change list block

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instead of

(length of [ v] :: list)

It should be

(number of [ v] in list :: list)

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Why? length of [list] is fine.

Last edited by Reev0102 (Sept. 27, 2021 15:57:56)

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I don't get what you mean by (number of [ v] in list) - what does ‘number’ refer to here and how would it know which list? Do you mean this:

(number of rows in [list v] :: list)

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If you mean rewording this block, I wouldn’t mind this. It does make the block a little more clearer, which is good, especially since lists are quite complex to new users

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This would help clarify things for new users.

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Quantum-Cat wrote:
I don't get what you mean by (number of [ v] in list) - what does ‘number’ refer to here and how would it know which list? Do you mean this:
(number of rows in [list v] :: list)

i think it could be:

(number of [rows v] in [list v] ::list)
(number of [strings v] in [list v] ::list)
(number of [integers v] in [list v] ::list)
(number of [decimals v] in [list v] ::list)
(number of [floats v] in [list v] ::list)
(number of [naturals v] in [list v] ::list)

etc

dertermenter wrote:
Quantum-Cat wrote:
I don't get what you mean by (number of [ v] in list) - what does ‘number’ refer to here and how would it know which list? Do you mean this:
(number of rows in [list v] :: list)
That is better worded, or maybe it could be “items” instead of “row”.

k then:

(number of [nums v] of [list v] ::list)

oh and btw the number of numbers would be like:
if the list had
this:
3
4
thing
item
then it would return 2
if it had this:
thing
item
fruit
carrots
then it would return 0

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Quantum-Cat wrote:
I don't get what you mean by (number of [ v] in list) - what does ‘number’ refer to here and how would it know which list? Do you mean this:
(number of rows in [list v] :: list)

That is better worded, or maybe it could be “items” instead of “row”.

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medians wrote:
Quantum-Cat wrote:
I don't get what you mean by (number of [ v] in list) - what does ‘number’ refer to here and how would it know which list? Do you mean this:
(number of rows in [list v] :: list)
i think it could be:
(number of [rows v] in [list v] ::list)
(number of [strings v] in [list v] ::list)
(number of [integers v] in [list v] ::list)
(number of [decimals v] in [list v] ::list)
(number of [floats v] in [list v] ::list)
(number of [naturals v] in [list v] ::list)
etc
dertermenter wrote:
Quantum-Cat wrote:
I don't get what you mean by (number of [ v] in list) - what does ‘number’ refer to here and how would it know which list? Do you mean this:
(number of rows in [list v] :: list)
That is better worded, or maybe it could be “items” instead of “row”.
k then:
(number of [nums v] of [list v] ::list)
oh and btw the number of numbers would be like:
if the list had
this:
3
4
thing
item
then it would return 2
if it had this:
thing
item
fruit
carrots
then it would return 0

Thing is – we don't even have type detection for variables at all… Adding these blocks specifically for lists would just be plain inconsistent.

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FYI medians -

I’m fairly advanced at math and I don’t know what the heck “floats” are.

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han614698 wrote:
I’m fairly advanced at math and I don’t know what the heck “floats” are.

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han614698 wrote:
FYI medians -

I’m fairly advanced at math and I don’t know what the heck “floats” are.

Basically a type of number variable that stores decimals. They can also be considered to just be rational numbers.

I do support changing the name- when I first started scratch, it took a while before I got these blocks straight:

(length of (list :: list))
(length of [list v])
(length of [])

I thought “number of rows” or “number of items” sounded the best.

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bluedragon8633 wrote:
I do support changing the name- when I first started scratch, it took a while before I got these blocks straight:
(length of (list :: list))
(length of [list v])
(length of [])
I thought “number of rows” or “number of items” sounded the best.

I made a suggestion doing exact same thing (in bold): https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/495203/

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1492864 wrote:
I made a suggestion doing exact same thing (in bold): https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/495203/

Got it, reporting this thread to be closed.

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bluedragon8633 wrote:
han614698 wrote:
FYI medians -

I’m fairly advanced at math and I don’t know what the heck “floats” are.
Basically a type of number variable that stores decimals. They can also be considered to just be rational numbers.

I do support changing the name- when I first started scratch, it took a while before I got these blocks straight:

Ah-
We learn them as rational numbers.

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1492864 wrote:
bluedragon8633 wrote:
I do support changing the name- when I first started scratch, it took a while before I got these blocks straight:
(length of (list :: list))
(length of [list v])
(length of [])
I thought “number of rows” or “number of items” sounded the best.
I made a suggestion doing exact same thing (in bold): https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/495203/

Thanks for the link! It does look like this is a duplicate topic so I'll close it to keep the conversation all in one place.

Please use the existing topic in the link above.

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