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DarthVader4Life
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1000+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

hello_smile wrote:

dhuls wrote:

hello_smile wrote:

Stop lying, LLK. Each reply or post puts equal load on the server.
How would you know they're lying. You don't have back-end access, do you?
Might as well, scratch-www is open-source and the API loads all replies at once for each comment. In fact, new posts would create more load than replies.
This isn't true, as you don't have multiple comments within one group.

Let's say you had to write 25 letters, and then 50 letters. It would take you longer to write the 50 letters than the 25 letters. This is the same for the server as well. It takes it a shorter amount of time to load the comment with 25 replies than it would to load the comment with 50 replies. Additionally, it would take even less time for the server to load the comment that had no replies, as it has no extra data to sift through.

Last edited by DarthVader4Life (Aug. 15, 2021 21:35:41)

-0Nebula0-
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1000+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

bump
-lunarmoth-
Scratcher
86 posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

An0therRand0mC0der wrote:

No support. Removing the 25 reply limit would cause lag. Plus, Scratch is for programming, not roleplaying. Roleplaying defeats the whole purpose of Scratch being a coding language.
Support for adding back manager rights though.
Some people have no other place to roleplay though
Quantum-Cat
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

ElenaKaren wrote:

An0therRand0mC0der wrote:

No support. Removing the 25 reply limit would cause lag. Plus, Scratch is for programming, not roleplaying. Roleplaying defeats the whole purpose of Scratch being a coding language.
Support for adding back manager rights though.
Some people have no other place to roleplay though
What about projects… profiles… These have no limits.
CyrusTheNiceGuy
Scratcher
100+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

Dragon_Egg_Fish wrote:

Please remove the limits.
ST you are killing RPs, AEs and Manager Goals.

I support this, but not in the way you're thinking. I consider AEs and Managers Goals to be a form of spam, and RP studios can be moved elsewhere.

However, ST does need to implement some sort of loosening on restrictions, because these can affect real posts and studios.
dave-alt-4
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1000+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

support but … what about the servers
mumu245
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1000+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

dave-alt-4 wrote:

support but … what about the servers
They were fine before.
pixel120
Scratcher
57 posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

mumu245 wrote:

dave-alt-4 wrote:

support but … what about the servers
They were fine before.
Yep
OhOkSir12345
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

No support, i suffer to autism and Teh studios suddenly changing back or the permissions back to normal withour warning, it can hurt a lot for me. Ive gotten used to the only owner can edit studios, but zoomed out studios could help
NanoRook
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1000+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

pixel120 wrote:

mumu245 wrote:

dave-alt-4 wrote:

support but … what about the servers
They were fine before.
Yep

These changes were made in order to prevent said server issues in the first place. As cheddargirl said in a similar thread, these changes were introduced specifically because how studios were set up before was unsustainable. They were not fine.

Anyways, can we seriously stop with these “please do the impossible because I am personally inconvenienced” threads? Every time they get made you have people crawling out of the woodwork who haven't read prior discussion on the new studios or ignore the monumental amount of work it takes to maintain a website of this size and complexity.

As a former RPer, I genuinely get how painful the reply limit is, but work around it. Projects still have unlimited reply limits (for now).
1Oaktree2
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no support. Don't you realise that role plays batter the website and cause lag? And add everythings. Without limitations, the website wouldnt be able to carry your infinite, futile studio replies including
  • let's roleplay here now
  • *kills your character* hehe
  • my character loves your character
  • *runs away*
Which aren't beneficial for anything other than the entertainment of some roleplayers.
Then, we have add everything, or everyone. The only way people benefit is finding new projects and profiles. With limits, people can't get spammed, and there is less lag.

TheSmartGuy1234
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

rejected i think

ANYWAY No support. Removing the 25 reply limit would cause lag. Plus, Scratch is for programming, not roleplaying. Roleplaying defeats the whole purpose of Scratch being a coding language.
Support for adding back manager rights though. (optionally)
TheSmartGuy1234
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

IF you want zoomed out studios (not on mobile) HOLD THAT CTRL BUTTON AND SCROLL DOWN!
NanoRook
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1000+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

1Oaktree2 wrote:

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no support. Don't you realise that role plays batter the website and cause lag? And add everythings. Without limitations, the website wouldnt be able to carry your infinite, futile studio replies including
  • let's roleplay here now
  • *kills your character* hehe
  • my character loves your character
  • *runs away*
Which aren't beneficial for anything other than the entertainment of some roleplayers.
Then, we have add everything, or everyone. The only way people benefit is finding new projects and profiles. With limits, people can't get spammed, and there is less lag.


A huge part of Scratch is user self-expression. That's why projects with no code aren't banned, and studios can be created for topics outside of programming or art. There is no need to mock roleplayers for wanting to self-express.

I do agree with Add Everything, though–it's a gigantic relief to not have five different " has invited you to ADD EVERYTHING" notifications every day.

Also, I have no idea how this topic still exists when it is technically rejected:
5.5 Increase the studio reply limit
The reply limit of 25 replies in studios was implemented to keep studio conversations open to the community and to improve website performance. Load times and server stresses tend to increase with larger reply limits, particularly due to the large number of Scratch users on the website. The number 25 was chosen as a practical one to mitigate these issues while also encouraging open conversation in studios.

Last edited by NanoRook (Nov. 10, 2021 20:17:28)

1Oaktree2
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

NanoRook wrote:

A huge part of Scratch is user self-expression. That's why projects with no code aren't banned, and studios can be created for topics outside of programming or art. There is no need to mock roleplayers for wanting to self-express.
I am not “mocking” roleplayers. I am saying that when there are hundreds of roleplay replies, it can make the servers bumpy and they aren't the most constructive type of replies.
dave-alt-4
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1000+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

mumu245 wrote:

dave-alt-4 wrote:

support but … what about the servers
They were fine before.

before the pandemic?
warriorcats2155
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500+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

An0therRand0mC0der wrote:

No support. Removing the 25 reply limit would cause lag. Plus, Scratch is for programming, not roleplaying. Roleplaying defeats the whole purpose of Scratch being a coding language.
Support for adding back manager rights though.
Scratch is also a social site.

the excuse that it's just a coding website isn't a real excuse to not support, Scratch is more than a social site.
warriorcats2155
Scratcher
500+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

A workaround for the studio reply limit is to share a new project that's purpose is to allow comments to have more than 25 replies.
warriorcats2155
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500+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

Also the workaround of creating a roleplay project would be allowed since:

NanoRook wrote:

A huge part of Scratch is user self-expression. That's why projects with no code aren't banned.
warriorcats2155
Scratcher
500+ posts

Keep The 3.0 Studio design but remove the limits

CyrusTheNiceGuy wrote:

and RP studios can be moved elsewhere.
I'm sorry, but where…. Where…?

Some scratchers don't have a single other account outside of scratch, not even on roblox or on other sites.


Next time, PLEASE be considerate of scratchers who do not have the luxury of having accounts on other social media or gaming sites.

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