Scratch and China (Discussion on Recent Website Block)

64lu

Basic88 wrote:
64lu wrote:
so is this resolved until the ST makes a decision?
Basic88 wrote:
I actually found a post by Harakou on this.

soo, yes?
I don't really think any more discussion would really help anything

mtech22

64lu wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
64lu wrote:
so is this resolved until the ST makes a decision?
Basic88 wrote:
I actually found a post by Harakou on this.
soo, yes?
I don't really think any more discussion would really help anything

We should wait it out until the ST makes an announcement. But please do keep this topic open so we will know when this announcement comes out.

--Explosion--

mtech22 wrote:
64lu wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
64lu wrote:
so is this resolved until the ST makes a decision?
Basic88 wrote:
I actually found a post by Harakou on this.
soo, yes?
I don't really think any more discussion would really help anything
We should wait it out until the ST makes an announcement. But please do keep this topic open so we will know when this announcement comes out.

You can just watch https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/5 for a new topic. It'll also probably be next to the “What's happening” section of the front page as well.

Basic88

So, is this resolved? We (kind of) got a response from the Scratch Team.

Sheep_maker

I don't think Scratch will be unblocked because the two have very different views. The Chinese government believes in sacrificing free speech for the protection of its citizens and nation, but here we expect free speech to be the norm (except, for example, when our moral standards deem something inappropriate for all ages). China probably won't unblock Scratch until anti-China projects are removed, but Scratch probably won't take them down because they believe in free speech

Github isn't censored because programmers in China rely on it, so the editor itself can still be built and run and modded from there. China has their own websites too; there's 阿儿法营 and the Codemao mentioned earlier.

PrincessPandaLover

Sheep_maker wrote:
I don't think Scratch will be unblocked because the two have very different views. The Chinese government believes in sacrificing free speech for the protection of its citizens and nation, but here we expect free speech to be the norm (except, for example, when our moral standards deem something inappropriate for all ages). China probably won't unblock Scratch until anti-China projects are removed, but Scratch probably won't take them down because they believe in free speech

Github isn't censored because programmers in China rely on it, so the editor itself can still be built and run and modded from there. China has their own websites too; there's 阿儿法营 and the Codemao mentioned earlier.

Well at least we have a Chinese site hosting Scratch projects.

-FreeScratch-

swiftgtec wrote:
oh god.

#UnbanScratch

Do #FreeScratch if you want Scratch to be unbanned.

-FreeScratch-

64lu wrote:
how has this gotten 8 pages in a day!?

I mean, this is a big thing, but still.
maybe that's my fault for not being active

so is this resolved until the ST makes a decision?

Because it's big. And this is not a question, more of a full-on discussion. When this is over with, this topic will close. And to show your support to #FreeScratch, do the stuff in my siggy!

LegoManiac04

-FreeScratch- wrote:
swiftgtec wrote:
oh god.

#UnbanScratch
Do #FreeScratch if you want Scratch to be unbanned.

I mean, #FreeScratch is not going to get it unbanned itself- Plus the CCP won't see it anyway since, well, Scratch is banned there. :P
I'm not saying don't be all “#FreeScratch”, I'm just saying it won't do much, if anything.

Plus this is a bit off-topic anyway.

Last edited by LegoManiac04 (Aug. 15, 2020 21:29:25)

ninjaMAR

I hope scratch team does!

mtech22

ninjaMAR wrote:
I hope scratch team does!

What does that exactly seem to refer too?

Basic88

mtech22 wrote:
ninjaMAR wrote:
I hope scratch team does!
What does that exactly seem to refer too?

They mean they hope the Scratch Team makes an announcement on this.

DownsGameClub

Basic88 wrote:
mtech22 wrote:
ninjaMAR wrote:
I hope scratch team does!
What does that exactly seem to refer too?
They mean they hope the Scratch Team makes an announcement on this.

Considering this is regarding a matter about what scratchers are posting (ie “contacterais matters”) they’ll most likely make a statement soon. We do need to give it time though.

(Sent from my iPhone)

Basic88

DownsGameClub wrote:
Considering this is regarding a matter about what scratchers are posting (ie “contacterais matters”) they’ll most likely make a statement soon. We do need to give it time though.

(Sent from my iPhone)

I think they are still investigating why exactly the ccp banned their website. They will only give an announcement when they know everything about the current situation.

gavinye2018

Basic88 wrote:
DownsGameClub wrote:
Considering this is regarding a matter about what scratchers are posting (ie “contacterais matters”) they’ll most likely make a statement soon. We do need to give it time though.

(Sent from my iPhone)
I think they are still investigating why exactly the ccp banned their website. They will only give an announcement when they know everything about the current situation.

Why I feel like there’s so many people hate China/Chinese people.

Basic88

gavinye2018 wrote:
Why I feel like there’s so many people hate China/Chinese people.

The reason why I said the ccp did it is because the ccp are the ones that decide to block websites in their country.

--Explosion--

gavinye2018 wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
DownsGameClub wrote:
Considering this is regarding a matter about what scratchers are posting (ie “contacterais matters”) they’ll most likely make a statement soon. We do need to give it time though.

(Sent from my iPhone)
I think they are still investigating why exactly the ccp banned their website. They will only give an announcement when they know everything about the current situation.
Why I feel like there’s so many people hate China/Chinese people.

It's racist but I think because COVID originated in China so people think it's all their fault.

KlixKlox

ST should read this.
THIS COMES AFTER EVERY POSTS

Basic88

KlixKlox wrote:
ST should read this.
THIS COMES AFTER EVERY POSTS

They did.

KlixKlox

Basic88 wrote:
KlixKlox wrote:
ST should read this.
THIS COMES AFTER EVERY POSTS
They did.

oops: redirect the message about reading to thinking brb

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