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eastons
Scratcher
25 posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

It would be helpful to collapse hat blocks in order to clear some clutter.

Thanks.
seaston
OrcaCat
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

Support. This would be really helpful, especially for overly complex custom blocks.
scimonster
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

I thing this is a good idea, but it would definitely need to be thought through. It has been brought up before, and one of the biggest concerns has been that if a script was collapsed, newbies wouldn't know where to find it. So, with that in mind, here are my ideas:
  • An uncollapse all button, prominently features in the editor.
  • Collapsed scripts are purely for the creator to organize the scripts - when another user looks inside, they are all uncollapsed.
  • However, going on the above, someone can recollapse the way the project creator did.
That sounds fair, doesn't it?
SuperJedi224
Scratcher
100+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

Support
Hyperbola
Scratcher
99 posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

scimonster wrote:

I thing this is a good idea, but it would definitely need to be thought through. It has been brought up before, and one of the biggest concerns has been that if a script was collapsed, newbies wouldn't know where to find it. So, with that in mind, here are my ideas:
  • An uncollapse all button, prominently features in the editor.
  • Collapsed scripts are purely for the creator to organize the scripts - when another user looks inside, they are all uncollapsed.
  • However, going on the above, someone can recollapse the way the project creator did.
That sounds fair, doesn't it?
Maybe keep them collapsed when the user looks inside, but have a prominent option to uncollapse (IE spell checker thinks that's not a word?) a script (on the definition hat), and an option to uncollapse all.
eastons
Scratcher
25 posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

I agree there needs to be a simple way for novice(which I guess I am ) to uncollapse all. I was envisioning a very large plus or minus button somewhere on the hat itself.

thanks,
eastons

edit: Fixed a smiley fiasco and a link http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/10154478/ to my first project made with my 7 year old son.

Last edited by eastons (May 13, 2013 00:00:36)

jvvg
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

This would save me a lot of clutter in my projects. I support.
dusty22
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100+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

+1 I definately agree.
Scratch12300
Scratcher
500+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

What exactly would that mean?
k7e
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

I don't think the hat blocks (in Scratch 2.0 OR 3.0) cause much clutter at all, I don't get how this would be implemented

Last edited by k7e (March 27, 2023 21:22:56)

medians
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

k7e wrote:

I don't the hat blocks (in Scratch 2.0 OR 3.0) cause much clutter at all, I don't get how this would be implemented
Wow, you've found a topic that is only 3 days younger than 2.0 itself!
Also you have 667 - 1 posts

Anyway, I believe they might have meant as in the code.
So instead of this:

You could collapse it.
k7e
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

medians wrote:

k7e wrote:

I don't the hat blocks (in Scratch 2.0 OR 3.0) cause much clutter at all, I don't get how this would be implemented
Wow, you've found a topic that is only 3 days younger than 2.0 itself!
Also you have 667 - 1 posts

Anyway, I believe they might have meant as in the code.
So instead of this:

You could collapse it.
not anymore
Then I think this would be very helpful if the entire script would be hidden. I thought it would just shrink the size of the hat block but keep the rest of the script.
k7e
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

bump
bentshaggyoil
Scratcher
100+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

Support, would save a lot of space and prevent lag (because more svgs cause lag on some devices)
k7e
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

bump
TerryLeeStudio
Scratcher
100+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

Maybe the ability to collapsed basically anything. But there should be a uncollapse all button
-OdysseyCentral-
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1000+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

I feel like this is a duplicate, but I can’t find the original post.
But, support. It would be useful for projects with lots of code.
medians
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

-OdysseyCentral- wrote:

I feel like this is a duplicate, but I can’t find the original post.
But, support. It would be useful for projects with lots of code.
Well, it would be hard to find anything before then anyway because this topic is from the month and year that 2.0 released (May 11, 2013 vs May 9, 2013).

TerryLeeStudio wrote:

Maybe the ability to collapsed basically anything. But there should be a uncollapse all button
Well, do you mean like C blocks and reporters/booleans and stuff?

Last edited by medians (March 18, 2023 16:17:51)

Elijah999999
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

Hmmm, this could be helpful, but as scimonster said, it could make it easier for new scratchers* to lose their blocks.

*Okay, I would probably lose a lot of my stuff that way too, but it was to embarrassing to admit, so I said new scratchers. I regret blaming them. They did nothing to me! Why am I being so mean to new scratchers all of a sudden??? They never did anything mean to me! I never did anything mean to them! I'm such a coward, blaming innocent people for losing their scripts for my own sake. *cries*
medians
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Collapse Custom Define Blocks and other "hat" blocks

Elijah999999 wrote:

Hmmm, this could be helpful, but as scimonster said, it could make it easier for new scratchers* to lose their blocks.

*Okay, I would probably lose a lot of my stuff that way too, but it was to embarrassing to admit, so I said new scratchers. I regret blaming them. They did nothing to me! Why am I being so mean to new scratchers all of a sudden??? They never did anything mean to me! I never did anything mean to them! I'm such a coward, blaming innocent people for losing their scripts for my own sake. *cries*
Uh, what?
Also, wow, if you see that username, you know you're on an old topic.
I'm not sure what this would look like though, and maybe there could be something you have to press along with right clicking for the option to show up? (like with the old Hidden Features)

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