More reporters inside of dropdowns

Iditaroid

Currently in Scratch, you can place a reporter inside of many different dropdown menus which makes the following combinations possible:

play sound (variable)

point towards (variable)

broadcast (variable)

switch costume to (variable)

However, there are many places where you can't put a reporter including but not limited to variable and list dropdowns, keyboard dropdowns, effect dropdowns, and any video-related dropdowns! It makes no sense that the program would support the above functions but not any others! You should be able to replace any dropdown menu you want with a reporter. This discussion ended with an idea for a custom block that could be made possible if this was implemented and I'm sure many other people could find good uses for something like this.

turkey3

Variables cannot be in variable drop downs due to a very technical issue— calling a variable by a variable.

Iditaroid

turkey3 wrote:
Variables cannot be in variable drop downs due to a very technical issue— calling a variable by a variable.

What makes this an issue?

djdolphin

Iditaroid wrote:
turkey3 wrote:
Variables cannot be in variable drop downs due to a very technical issue— calling a variable by a variable.
What makes this an issue?

Because of a glitch it allows you to create arbitrary variables while the program is running. This was never an intended feature.

Iditaroid

djdolphin wrote:
Iditaroid wrote:
turkey3 wrote:
Variables cannot be in variable drop downs due to a very technical issue— calling a variable by a variable.
What makes this an issue?
Because of a glitch it allows you to create arbitrary variables while the program is running. This was never an intended feature.

Hm, i see. It would be nice if they could fix it, trying to switch to a costume that doesn't exist doesnt create a new costume so I don't see why it would have to happen (although I don't really understand how Scratch is built so maybe it's more complicated than that..)

MushroomMan99

Iditaroid wrote:
Currently in Scratch, you can place a reporter inside of many different dropdown menus which makes the following combinations possible:
play sound (variable)
point towards (variable)
broadcast (variable)
switch costume to (variable)
However, there are many places where you can't put a reporter including but not limited to variable and list dropdowns, keyboard dropdowns, effect dropdowns, and any video-related dropdowns! It makes no sense that the program would support the above functions but not any others! You should be able to replace any dropdown menu you want with a reporter. This discussion ended with an idea for a custom block that could be made possible if this was implemented and I'm sure many other people could find good uses for something like this.

I think there needs to be one in the

when (letter) key pressed

block because if you set variable

(letter)

and did this to . it could be a way to type characters that are not yet stored in that block such as .!?/,-+* and backspace

TheMonsterOfTheDeep

Apologies, but I'm going to bump this because I think this is something that we need. Currently, “hacking” blocks is the only way to utilize reporters in dropdowns, and the Scratch Team is rather iffy about allowing hacked blocks in projects. However, there are some incredibly useful ways to use reporters in this manner, and I think that it would be very good if these were available in vanilla Scratch.

Sheep_maker

Support for allowing all reporters and booleans to be dragged into every kind of dropdown
oh, and allowing reporters to be dragged into boolean slots
The shapes of these inputs let new Scratchers know that the blocks aren't meant to be there so I don't think it would be confusing to new Scratchers.

liam48D

Quick bump.

To anyone that can figure this out.. why don't let dropdowns let any block go in them? (At least, most dropdowns.)

This is absolutely a very intended feature, some of the Scratch 3.0 design specs help reduce ambiguity with these dropdowns but it doesn't explain why some dropdowns don't accept reporters and some do.

Alberknyis

djdolphin wrote:
Iditaroid wrote:
turkey3 wrote:
Variables cannot be in variable drop downs due to a very technical issue— calling a variable by a variable.
What makes this an issue?
Because of a glitch it allows you to create arbitrary variables while the program is running. This was never an intended feature.

But that glitch is awesome!

Unless you run it in a forever loop by accident and now you have to delete all the variables.

I support any reporter in any dropdown, and that they do what they currently do if someone hacked them in.

BookOwl

liam48D wrote:
Quick bump.

To anyone that can figure this out.. why don't let dropdowns let any block go in them? (At least, most dropdowns.)

This is absolutely a very intended feature, some of the Scratch 3.0 design specs help reduce ambiguity with these dropdowns but it doesn't explain why some dropdowns don't accept reporters and some do.

I believe that the reason the ST don't let most dropdowns allow reporters to be dropped in is that it could be confusing.

Last edited by BookOwl (Sept. 24, 2016 13:02:12)

Iditaroid

BookOwl wrote:
liam48D wrote:
Quick bump.

To anyone that can figure this out.. why don't let dropdowns let any block go in them? (At least, most dropdowns.)

This is absolutely a very intended feature, some of the Scratch 3.0 design specs help reduce ambiguity with these dropdowns but it doesn't explain why some dropdowns don't accept reporters and some do.
I believe that the reason the ST don't let most dropdowns allow reporters to be dropped in is that it could be confusing.

Then why allow reporters in any dropdowns at all? The selection of dropdowns where it's allowed seems a bit arbitrary. At the very least, adding it to the key pressed boolean would be very useful.

ScolderCreations

Bump

ScolderCreations

ScolderCreations wrote:
Bump

960times10_5is106044

I support!

k0d3rrr

960times10_5is106044 wrote:
I support!

Why? Please be constructive.
Otherwise, your post may be seen as a necropost.

MrXelaYT

bump

windows11microsoft

great idea or useful for people instead of break the server by doing thid

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