Why do so many generic platformers get top loved?

k9chelsea2

HTML-Fan wrote:
k9chelsea2 wrote:
I can create a generic platformer in half an hour its actually so simple all you need to know is simple variable logic and some logic on motion blocks and thats it.
Yeah. Making a pen engine is also not that hard, only one day, but mostly it's not even that.

ikr, Imma try make a platformer in JS and HTML and then compare it to scratch

HTML-Fan

Basic88 wrote:
HTML-Fan wrote:
k9chelsea2 wrote:
I can create a generic platformer in half an hour its actually so simple all you need to know is simple variable logic and some logic on motion blocks and thats it.
Yeah. Making a pen engine is also not that hard, only one day, but mostly it's not even that.
Yes, when you understand how it's easy.

I mean, one day! That's more then enough for some hitbox math. But those are rare too, people just design levels. And they're often bad at doing it.

k9chelsea2

HTML-Fan wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
HTML-Fan wrote:
k9chelsea2 wrote:
I can create a generic platformer in half an hour its actually so simple all you need to know is simple variable logic and some logic on motion blocks and thats it.
Yeah. Making a pen engine is also not that hard, only one day, but mostly it's not even that.
Yes, when you understand how it's easy.
I mean, one day! That's more then enough for some hitbox math. But those are rare too, people just design levels. And they're often bad at doing it.

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HTML-Fan

k9chelsea2 wrote:
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Ooof, those platformers which are only about the levels. I really dislike them. The level design is mostly poor and already done multiple times. And I also don't like those one-screen platformers too much, you're just not able to build a level really large. And those coded levels … arrrgh! Games which don't execute using a list make me mad.

Last edited by HTML-Fan (July 27, 2020 16:25:12)

RL1123

HTML-Fan wrote:
Paddle2See wrote:
Remember that the top loved and top remixed rows are pretty much entirely just about popularity - not about “quality”, however you want to define that.
Well, the remix bar is pretty much always full of garbage, I almost never look at it. It just says how remixable a project is - one of the things I really don't care about. But top loved, that's an entirely different thing. Top loved means that it's popular, and how should your project get popular without being good?

Griffpatch's getting over it was in the top remixed…

colinmacc

BearSlothCoding wrote:
BobzGamesAlt wrote:
The “Projects loved by Scratchers I'm following” pane has taken the place of the explore tab for me, because it's the only area on this website not infested by platformers.
It kind of has for me too, except the people I'm following are usually not interested in the same things I am so I rarely find good things there. I've basically given up on finding projects I like at this point.

One would question why you are following them then, why not follow people who are interested in similar things to you?

To answer the original question, I guess they are popular because they are popular! Can't really complain about what people like, just keep on doing what makes you happy, and you'll find an audience that appreciates you

DipLeChip

its because little kids dont understand the meaning of originality and quality and it has plagued the site shunning actual good games in favour of something i can make in 5 minutes

BearSlothCoding

colinmacc wrote:
BearSlothCoding wrote:
BobzGamesAlt wrote:
The “Projects loved by Scratchers I'm following” pane has taken the place of the explore tab for me, because it's the only area on this website not infested by platformers.
It kind of has for me too, except the people I'm following are usually not interested in the same things I am so I rarely find good things there. I've basically given up on finding projects I like at this point.

One would question why you are following them then, why not follow people who are interested in similar things to you?

Just because I'm not interested in MAPs and art does not mean the creator is not a nice person. Just because I used to be interested in a certain type of project doesn't mean I still am, and it also doesn't mean that I have the heart to unfollow them for nearly no reason.

colinmacc

BearSlothCoding wrote:
colinmacc wrote:
BearSlothCoding wrote:
BobzGamesAlt wrote:
The “Projects loved by Scratchers I'm following” pane has taken the place of the explore tab for me, because it's the only area on this website not infested by platformers.
It kind of has for me too, except the people I'm following are usually not interested in the same things I am so I rarely find good things there. I've basically given up on finding projects I like at this point.

One would question why you are following them then, why not follow people who are interested in similar things to you?
Just because I'm not interested in MAPs and art does not mean the creator is not a nice person. Just because I used to be interested in a certain type of project doesn't mean I still am, and it also doesn't mean that I have the heart to unfollow them for nearly no reason.

