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VeryFamus
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Add a “stretch” effect

NOTE: before going off and saying “oh this can be done in costumes so this is bad” know that the costume version is choppy and time-consuming and causes lag. And besides a lot of blocks can be done in costumes as well, like every effect, size, show, hide. I had to add this warning because people kept on saying “this can be done with costumes so no support”

And another NOTE: please don’t take into account that this used to exist. If it was removed, then it would be beneficial to have it back.

So, this stretch effect could have two variants: side-stretch and wide-stretch.

Side-stretch:
Squishes a sprite model inward. It moves the left and right inward and the top and bottom stretch outward giving the sprite a “stretch” effect

Wide-stretch:
Squishes a model inward. It moves the top and bottom inward And the left and right outward giving the sprite a “stretch” effect

Wide stretch would be the positive value of the effect, as it does stretch outward, and side stretch would be the negative value, as it stretches inward. The outward/inward terms are based on the left/right sides of the sprite.

Revamped OP

So, this suggestion is to add a “stretch” effect into the effects palette. Stretch is when two sides are stretched outward and the sprite gets elongated in appearance and shape. When I mentioned “Side-stretch” and “Wide-stretch” I meant over and below 0 on the stretch. 0 Would be default stretch, and if it went above 0, the left and right sides would stretch outward, while the upper and lower sides would be squished to the center, while below 0 would be the opposite, the left-right sides stretching inward and the upper-lower sides stretching outward. Seems pretty straightforward, eh? This is not the historic stretch, though it has almost the same effect. Stretch was it’s own value with it’s own reporter, and wasn’t an effect, with 100 being default rather than 0.

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Reply with add-ons to this that could be useful, or what you think of this suggestion! Please alert me if there is a duplicate!

What the blocks would look like:
change [stretch v] effect by (25)
set [stretch v] effect to (0)

Last edited by VeryFamus (Jan. 30, 2022 21:01:30)


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dogeiscut
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Add a “stretch” effect

+Support!
However, couldn't this be simpler?
I suggest these blocks instead:
set stretch to () % :: looks

change stretch by () :: looks

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VeryFamus
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dogeiscut wrote:

+Support!
However, couldn't this be simpler?
I suggest these blocks instead:
set stretch to () % :: looks

change stretch by () :: looks

I see how that could be good. A negative value could stretch it inward left/right, and a positive value could stretch it inward up/down.
set [Stretch] effect to (-20)              
change [Stretch] effect by (25)
next backdrop
The first block would render it negative, then the second would render it positive.
Good Idea!

Last edited by VeryFamus (Oct. 16, 2021 14:10:52)


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set [stretch v] effect to ()

change [stretch v] effect by ()

([stretch v] effect ::looks)

set [shrink v] effect to () //inverse of stretch

change [shrink v] effect by ()

([shrink v] effect ::looks)

Last edited by modesties (Oct. 16, 2021 22:12:17)


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No support, you can do this with costumes.

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TurtleLegos wrote:

No support, you can do this with costumes.
which is overly complex.


VeryFamus
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TurtleLegos wrote:

No support, you can do this with costumes.

Yes, but the variables would simplify it, and give smoother conversion, as some people don’t want to make 100 or more costumes for each stretch.

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VeryFamus wrote:

TurtleLegos wrote:

No support, you can do this with costumes.

Yes, but the variables would simplify it, and give smoother conversion, as some people don’t want to make 100 or more costumes for each stretch.
I would have agreed with the non-supporter, but i do think that smoother conversion is better.

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Support, because stretch is just as valuable as fisheye and whirl

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dhuls wrote:

TurtleLegos wrote:

No support, you can do this with costumes.
which is overly complex.
And you can change the size of a sprite with costumes, your point?

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why do you call non support “hate”? no support btw

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IntelArt wrote:

why do you call non support “hate”?
because, in simple words, if you don't support something it's often associated with disliking/hating said thing. sometimes, when people say “no support”, they're basically saying they hate it but with the words in pretty packaging.
anyways i do support this because doing it with costumes is tedious and very time consuming, and it's frustrating when you don't get the wanted effect. it would be much easier with blocks because of smoother and more consistent conversion

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dogeiscut wrote:

dhuls wrote:

TurtleLegos wrote:

No support, you can do this with costumes.
which is overly complex.
And you can change the size of a sprite with costumes, your point?
Using too many costumes can cause a project to get laggier and less organized- besides, controlling the stretch with a variable would make the animations much smoother anyways.
No-Sider
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Isnt there like alot of dupes for this? I cant find the oldest one, but searching on ocular shows alot of results for people suggesting the stretch block:

https://ocular.jeffalo.net/search?q=stretch&sort=relevance

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No-Sider wrote:

Isnt there like alot of dupes for this? I cant find the oldest one, but searching on ocular shows alot of results for people suggesting the stretch block:

https://ocular.jeffalo.net/search?q=stretch&sort=relevance

So, the one shown is a very different thing, he is talking about Stretch being a specific category with it’s won events, but I am talking about it being another effect in the effect palette.

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modesties wrote:

set [stretch v] effect to ()

change [stretch v] effect by ()

([stretch v] effect ::looks)

set [shrink v] effect to () //inverse of stretch

change [shrink v] effect by ()

([shrink v] effect ::looks)
How about negative numbers? There's no reason for a shrink effect…

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han614698 wrote:

modesties wrote:

set [stretch v] effect to ()

change [stretch v] effect by ()

([stretch v] effect ::looks)

set [shrink v] effect to () //inverse of stretch

change [shrink v] effect by ()

([shrink v] effect ::looks)
How about negative numbers? There's no reason for a shrink effect…
same logic for next costume/backdrop with + 1.

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Last edited by VeryFamus (Oct. 24, 2021 15:34:23)


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