Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

eastons

It would be helpful to collapse hat blocks in order to clear some clutter.

Thanks.
seaston

OrcaCat

Support. This would be really helpful, especially for overly complex custom blocks.

scimonster

I thing this is a good idea, but it would definitely need to be thought through. It has been brought up before, and one of the biggest concerns has been that if a script was collapsed, newbies wouldn't know where to find it. So, with that in mind, here are my ideas:

An uncollapse all button, prominently features in the editor.
Collapsed scripts are purely for the creator to organize the scripts - when another user looks inside, they are all uncollapsed.
However, going on the above, someone can recollapse the way the project creator did.

That sounds fair, doesn't it?

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scimonster wrote:
I thing this is a good idea, but it would definitely need to be thought through. It has been brought up before, and one of the biggest concerns has been that if a script was collapsed, newbies wouldn't know where to find it. So, with that in mind, here are my ideas:
An uncollapse all button, prominently features in the editor.
Collapsed scripts are purely for the creator to organize the scripts - when another user looks inside, they are all uncollapsed.
However, going on the above, someone can recollapse the way the project creator did.
That sounds fair, doesn't it?

Maybe keep them collapsed when the user looks inside, but have a prominent option to uncollapse (IE spell checker thinks that's not a word?) a script (on the definition hat), and an option to uncollapse all.

Well
We're at 2.0
I'm not sure this is a good thing
But I guess we'll have to stay here

eastons

I agree there needs to be a simple way for novice(which I guess I am

) to uncollapse all. I was envisioning a very large plus or minus button somewhere on the hat itself.

thanks,
eastons

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Last edited by eastons (May 13, 2013 00:00:36)

jvvg

This would save me a lot of clutter in my projects. I support.

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+1 I definately agree.

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What exactly would that mean?

k7e

I don't think the hat blocks (in Scratch 2.0 OR 3.0) cause much clutter at all, I don't get how this would be implemented

Last edited by k7e (March 27, 2023 21:22:56)

@mythoslore was so much more obvious than @spookily

medians

k7e wrote:
I don't the hat blocks (in Scratch 2.0 OR 3.0) cause much clutter at all, I don't get how this would be implemented

Wow, you've found a topic that is only 3 days younger than 2.0 itself!
Also you have 667 - 1 posts
Anyway, I believe they might have meant as in the code.
So instead of this:

You could collapse it.

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k7e

medians wrote:
k7e wrote:
I don't the hat blocks (in Scratch 2.0 OR 3.0) cause much clutter at all, I don't get how this would be implemented
Wow, you've found a topic that is only 3 days younger than 2.0 itself!
Also you have 667 - 1 posts
Anyway, I believe they might have meant as in the code.
So instead of this:

You could collapse it.

not anymore
Then I think this would be very helpful if the entire script would be hidden. I thought it would just shrink the size of the hat block but keep the rest of the script.

@mythoslore was so much more obvious than @spookily

k7e

bump

@mythoslore was so much more obvious than @spookily

bentshaggyoil

Support, would save a lot of space and prevent lag (because more svgs cause lag on some devices)

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k7e

bump

@mythoslore was so much more obvious than @spookily

TerryLeeStudio

Maybe the ability to collapsed basically anything. But there should be a uncollapse all button

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I feel like this is a duplicate, but I can’t find the original post.
But, support. It would be useful for projects with lots of code.

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-OdysseyCentral- wrote:
I feel like this is a duplicate, but I can’t find the original post.
But, support. It would be useful for projects with lots of code.

Well, it would be hard to find anything before then anyway because this topic is from the month and year that 2.0 released (May 11, 2013 vs May 9, 2013).

TerryLeeStudio wrote:
Maybe the ability to collapsed basically anything. But there should be a uncollapse all button

Well, do you mean like C blocks and reporters/booleans and stuff?

Last edited by medians (March 18, 2023 16:17:51)

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Elijah999999

Hmmm, this could be helpful, but as scimonster said, it could make it easier for new scratchers* to lose their blocks.

*Okay, I would probably lose a lot of my stuff that way too, but it was to embarrassing to admit, so I said new scratchers. I regret blaming them. They did nothing to me! Why am I being so mean to new scratchers all of a sudden??? They never did anything mean to me! I never did anything mean to them! I'm such a coward, blaming innocent people for losing their scripts for my own sake. *cries*

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medians

Elijah999999 wrote:
Hmmm, this could be helpful, but as scimonster said, it could make it easier for new scratchers* to lose their blocks.

*Okay, I would probably lose a lot of my stuff that way too, but it was to embarrassing to admit, so I said new scratchers. I regret blaming them. They did nothing to me! Why am I being so mean to new scratchers all of a sudden??? They never did anything mean to me! I never did anything mean to them! I'm such a coward, blaming innocent people for losing their scripts for my own sake. *cries*

Uh, what?
Also, wow, if you see that username, you know you're on an old topic.
I'm not sure what this would look like though, and maybe there could be something you have to press along with right clicking for the option to show up? (like with the old Hidden Features)

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Fun_Cupcake_i81: Well then if you didn't want it back maybe you need to time travel to last year and fix that

Oh wait if you could time travel I think we all know exactly when you would go-
user1: That picture is from 2.0. Now he’s at my house and is my pet.
user2: But this is medians we're talking about, so “from 2.0” can mean the same thing as “from five seconds ago”.
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