Scratch and China (Discussion on Recent Website Block)

64lu

Basic88 wrote:
DownsGameClub wrote:
garnet-chan wrote:
64lu wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
Watching the video, I see that they keep pointing at “Hong Kong and Taiwan are not listed as merged into China”, so maybe we may have to do a few things to unban scratch.
I believe there is a suggestion on GitHub to change country to location
It's already changed.
I think that's already been a thing. At registration it might be a bit different.
It is different:
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wait, so was this changed in 3.0?
or was it always inconsistent?

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leahcimto

64lu wrote:
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I am pretty sure it always said country at registration, but I am not sure about the account settings.

Basic88

leahcimto wrote:
64lu wrote:
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I am pretty sure it always said country at registration, but I am not sure about the account settings.

There used to be a way to register through the 2.0 register page in 3.0, but the ST has since patched it. Thus, I can't screenshot what that page looked like.

Last edited by Basic88 (Aug. 14, 2020 19:03:44)

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garnet-chan

Basic88 wrote:
leahcimto wrote:
64lu wrote:
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I am pretty sure it always said country at registration, but I am not sure about the account settings.
There used to be a way to register through the 2.0 register page in 3.0, but the ST has since patched it. Thus, I can't screenshot what that page looked like.

Yes, it says “What country do you live in” at sign-up.

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Basic88

The Scratch Team hasn't posted yet

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DancingNekoGirl

Couldn't you use a VPN?

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mtech22

This seems similar to how TikTok is being banned…. hmmm

aII toasters toast toast, but what happens when there are no longer toasters being produced? will their technology simply become obsolete, with humans moving onto bigger, better things? will toast become a distant memory, written in textbooks of the future as foods us simpler generations ate? who's to say! society is constantly moving, changing, evolving, ideas being built upon, improved upon, theories being proven or disproven. are we but a blip on the timeline? sure, our names may not be remembered, but that's not the point. you can make a change. you can make a difference. you can make the world better, even if you don't know yet. and the first step is to go for it. even if you are afraid of failure. going back to the example of toasters, do you know off the top of your head who invented them? no? have you used one? probably. so, even if you don't remember my name, if I was able to help awnser your question, that is enough. if I was able to help you, even in the slightest way, this could push you to continue with scratch and not give up after the program crashes, and maybe one day learn other programming languages and change the world. everything is a cause and effect reaction, new inventions lead to the technology of the future, and even as the generations of the past are slowly forgotten, their influence lives on to this day, affecting how the world eventually turned out and how it will be for generations to come.

and, without toasters, we wouldn't have toast.

Basic88

DancingNekoGirl wrote:
Couldn't you use a VPN?

The government of China blocks VPN websites, as stated by @LankyBox01.

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mtech22

garnet-chan wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
leahcimto wrote:
64lu wrote:
-snip-
I am pretty sure it always said country at registration, but I am not sure about the account settings.
There used to be a way to register through the 2.0 register page in 3.0, but the ST has since patched it. Thus, I can't screenshot what that page looked like.

Yes, it says “What country do you live in” at sign-up.

Some people can have accounts with “Location not Given.”
Also, you can fake your account location. But they could technichally ban the site using the same way Wi-Fi and different browser extensions can. I'm going to look into this and see if i can find any articles on google.

aII toasters toast toast, but what happens when there are no longer toasters being produced? will their technology simply become obsolete, with humans moving onto bigger, better things? will toast become a distant memory, written in textbooks of the future as foods us simpler generations ate? who's to say! society is constantly moving, changing, evolving, ideas being built upon, improved upon, theories being proven or disproven. are we but a blip on the timeline? sure, our names may not be remembered, but that's not the point. you can make a change. you can make a difference. you can make the world better, even if you don't know yet. and the first step is to go for it. even if you are afraid of failure. going back to the example of toasters, do you know off the top of your head who invented them? no? have you used one? probably. so, even if you don't remember my name, if I was able to help awnser your question, that is enough. if I was able to help you, even in the slightest way, this could push you to continue with scratch and not give up after the program crashes, and maybe one day learn other programming languages and change the world. everything is a cause and effect reaction, new inventions lead to the technology of the future, and even as the generations of the past are slowly forgotten, their influence lives on to this day, affecting how the world eventually turned out and how it will be for generations to come.

and, without toasters, we wouldn't have toast.

mtech22

But Lotus_Flow seems to still be active. There wasn't anything on google except for a discussion from 2017, and they'd probably mention it at some point. But there isn't any way to really tell as… people can fake their locale.

