemd, like Devuan. (systemd is an init program – meaning it's constantly present – used by most or all mainstream Linux distros, but many think it's bloated and does too much.)

I really like the MATE desktop environment and GNU Emacs, the text editor.

god286 wrote:

I use macOS and I am happy with it, why should I switch to Linux? I have the flexibility of a terminal and a really good development environment (I hate windows)
I do also want to try it some day, but later when more software is supported (office) and then I will think about it.
GNU/Linux has lots of advantages over Windows. I don't think it really have many advantages over macOS, except that it's FOSS and gratis, and a Mac costs a trillion dollars.

Maybe it could be more secure because it's open source? Or maybe it could be more efficient than macOS, because it isn't based on a basically monolithized version of the Mach kernel, and doesn't have all those Objective-C frameworks, services, and programs? (Just speculating; somebody could confirm by actually comparing them.)

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Here's a nice advertisement (made by a member of the Linux community) for Linux: https://youtu.be/g_X3EmbcomE
(sudo also works on Mac, but not Windows)

Jonathan50 wrote:

I don't think it really have many advantages over macOS, except that it's FOSS and gratis.
Yeah - it's personal preference … macOS is better for some while Linux is better for others.

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MagicCrayon9342
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Chiroyce wrote:

Here's a nice advertisement (made by a member of the Linux community) for Linux: https://youtu.be/g_X3EmbcomE
(sudo also works on Mac, but not Windows)

Jonathan50 wrote:

I don't think it really have many advantages over macOS, except that it's FOSS and gratis.
Yeah - it's personal preference … macOS is better for some while Linux is better for others.
If you do not like Linux, or don't want to talk about it. Please go to the correct topic of such OS you like and use. Please don't get this topic closed and have it end up like the Windows 11 topic that got closed, then reopened. I don't want my topic closed at all.



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This is a ‘Linux’ topic, going off topic is stupid. Quit!



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Copied from a YouTube comment

- Hey mum, can I please play some Nintendo? I finished all my homework
- No son, it's too late
- sigh… hey mum, can I sudo play some Nintendo?
- Sure, you don't even have to ask!

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

If you do not like Linux
They don't deserve to be in this topic - I'm here because Linux is epic.

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Chiroyce wrote:

Copied from a YouTube comment

- Hey mum, can I please play some Nintendo? I finished all my homework
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- sigh… hey mum, can I sudo play some Nintendo?
- Sure, you don't even have to ask!

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

If you do not like Linux
They don't deserve to be in this topic - I'm here because Linux is epic.
Although I do end up copying macOS UI in Linux anyway

I can't get the top bar menu though, there aren't any GNOME extensions that work with my GNOME version (41.1)



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bar at the top with everything I need, and dock at the side. my favorite layout



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Become the 1%, get rid of those bloated spyware-full Operating Systems. (Mac and Windows)



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Join the 1%, INSTALL LINUX

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MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

Join the 1%, INSTALL LINUX

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