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scratcherman507
Scratcher
63 posts

unknown scratch pages

You can see the admin panel but only a bit but it doesn't work but I'm not telling anyone the link
Jeffalo
Scratcher
1000+ posts

unknown scratch pages

BigNate469 wrote:

ChameleonGamerYT wrote:

BigNate469 wrote:

(#898)
One of the only reasons that the community knows that it exists at all is scratch.mit.edu/vpn_required , and sites like scratch.pizza that are owned by the ST and used to redirect to the main page, but now say that Markley VPN is required (with some hissing).
I wonder why it hisses at you for not using Markley
That would be a question for @codubee*.
scratch.pizza is used for something for the scratch team only. to help ensure the access is locked down, it requires the VPN which acts as gateway to only let in authorized people
BigNate469
Scratcher
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unknown scratch pages

Jeffalo wrote:

BigNate469 wrote:

ChameleonGamerYT wrote:

BigNate469 wrote:

(#898)
One of the only reasons that the community knows that it exists at all is scratch.mit.edu/vpn_required , and sites like scratch.pizza that are owned by the ST and used to redirect to the main page, but now say that Markley VPN is required (with some hissing).
I wonder why it hisses at you for not using Markley
That would be a question for @codubee*.
scratch.pizza is used for something for the scratch team only. to help ensure the access is locked down, it requires the VPN which acts as gateway to only let in authorized people
Yeah but before scratch.org was changed to what it is now, for non-st people it would just redirect to the front page.

This behavior is also present in other domains that used to redirect to the front page, such as scratch.love.
W1THRD
Scratcher
71 posts

unknown scratch pages

Redstone1080 wrote:

AGScratcherBest-2 wrote:

Vpn required page: https://scratch.mit.edu/vpn_required/
Technically not on Scratch, but: https://scratchfoundation.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IBE/pages/46465303/VPN+to+Markley

I already found that one.

scratcherman507 wrote:

Will you plzzZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz add this one I found its scratch.mit.edu/news
Why do people keep on talking about this one
8to16
Scratcher
1000+ posts

unknown scratch pages

https://scratch.mit.edu/fly
It redirects to the make it fly tutorial, and is linked on the make it fly studio.
RobotChickens
Scratcher
500+ posts

unknown scratch pages

BigNate469 wrote:

(#897)

2016s4m29 wrote:

BigNate469 wrote:

2016s4m29 wrote:

Redstone1080 wrote:

Technically not on Scratch, but: https://scratchfoundation.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IBE/pages/46465303/VPN+to+Markley
What Is This?
I'm guessing something related to the VPN that ST members are required to use, considering
Is It A Mod Panel Or Something?
A VPN is software used to hide your IP, usually by sending your request through several different servers (and making it appear as if those servers sent the request themselves).

All ST members are required to use one, specifically Markley, which the devs seem to be going to lengths to keep what it really is and how it works secret. One of the only reasons that the community knows that it exists at all is scratch.mit.edu/vpn_required , and sites like scratch.pizza that are owned by the ST and used to redirect to the main page, but now say that Markley VPN is required (with some hissing).
VPNs can be used to hide IP addresses, but for a use-case like this, a VPN can be used to “remote in” to another more secure network. What I think is happening is that the ST has locked stuff down so that only one network can access the admin tools. This is most likely the Scratch headquarters network. That means that Scratch moderators can't do anything moderation-related unless they're 1: Using a computer AT headquarters on the secure network. OR 2: Using a personal computer at home to “remote in” using a connection to a VPN server that's inside the HQ secure network. This kind of model isn't uncommon and businesses use it all the time for employees working from home!
(I learned all about this in my computer nerd certification last year)

Edit: If this post is removed, so be it. But let its censorship be a testament to the truth.

Last edited by RobotChickens (Sept. 17, 2024 22:49:56)

BigNate469
Scratcher
1000+ posts

unknown scratch pages

RobotChickens wrote:

VPNs can be used to hide IP addresses, but for a use-case like this, a VPN can be used to “remote in” to another more secure network. What I think is happening is that the ST has locked stuff down so that only one network can access the admin tools. This is most likely the Scratch headquarters network. That means that Scratch moderators can't do anything moderation-related unless they're 1: Using a computer AT headquarters on the secure network. OR 2: Using a personal computer at home to “remote in” using a connection to a VPN server that's inside the HQ secure network. This kind of model isn't uncommon and businesses use it all the time for employees working from home!
(I learned all about this in my computer nerd certification last year)

Edit: If this post is removed, so be it. But let its censorship be a testament to the truth.
Yeah, I figured. The side effect is that it also does hide ST members IPs (assuming that they're using their ST accounts and not ordinary Scratcher alts), which would go a long way to hide their actual location- and therefore anyone who might be a security threat against them.