aII toasters toast toast, but what happens when there are no longer toasters being produced? will their technology simply become obsolete, with humans moving onto bigger, better things? will toast become a distant memory, written in textbooks of the future as foods us simpler generations ate? who's to say! society is constantly moving, changing, evolving, ideas being built upon, improved upon, theories being proven or disproven. are we but a blip on the timeline? sure, our names may not be remembered, but that's not the point. you can make a change. you can make a difference. you can make the world better, even if you don't know yet. and the first step is to go for it. even if you are afraid of failure. going back to the example of toasters, do you know off the top of your head who invented them? no? have you used one? probably. so, even if you don't remember my name, if I was able to help awnser your question, that is enough. if I was able to help you, even in the slightest way, this could push you to continue with scratch and not give up after the program crashes, and maybe one day learn other programming languages and change the world. everything is a cause and effect reaction, new inventions lead to the technology of the future, and even as the generations of the past are slowly forgotten, their influence lives on to this day, affecting how the world eventually turned out and how it will be for generations to come.

and, without toasters, we wouldn't have toast.

bubbly_513

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:
china ccp doesnt deserve respect but ok

i think that generalizing a whole group of people based on one thing is rude but ok

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Yeetoburro1

Basic88 wrote:
The Scratch Team hasn't posted yet

I'm honestly surprised by that

mtech22

Yeetoburro1 wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
The Scratch Team hasn't posted yet
I'm honestly surprised by that

Wouldn't they themselves know if china blocked their site?

aII toasters toast toast, but what happens when there are no longer toasters being produced? will their technology simply become obsolete, with humans moving onto bigger, better things? will toast become a distant memory, written in textbooks of the future as foods us simpler generations ate? who's to say! society is constantly moving, changing, evolving, ideas being built upon, improved upon, theories being proven or disproven. are we but a blip on the timeline? sure, our names may not be remembered, but that's not the point. you can make a change. you can make a difference. you can make the world better, even if you don't know yet. and the first step is to go for it. even if you are afraid of failure. going back to the example of toasters, do you know off the top of your head who invented them? no? have you used one? probably. so, even if you don't remember my name, if I was able to help awnser your question, that is enough. if I was able to help you, even in the slightest way, this could push you to continue with scratch and not give up after the program crashes, and maybe one day learn other programming languages and change the world. everything is a cause and effect reaction, new inventions lead to the technology of the future, and even as the generations of the past are slowly forgotten, their influence lives on to this day, affecting how the world eventually turned out and how it will be for generations to come.

and, without toasters, we wouldn't have toast.

Flowermanvista

bubbly_513 wrote:
ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:
china ccp doesnt deserve respect but ok
i think that generalizing a whole group of people based on one thing is rude but ok

CCP stands for Chinese Communist Party. It contains all the important government people that have power, and it's responsible for a laundry list of awful things, including the “reeducation”, sterilization, and maybe genocide of Uyghurs.

(edit: corrected “Uyghur Muslims” to just “Uyghur”)

Last edited by Flowermanvista (Aug. 14, 2020 20:44:28)

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Basic88

mtech22 wrote:
Yeetoburro1 wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
The Scratch Team hasn't posted yet
I'm honestly surprised by that
Wouldn't they themselves know if china blocked their site?

They know. I don't know what they're doing though.

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PrincessPandaLover

Basic88 wrote:
DownsGameClub wrote:
garnet-chan wrote:
64lu wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
Watching the video, I see that they keep pointing at “Hong Kong and Taiwan are not listed as merged into China”, so maybe we may have to do a few things to unban scratch.
I believe there is a suggestion on GitHub to change country to location
It's already changed.
I think that's already been a thing. At registration it might be a bit different.
It is different:

Change to “What region do you live in?”

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Basic88

PrincessPandaLover wrote:
Change to “What region do you live in?”

That was suggested on GitHub today if I remember correctly.

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4096bits

Yeetoburro1 wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
The Scratch Team hasn't posted yet
I'm honestly surprised by that

A mod already merged the topic, so they probably know this issue is present, but they have not posted in this topic.
ayy 101th post

Last edited by 4096bits (Aug. 14, 2020 20:56:00)

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mtech22

PrincessPandaLover wrote:
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What do you mean by region?

aII toasters toast toast, but what happens when there are no longer toasters being produced? will their technology simply become obsolete, with humans moving onto bigger, better things? will toast become a distant memory, written in textbooks of the future as foods us simpler generations ate? who's to say! society is constantly moving, changing, evolving, ideas being built upon, improved upon, theories being proven or disproven. are we but a blip on the timeline? sure, our names may not be remembered, but that's not the point. you can make a change. you can make a difference. you can make the world better, even if you don't know yet. and the first step is to go for it. even if you are afraid of failure. going back to the example of toasters, do you know off the top of your head who invented them? no? have you used one? probably. so, even if you don't remember my name, if I was able to help awnser your question, that is enough. if I was able to help you, even in the slightest way, this could push you to continue with scratch and not give up after the program crashes, and maybe one day learn other programming languages and change the world. everything is a cause and effect reaction, new inventions lead to the technology of the future, and even as the generations of the past are slowly forgotten, their influence lives on to this day, affecting how the world eventually turned out and how it will be for generations to come.

and, without toasters, we wouldn't have toast.

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kinda ironic how china banned scratch the same day apple banned fortnite am i rite guys

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