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Let's discuss the phonetics first, any ideas? (Please quote this post before replying)

onegoha wrote:

Let's discuss the phonetics first, any ideas? (Please quote this post before replying)

We should keep it easily typable, as that's what it's going to be used for the most.
So… just the latin alphabet?

onegoha wrote:

Let's discuss the phonetics first, any ideas? (Please quote this post before replying)

I think the common five vowels would be essential aieou, but maybe e could be dropped out?

mybearworld wrote:

onegoha wrote:

Let's discuss the phonetics first, any ideas? (Please quote this post before replying)

We should keep it easily typable, as that's what it's going to be used for the most.
So… just the latin alphabet?

Yes but we need to discuss in terms of what each alphabet represent. I think c, q, j, x and r should definitely be changed to something else.

onegoha wrote:

I think the common five vowels would be essential aieou, but maybe e could be dropped out?

E is the most common english vowel, but removing it might give the language an unique look.
So… how should they be pronounced?
Just a simple /a/,/i/,/o/,/u/ or /a/,/ɪ/,/ɔ/,/ʊ/? Or even something entirely different?

onegoha wrote:

Yes but we need to discuss in terms of what each alphabet represent. I think c, q, j, x and r should definitely be changed to something else.

c maybe could represent /ts/ or /t̠ʃ/?
q is hard. Maybe just not include it?
j might be /j/ or /ʒ/
x could be /x/, /ç/ or /ʃ/
r could be /r/ or /ʀ/
(of course we could do something entirely different!)

onegoha wrote:

onegoha wrote:

Let's discuss the phonetics first, any ideas? (Please quote this post before replying)

I think the common five vowels would be essential aieou, but maybe e could be dropped out?

I've decided these vowels are definitely gonna be added. I dropped “o” because it's quite close to “u” and it would be confusing to have them both.
So currently i have ɑ, ɛ, u, i

onegoha wrote:

I've decided these vowels are definitely gonna be added. I dropped “o” because it's quite close to “u” and it would be confusing to have them both.

Remember that this is a collaboration!

Umm I've got to go now, in the mean time you might want to plan out the phonetics? I'll be back in like… 2 hours? Bye!

Can we please do the phonology BEFORE the romanization system so we don't look like a bunch fantasy authors who have never heard of the word “phoneme” in their entire life?

Not to mention the language's goals?

Konserverad_gran wrote:

Can we please do the phonology BEFORE the romanization system so we don't look like a bunch fantasy authors who have never heard of the word “phoneme” in their entire life?

Not to mention the language's goals?

It started on the romanization because this would be mainly typed with.
But I do agree that we do need to know the language's goals before starting on working on the language

mybearworld wrote:

It started on the romanization because this would probably be mainly typed with.

Oh, wait, that actually makes a whole lot of sense. Typing is the primary medium! I didn't think of that.

Konserverad_gran wrote:

Oh, wait, that actually makes a whole lot of sense. Typing is the primary medium!

…and this is kind of the language's goal as well? A language for this scratch studio

So, we're going to want to use the latin alphabet. Maybe
a c d e f g h i j k l m p r s t u v x
a t̠ʃ d ɛ f g h i j k l m p r s t u v ʃ
Maybe that's a little too basic though.

Hi I'm back for a bit then I will be gone again. I really want to add in the idea of noun tenses, I know it's a bit ealrly for that. In terms of phomenes (is that right?) I think it might be a good idea to not use the same as word-based languages, but instead perhaps a fixed number of syllables in a fixed order put together to convey a meaning, so sort of like if it was “linguistics” it would be… let's say three syllables for each element, being “language-property-studies” perhaps (Just to clarify I'm not the best at conlanging so I might have misunderstood what you wanted to say)?

Here are my thoughts on some goals one might include:

- Ease of typability and legibility
- Well fit to the online environment in other ways (perhaps encoding grammatically some things that natural languages do more readily with body language and intonation)
- Compactness to make the most out of your 500 characters (note that this will compete with typability and legibility, let alone memorization of vocabulary…)
- Well fit to discuss conlanging in particular
- Reasonably easy to learn (maybe not a top priority? I don't know.)
- Not being a relex

Konserverad_gran wrote:

- Compactness to make the most out of your 500 characters (note that this will compete with typability and legibility, let alone memorization of vocabulary…)

Hmm… this will also compete with “well fit to the online environment in other ways (perhaps encoding grammatically some things that natural languages do more readily with body language and intonation)”. We'll have to get creative with word order and affixes.

mybearworld wrote:

Konserverad_gran wrote:

- Compactness to make the most out of your 500 characters (note that this will compete with typability and legibility, let alone memorization of vocabulary…)

Hmm… this will also compete with “well fit to the online environment in other ways (perhaps encoding grammatically some things that natural languages do more readily with body language and intonation)”. We'll have to get creative with word order and affixes.

Alternatively, we could eliminate some goals, and/or rank the ones we do decide to have, so we know what to prioritize.

mybearworld wrote:

Konserverad_gran wrote:

- Compactness to make the most out of your 500 characters (note that this will compete with typability and legibility, let alone memorization of vocabulary…)

Hmm… this will also compete with “well fit to the online environment in other ways (perhaps encoding grammatically some things that natural languages do more readily with body language and intonation)”. We'll have to get creative with word order and affixes.

But by the way, not necessarily. If the English 14-character phrase “*does facepalm” were to be translated with a short grammatical particle like “ta” or whatever, that would be pretty compact in my opinion.

SVO one moment (disables azerty keyboard) in most cases but in an answer its switched to VSO?

English:
Are you old?
You are old
Whatever this is:
Are you old?
Old you are.
This will make the language slightly more inique in my opinion. I also think that tenses should be defined via suffixes on verbs

These are just suggestions.