Did I do the right thing?

TheHockeyist

Someone remixed one of my projects. All they did was alter a small section of the code, specifically the section where only I could change the data. He/She deleted that part and now anyone can access their project and put false data on it, tricking other users into believing incorrect information about the user. I am outraged. They did not change anything else. No sprites, not the rest of the code, anything. They did not give me credit either.

I did not tell them to give credit, as I was already outraged that this was a duplicate. I did not say anything to the user. I reported the project, put basically the above in the box, and off it went. Did I do the right thing?

If not, what should I have done?

-TheHockeyist, outraged, but still (semi-)calm.

Last edited by TheHockeyist (Aug. 21, 2014 21:20:35)

Firedrake969

Probably not. It's a remix, so it's obviously not created by you, and the autocredit thing is generally considered good enough. Also, that change still was a change.

(I assume we're talking about the same project?)

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Dreamo

I'm not an expert about reporting situations, but I think you could have asked the user to unshare the remix for the reasons in the first paragraph, and/or ask them to give credit and then if the user agreed, you'd have solved the problem without involving the mods. If the user hadn't, you might then want to report the project.

TheHockeyist

Firedrake969 wrote:
Probably not. It's a remix, so it's obviously not created by you, and the autocredit thing is generally considered good enough. Also, that change still was a change.

(I assume we're talking about the same project?)

They copied my project and changed only a script. I'd say that's not enough.

gdpr533f604550b2f20900645890

TheHockeyist wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Probably not. It's a remix, so it's obviously not created by you, and the autocredit thing is generally considered good enough. Also, that change still was a change.

(I assume we're talking about the same project?)

They copied my project and changed only a script. I'd say that's not enough.

Even recolors are allowed. Unfortunately, a change is a change. However, what the other user did does sound sleazy and deceptive, so maybe you could explain to the ST exactly what happened.

Last edited by gdpr533f604550b2f20900645890 (Aug. 21, 2014 21:59:58)

TheHockeyist

Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Probably not. It's a remix, so it's obviously not created by you, and the autocredit thing is generally considered good enough. Also, that change still was a change.

(I assume we're talking about the same project?)

They copied my project and changed only a script. I'd say that's not enough.
Even recolors are allowed. Unfortunately, a change is a change. However, what the other user did does sound sleazy and deceptive, so maybe you could explain to the ST exactly what happened.

I already reported the project to them.

gdpr533f604550b2f20900645890

TheHockeyist wrote:
Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Probably not. It's a remix, so it's obviously not created by you, and the autocredit thing is generally considered good enough. Also, that change still was a change.

(I assume we're talking about the same project?)

They copied my project and changed only a script. I'd say that's not enough.
Even recolors are allowed. Unfortunately, a change is a change. However, what the other user did does sound sleazy and deceptive, so maybe you could explain to the ST exactly what happened.

I already reported the project to them.

Maybe you could use Contact Us as well, just to make sure.

Last edited by gdpr533f604550b2f20900645890 (Aug. 21, 2014 22:14:07)

TheHockeyist

Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Probably not. It's a remix, so it's obviously not created by you, and the autocredit thing is generally considered good enough. Also, that change still was a change.

(I assume we're talking about the same project?)

They copied my project and changed only a script. I'd say that's not enough.
Even recolors are allowed. Unfortunately, a change is a change. However, what the other user did does sound sleazy and deceptive, so maybe you could explain to the ST exactly what happened.

I already reported the project to them.
Maybe you could use Contact Us as well, just to make sure.

Isn't reporting it enough?

gdpr533f604550b2f20900645890

TheHockeyist wrote:
Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Probably not. It's a remix, so it's obviously not created by you, and the autocredit thing is generally considered good enough. Also, that change still was a change.

(I assume we're talking about the same project?)

They copied my project and changed only a script. I'd say that's not enough.
Even recolors are allowed. Unfortunately, a change is a change. However, what the other user did does sound sleazy and deceptive, so maybe you could explain to the ST exactly what happened.

I already reported the project to them.
Maybe you could use Contact Us as well, just to make sure.
Isn't reporting it enough?

I don`t know. (I just saw your project. Since there is a link to the original, people will know to go there and will get the right info.)

Last edited by gdpr533f604550b2f20900645890 (Aug. 21, 2014 22:16:59)

TheHockeyist

Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Probably not. It's a remix, so it's obviously not created by you, and the autocredit thing is generally considered good enough. Also, that change still was a change.

(I assume we're talking about the same project?)