Of course that assumes someone gets into Scratch's system and gets their IP addresses, but that's not impossible.

of course none of that would matter back in the 1.x days when your profile page showed not only the country you were in, but also your region and town/city, assuming you didn't live in a city with a population of over about a million

Last edited by BigNate469 (Sept. 18, 2024 00:12:05)

BigNate469
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unknown scratch pages

cdn.assets.scratch.mit.edu - found it by accident, the Wayback Machine confirms its existence.
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DifferentDance8
Scratcher
1000+ posts

unknown scratch pages

Apparantly Scratch at one point had a officially-developed browser extension that to this very day is still allowed to be mentioned, alongside other popular extensions like uBlock Origin and Grammarly (IDK about the former, but the latter has been proven by an ST member). It's not useful now because it relies on Scratch 2.0 to work but still, ironic given the ST's stance on most browser extensions nowadays.
W1THRD
Scratcher
71 posts

unknown scratch pages

DifferentDance8 wrote:

Apparantly Scratch at one point had a officially-developed browser extension that to this very day is still allowed to be mentioned, alongside other popular extensions like uBlock Origin and Grammarly (IDK about the former, but the latter has been proven by an ST member). It's not useful now because it relies on Scratch 2.0 to work but still, ironic given the ST's stance on most browser extensions nowadays.
Oh, that's interesting. But this isn't an extension, this is a plugin. Plugins and extensions are different things.
Anyways, I wonder if there's any cool hacks to be done by manipulating the extension…..
Maximouse
Scratcher
1000+ posts

unknown scratch pages

W1THRD wrote:

DifferentDance8 wrote:

Apparantly Scratch at one point had a officially-developed browser extension that to this very day is still allowed to be mentioned, alongside other popular extensions like uBlock Origin and Grammarly (IDK about the former, but the latter has been proven by an ST member). It's not useful now because it relies on Scratch 2.0 to work but still, ironic given the ST's stance on most browser extensions nowadays.
Oh, that's interesting. But this isn't an extension, this is a plugin. Plugins and extensions are different things.
Anyways, I wonder if there's any cool hacks to be done by manipulating the extension…..
The “plugin helper” linked on that page is an extension.
W1THRD
Scratcher
71 posts

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Maximouse wrote:

W1THRD wrote:

DifferentDance8 wrote:

Apparantly Scratch at one point had a officially-developed browser extension that to this very day is still allowed to be mentioned, alongside other popular extensions like uBlock Origin and Grammarly (IDK about the former, but the latter has been proven by an ST member). It's not useful now because it relies on Scratch 2.0 to work but still, ironic given the ST's stance on most browser extensions nowadays.
Oh, that's interesting. But this isn't an extension, this is a plugin. Plugins and extensions are different things.
Anyways, I wonder if there's any cool hacks to be done by manipulating the extension…..
The “plugin helper” linked on that page is an extension.
Oh, I was talking about the plugin. It downloads .dmg files for Mac and .MSI files for windows.
I didn't realize there was a plugin helper also.

The reviews for the extension are funny…
“it dose not work for cromebook”
“When i tryed to use it it did not work”
“i didn’t even like it”
“Did Not Work On 3.0” (it's not made for 3.0)
“not work”
EverSwirl
Scratcher
100+ posts

unknown scratch pages

Not sure if this belongs here but https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/104/embed is basically unknown. You can use any project ID, too.
BigNate469
Scratcher
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unknown scratch pages

EverSwirl wrote:

Not sure if this belongs here but https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/104/embed is basically unknown. You can use any project ID, too.
There's a button on every project page called “Copy Link” that leads to a menu with a link to the project page, and the code to embed the project in an <iframe> element.

The /embed/ URL is what's used in the <iframe>

This is also used within the Scratch website itself, at https://scratch.mit.edu/429
EverSwirl
Scratcher
100+ posts

unknown scratch pages

BigNate469 wrote:

EverSwirl wrote:

Not sure if this belongs here but https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/104/embed is basically unknown. You can use any project ID, too.
There's a button on every project page called “Copy Link” that leads to a menu with a link to the project page, and the code to embed the project in an <iframe> element.

The /embed/ URL is what's used in the <iframe>

This is also used within the Scratch website itself, at https://scratch.mit.edu/429
ah. noted.
DifferentDance8
Scratcher
1000+ posts

unknown scratch pages

W1THRD wrote:

https://scratch.mit.edu/info redirects to https://scratch.mit.edu/ideas for some reason.

Also, I found these URLs in the splash.bundle.js file:
https://sip.scratch.mit.edu/%20scratch-celebration/

https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/689659/
https://fast.wistia.net/embed/iframe/
The second splash.bundle.js link shouldn't count as it was definitely well known at the time, and the third one doesn't have anything to do with Scratch to my knowledge
SpyCoderX
Scratcher
1000+ posts

unknown scratch pages

So, each scratcher has viewed this page at least once (meaning its not truly unknown), but usually never sees it again (meaning after some time they forget about it):

https://scratch.mit.edu/become-a-scratcher

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