All fair points, I was just curious…

LegoManiac04

[deleted because I don't feel my opinion is welcome, and I can't do anything right because I strongly believe in something and I apparently am, and at this point I feel like I am, acting like an unconstructive jerk]

Last edited by LegoManiac04 (July 29, 2020 03:10:57)

Super_Scratch_Bros20

I'd like to point out that many of these users are new to making platformers, as I've noticed. The ones who aren't new to them have much unused potential that can be used to create something great.

I don't want to touch too much on this in order to prevent naming and shaming / hurting someone's feelings. I'll just say that users who make these must think deeply about what they've created and edify it. Everyone has potential, but some are unwilling to apply it.

MrFluffyPenguins

Just ignore it if you don't like it, and let people make the projects they want to make, without having their work called ‘generic’ or ‘bad’, or people saying it doesn't deserve its fame.

ignoring something doesn't solve the issue

if we said that to every project, that means inappropriate projects would be allowed, because if you don't like it, just ignore it.

EmEm317

people probably love platformers so much because if they're good, they took a lot of code.

qrcool

EmEm317 wrote:
people probably love platformers so much because if they're good, they took a lot of code.

The thing is, a lot of people use engines. The code is not theirs, it took a few seconds to remix it or backpack the sprites, then they just change up the art a little so it has a color theme.

fdreerf

LegoManiac04 wrote:
fdreerf wrote:
Just ignore it if you don't like it, and let people make the projects they want to make, without having their work called ‘generic’ or ‘bad’, or people saying it doesn't deserve its fame.
That's how narcissism develops.

It's like asking a herd of cows why they like to eat grass. They just do.
Oh, so it's okay to be disrespectful? It's okay to call people's work “generic” or “bad”? Last time I checked, it's not.
Be constructive.
When commenting on others' projects, say something you like about it and offer suggestions.

LegoManiac04

fdreerf wrote:
LegoManiac04 wrote:
fdreerf wrote:
Just ignore it if you don't like it, and let people make the projects they want to make, without having their work called ‘generic’ or ‘bad’, or people saying it doesn't deserve its fame.
That's how narcissism develops.

It's like asking a herd of cows why they like to eat grass. They just do.
Oh, so it's okay to be disrespectful? It's okay to call people's work “generic” or “bad”? Last time I checked, it's not.
Be constructive.
When commenting on others' projects, say something you like about it and offer suggestions.

Nevermind, read it wrong.
Nice to see my opinion isn't welcome here. I'll see myself out.

Last edited by LegoManiac04 (July 29, 2020 03:05:38)

BearSlothCoding

LegoManiac04 wrote:
BearSlothCoding wrote:
k9chelsea2 wrote:
Generic platformers don't teach people a lot despite what people say
It teaches them how to backpack and use the fill tool. Is that enough?
People can remix projects if they want. Even if it's a minor change.

I'm going to be constructive here and say something that you should do when responding to posts you don't agree with; read and re-read the post you're responding to before saying anything. I never said that's a bad thing, and that it shouldn't be allowed. I said it does teach them things, I just implied that they're not the best things to learn. I am sure that you will agree that it would be more beneficial to learn how to make a game of your own than to learn how to use the fill tool on someone else's.

k9chelsea2

EmEm317 wrote:
people probably love platformers so much because if they're good, they took a lot of code.

the thing is , they don't take a lot of code they are too easy to make, I can make one in half-hour

Last edited by k9chelsea2 (July 29, 2020 08:08:20)

jaguar1501

k9chelsea2 wrote:
EmEm317 wrote:
people probably love platformers so much because if they're good, they took a lot of code.
the thing is , they don't take a lot of code they are too easy to make, I can make one in half-hour

Maybe you can, but some beginners can't.

HTML-Fan

jaguar1501 wrote:
k9chelsea2 wrote:
EmEm317 wrote:
people probably love platformers so much because if they're good, they took a lot of code.
the thing is , they don't take a lot of code they are too easy to make, I can make one in half-hour
Maybe you can, but some beginners can't.

When I think about it, you're right. Real beginners don't know how to download and upload engines. /s

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