They copied my project and changed only a script. I'd say that's not enough.
Even recolors are allowed. Unfortunately, a change is a change. However, what the other user did does sound sleazy and deceptive, so maybe you could explain to the ST exactly what happened.

I already reported the project to them.
Maybe you could use Contact Us as well, just to make sure.
Isn't reporting it enough?
I don`t know. (I just saw your project. Since there is a link to the original, people will know to go there and will get the right info.)

There is a link, but this is giving out false information. And it wasn't even by me. It was a remix.

gdpr533f604550b2f20900645890

TheHockeyist wrote:
There is a link, but this is giving out false information. And it wasn't even by me. It was a remix.

Though the project is inaccurate, the good thing is that people will probably look at the original. So you can tell the ST, but I don`t think any true damage is done.

Last edited by gdpr533f604550b2f20900645890 (Aug. 21, 2014 22:27:33)

TheHockeyist

Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
Probably not. It's a remix, so it's obviously not created by you, and the autocredit thing is generally considered good enough. Also, that change still was a change.

(I assume we're talking about the same project?)

They copied my project and changed only a script. I'd say that's not enough.
Even recolors are allowed. Unfortunately, a change is a change. However, what the other user did does sound sleazy and deceptive, so maybe you could explain to the ST exactly what happened.

I already reported the project to them.
Maybe you could use Contact Us as well, just to make sure.
Isn't reporting it enough?
I don`t know. (I just saw your project. Since there is a link to the original, people will know to go there and will get the right info.)
There is a link, but this is giving out false information. And it wasn't even by me. It was a remix.
Though the project is inaccurate, the good thing is that people will probably look at the original.

True, but I'm still very concerned. This user copied my project, made one small change, and uploaded it. I am mad. Even one small change in the code is not enough. Especially if the project is whether I'm online or not.

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TheHockeyist wrote:
True, but I'm still very concerned. This user copied my project, made one small change, and uploaded it. I am mad. Even one small change in the code is not enough. Especially if the project is whether I'm online or not.

You can still report it (I just don`t think it will truly mislead people, and a small change is a change).

Last edited by gdpr533f604550b2f20900645890 (Aug. 21, 2014 22:30:00)

TheHockeyist

Chibi-Matoran wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
True, but I'm still very concerned. This user copied my project, made one small change, and uploaded it. I am mad. Even one small change in the code is not enough. Especially if the project is whether I'm online or not.
You can still report it (I just don`t think it will truly mislead people, and a small change is a change).

I already reported it.

KingOfAwesome58219

Dreamo wrote:
I'm not an expert about reporting situations, but I think you could have asked the user to unshare the remix for the reasons in the first paragraph, and/or ask them to give credit and then if the user agreed, you'd have solved the problem without involving the mods. If the user hadn't, you might then want to report the project.

I completely agree with Dreamo here

AonymousGuy

The basic rule of thumb is that if anything is changed, it counts as a remix. So even changing

<(username) = [TheHockeyist]>

to

<(username) = [...]>

Is a legit remix.

Changing the position or hiding / showing a monitor are basically the only things that don't count.

And you should always ask a person for credit in the comments (and wait for a response) before reporting anything.

Last edited by AonymousGuy (Aug. 21, 2014 23:02:00)

TheHockeyist

AonymousGuy wrote:
The basic rule of thumb is that if anything is changed, it counts as a remix. So even changing
<(username) = [TheHockeyist]>
to
<(username) = [...]>
Is a legit remix.

Changing the position or hiding / showing a monitor are basically the only things that don't count.

And you should always ask a person for credit in the comments (and wait for a response) before reporting anything.

They removed that entire

if <(username) = [TheHockeyist]> then
    
end

block.

AonymousGuy

TheHockeyist wrote:
AonymousGuy wrote:
The basic rule of thumb is that if anything is changed, it counts as a remix. So even changing
<(username) = [TheHockeyist]>
to
<(username) = [...]>
Is a legit remix.

Changing the position or hiding / showing a monitor are basically the only things that don't count.

And you should always ask a person for credit in the comments (and wait for a response) before reporting anything.
They removed that entire
if <(username) = [TheHockeyist]> then
    
end
block.

Which, in effect, is the same as

AonymousGuy wrote:
changing
<(username) = [TheHockeyist]>
to
<(username) = [...]>

Firedrake969

Removing an if block is still legitimate (and can sometimes dramatically alter the program)

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TheHockeyist

Firedrake969 wrote:
Removing an if block is still legitimate (and can sometimes dramatically alter the program)

I'm still very angry at the user.

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