This is probably answered somewhere but I can't find it.

I totally understand the whole idea of the New Scratcher status and I most of the NS restrictions are reasonable, but the limitation on cloud variable usage just seems strange to me. I don't see why you need to prove that you're not a spammer to use cloud variables. If I break a cloud high score on a game, how is that causing spam? How is it any different to if an ordinary scratcher did it?

The wiki says “The Scratch Team does not want people new to Scratch crashing the server or taking up space because they don't really know what they are doing.”. To me this sounds a bit harsh, last time I checked there were already restrictions to prevent too much space from being taken up by setting a 10 cloud variable limit.

If the ST are worried about ridiculously long variables being created, well there are plenty of projects out there with insanely long cloud variables that are thousands of digits long and nobody complains that they are crashing the server or taking up too much space. Plus, how are New Scratcher meant to know what they are doing if they are prevented from doing it in the first place? I'm sure that there are just as many Scratchers who “don't really know what they are doing” as there are New Scratchers.

Tl;dr Why can't New Scratchers use cloud data?

Another question: is it possible to make cloud variables on the offline editor?

Arcanity wrote:

Another question: is it possible to make cloud variables on the offline editor?

It requires sign in, so you can't make cloud variable's in the offline editor.

Accidentally doing something like

forever
set [var1 v] to (join (var1) (var1))
end

because that would send lots of requests to the server and lag it more than just storing a variable. (Or so I would think).

Of course, it would probably be by accident, so the script would be intended to do something else and look more like:

set [var1 v] to []
set [var2 v] to [1]
repeat until <(letter (var2) of [cat]) = [t]>
set [var1 v] to (join (var1) [Meow! ])
end

The reason why they don't allow cloud variables for New Scratchers is someone might enter a bad word on them or turn it into a chatroom (Although, seriously? They only allow numbers at the moment…).

The scratch team is still testing cloud variables and can't quite trust new scratchers to use them because there are plenty of ways to “hack” them. They have to wait until they are sure you a trustworthy human being to be able to use them.

To answer your other question, no, you cannot create cloud variables in the offline editor because it's an offline editor. The cloud variables wouldn't be able to be stored on any server. Also, you would have the only computer that uses the project, so the cloud variables wouldn't be necessary in the first place. If you upload it to the website, however, you could add variables because now the project is online.

-TopHat- wrote:

The scratch team is still testing cloud variables and can't quite trust new scratchers to use them because there are plenty of ways to “hack” them. They have to wait until they are sure you a trustworthy human being to be able to use them.

Okay, thanks that sort of makes sense although I still personally disagree with the restriction.

-TopHat- wrote:

To answer your other question, no, you cannot create cloud variables in the offline editor because it's an offline editor. The cloud variables wouldn't be able to be stored on any server. Also, you would have the only computer that uses the project, so the cloud variables wouldn't be necessary in the first place. If you upload it to the website, however, you could add variables because now the project is online.

If you make cloud variables in the online editor, are they saved to the server even before the project is publicly uploaded to the site? I thought that they were only really “set” when the project is shared.

Arcanity wrote:

Ignore this post…

Umm.. Are you going to write something?

If you make cloud variables in the online editor, are they saved to the server even before the project is publicly uploaded to the site? I thought that they were only really “set” when the project is shared.

If you mean before it's shared, but that it's still on the website, then yes.

HOWING wrote:

Arcanity wrote:

Ignore this post…

Umm.. Are you going to write something?

He did.
Anyway, I'm neutral on the idea of New Scratchers using Cloud Variables.

Sonickyle wrote:

HOWING wrote:

Arcanity wrote:

Ignore this post…

Umm.. Are you going to write something?

He did.
Anyway, I'm neutral on the idea of New Scratchers using Cloud Variables.

Haha, forget about that, I was just checking something that slightly confused me.

The Scratch Team was afraid of us making chat rooms.They could have as well banned Scratchers from having cloud data.But,they couldn't.So,they banned new scratchers.

Why

In addition to the anti-spam / anti-troll reasons given previously on this topic, there is another reason that New Scratchers are restricted from using cloud Variables. It's better for the community and easier on our moderators if people are invested in their accounts and work to keep them in good standing with the community. By withholding cloud variable features from brand-new accounts, it provides an incentive for Scratch users to stick with their existing accounts and work to keep them in good shape so they don't get blocked.

Look it may say im a new scratcher but ive been using scratch for over 5 years and I know how to use a cloud variable I'm just not allowed ( Ik now how to because of youtube) (thanks to Chad Hurley, Steve Chen, Jawed Karim for making youtube!!!!) but most people if they don't know how to do something they google/youtube it!!! or if their old fasion they ask their parents for help.