Enable unnecessarily locked out features on <key [... v] pressed?>

wizzwizz4

I've recently discovered that there are things possible with this block that are unnecessarily locked out in the editor.

<key [... v] pressed?>

If you were to try to place a variable inside it, it wouldn't work. It wouldn't fit in. But if you modify the Scratch Project JSON so the variable IS in it:

<key (Why is there no other way?) pressed?>

It works as normal, with the value of the variable being the list item. And you can have a list with all the possible keys, then use something like this:

delete (all v) of [keysPressed v]
set [variable v] to [1]
repeat (length of [keysList v])
    if <key (item (variable) of [keysList v]) pressed?> then
        add (variable) to [keysPressed v]
    end
    change [variable v] by (1)
end

to check which keys are down. There could even be a list in sensing for it, but that is not my current suggestion.
There is another thing:
If the variable's value is blank, it detects OTHER KEYS, including Ctrl, Cmd, Meta and Shift, most importantly Shift. There is no reason for these not to be implemented (apart from that the Scratch Team might have better things to do like fixing bugs that delete people's projects) and Shift would really help for projects that you type text for.
So my suggestions are:

<<<key (variable) pressed?> and <key [Shift v] pressed?>> and <<key [Ctrl/Cmd v] pressed?> and <key [Meta v] pressed?>>>

These are all possible with the current code and would not require much work to implement, but many people's projects would benefit from it.

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TheHockeyist

Support!

Why not add

<key [, v] pressed?>
<key [\ v] pressed?>
<key [[ v] pressed?>

etc.
while you're at it?

Last edited by TheHockeyist (Aug. 7, 2014 12:54:31)

Greatguy123

Support!

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savaka

What's the meta key? Is that the OS logo key? And I think there should be no dropdown at all. I think it should work like game control setup screens work.
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wizzwizz4

savaka wrote:
What's the meta key? Is that the OS logo key?

Bang on. When I used a Windows-based keyboard with my Raspberry Pi, the Windows Key came up as Meta Key on every single application: DOS-Box, Nano and even Xinit! So yeah.

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robosnakejr

Support

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VoltageGames

This idea always gets turned down because it will clutter the drop down.
It would be easier if instead of a dropdown, there was a string.

<key [ ] pressed?>

(so you can input the key you want)

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lalala3

VoltageGames wrote:
This idea always gets turned down because it will clutter the drop down.
It would be easier if instead of a dropdown, there was a string.
<key [ ] pressed?>
(so you can input the key you want)

Or there could be an option on the last page of the key drop-down that pulls up the picture of a keyboard, or simply reads the next key press, the way it works in video games where you can change the keybinds.

jTron

I'd support this - my suggestion would be a dropdown like

key( v) pressed? :: sensing

where you can type a letter or symbol but also select options like tab, delete, meta, etc.

Scratch actually can detect a lot more keys than you'd think. Check out my project, Keydown Detection+, which detects the most different keys of any keypress detection project that I'm yet aware of.

Here's a question - how should scratch handle action keys? For example, if we used:
= control | alt/option | meta (winkey/command)
as options, projects made for windows users (control being main action key) would be uncomfortable for mac users and projects made on for macs would be completely impossible as winkey would simply bring up the start menu (or the metro … thing.) But if we used:
= control/command | alt/option | control/winkey
it seems confusing as control is there twice. In addition, if the player is grabbing keyboard commands, it can be hard to, for example, quit using Cmd+Q, etc. Maybe the best thing would be to have just
= action
which equals control on mac and alt on a pc - so it doesn't take away important commands (?) and is usable on any machine.

This also brings up the idea of the

when action & [q v] pressed :: events hat

hat - could be useful? Then Scratch would know which commands to snatch at the beginning and the browser could have the rest.

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MushroomMan99

Support. This would make text editors easier.

when green flag clicked
if <(language) = [English ]> then
    
say [Everything is Awesome!] for (2) secs
end
if <(language) = [French ]> then
    
say [Tout est super-genial!] for (2) secs
end
if <(language) = [Italian ]> then
    
say [E meraviglioso!] for (2) secs
end
if <(language) = [Spanish ]> then

say [Todo es fabuloso!] for (2) secs    
end

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