a finish unless block

DarthVader4Life

HTML-Fan wrote:
Okay, my workaround does exactly that.

no, no it doesn't. you forget that the workaround you are currently saying would work wouldn't do everything the OP wants.

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But at the point when the condition becomes true the code will stop and continue! That's exactly the thing he wants. If it's already true when you start it, it will stop immidiately, if it never happens then it will never stop.
And really, if the workaround is just almost perfect or has the right idea but a little mistake, then fix it yourself. I'm more or less done with this topic.

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DarthVader4Life

HTML-Fan wrote:
But at the point when the condition becomes true the code will stop and continue! That's exactly the thing he wants. If it's already true when you start it, it will stop immidiately, if it never happens then it will never stop.
And really, if the workaround is just almost perfect or has the right idea but a little mistake, then fix it yourself. I'm more or less done with this topic.

why does everyone use the word stop, it should be skip.
anyway, it may do all the scenarios, but at one major drawback, it'd stop everything else in the sprite. and yes, the continue broadcast would start it up again, but that makes it to where you'd have a lot more code than required. the perfect workaround won't exist unless your stop script x block gets implemented, so no, there's not a perfect workaround (yet?) for what the OP wants.

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He could just make a sepatare sprite for this (even clone one) or use non-blocking code like I do and how it works the best.

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DarthVader4Life

HTML-Fan wrote:
He could just make a sepatare sprite for this (even clone one) or use non-blocking code like I do and how it works the best.

I fail to see how that would make it a perfect workaround.

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Perfect means the perfect possible workaround, not a perfectly easy one.

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DarthVader4Life

HTML-Fan wrote:
Perfect means the perfect possible workaround, not a perfectly easy one.

ik, but it's not perfect.

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Basic88

Uh…I don't understand. Could you please explain more? We don't know what your talking about.

finish unless <> {

} :: control

would work a lot like

repeat until <>

end

if that's what your aiming for.

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DarthVader4Life

Basic88 wrote:
Uh…I don't understand. Could you please explain more? We don't know what your talking about.
finish unless <> {

} :: control
would work a lot like
repeat until <>

end
if that's what your aiming for.

no, no, it wouldn't.

finish unless <> {

} :: control

isn't a loop. and read post 222, that should clear up on what it does.

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jaguar1501

Basic88 wrote:
Uh…I don't understand. Could you please explain more? We don't know what your talking about.
finish unless <> {

} :: control
would work a lot like
repeat until <>

end
if that's what your aiming for.

They've pointed out that it's not a loop- it's a block that would work kind of like

stop [all v]unless <...>::control
...

So, stop all unless a certain condition is true. If said condition is not true, the project would stop (or ‘finish’). However, if the condition is true, it would run the code underneath the finish unless block. Does that make sense?

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DarthVader4Life

jaguar1501 wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
Uh…I don't understand. Could you please explain more? We don't know what your talking about.
finish unless <> {

} :: control
would work a lot like
repeat until <>

end
if that's what your aiming for.
They've pointed out that it's not a loop- it's a block that would work kind of like
stop [all v]unless <...>
...
So, stop all unless a certain condition is true. If said condition is not true, the project would stop (or ‘finish’). However, if the condition is true, it would run the code underneath the finish unless block. Does that make sense?

no, no it wouldn't. just read post 222 and that should be what the suggested block does.

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jaguar1501

DarthVader4Life wrote:
jaguar1501 wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
Uh…I don't understand. Could you please explain more? We don't know what your talking about.
finish unless <> {

} :: control
would work a lot like
repeat until <>

end
if that's what your aiming for.
They've pointed out that it's not a loop- it's a block that would work kind of like
stop [all v]unless <...>
...
So, stop all unless a certain condition is true. If said condition is not true, the project would stop (or ‘finish’). However, if the condition is true, it would run the code underneath the finish unless block. Does that make sense?
no, no it wouldn't. just read post 222 and that should be what the suggested block does.

Well, yes, yes it would, because that's what the OP said. I just used the Scratchblocks they used to explain it.

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HTML-Fan

I just think that the block doesnÄt makes sense because it's too specific. A break block makes sense and a stop script x block makes sense, because both are way mor universal.

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jaguar1501

Guys, the OP said that it would work like this (quoted directly from their post):

finish unless <[monkeys] = [3]> ::control
set [dogs v] to [7] ::variables
set [monkeys v] to [3] ::variables
set [oof v] to [2] ::variables
end
ask [] and wait ::sensing

(it looks different because I assigned sections to the blocks that were previously red)
So, the project would end unless there were 3 monkeys (monkeys are an example). If there were 3 monkeys, it would continue to set the dogs to 7, the monkeys to 3, etc.

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DarthVader4Life

HTML-Fan wrote:
I just think that the block doesnÄt makes sense because it's too specific. A break block makes sense and a stop script x block makes sense, because both are way mor universal.

why do you blame it getting misunderstood on what it does, not how it was explained?

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jaguar1501 wrote:
Guys, the OP said that it would work like this (quoted directly from their post):
finish unless <[monkeys] = [3]> ::control
set [dogs v] to [7] ::variables
set [monkeys v] to [3] ::variables
set [oof v] to [2] ::variables
end
ask [] and wait ::sensing
(it looks different because I assigned sections to the blocks that were previously red)
So, the project would end unless there were 3 monkeys (monkeys are an example). If there were 3 monkeys, it would continue to set the dogs to 7, the monkeys to 3, etc.

it'd be the script SKIPPING.

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HTML-Fan

In this special case, you can just if the set oof.

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DarthVader4Life

jaguar1501 wrote:
DarthVader4Life wrote:
jaguar1501 wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
Uh…I don't understand. Could you please explain more? We don't know what your talking about.
finish unless <> {

} :: control
would work a lot like
repeat until <>

end
if that's what your aiming for.
They've pointed out that it's not a loop- it's a block that would work kind of like
stop [all v]unless <...>
...
So, stop all unless a certain condition is true. If said condition is not true, the project would stop (or ‘finish’). However, if the condition is true, it would run the code underneath the finish unless block. Does that make sense?
no, no it wouldn't. just read post 222 and that should be what the suggested block does.
Well, yes, yes it would, because that's what the OP said. I just used the Scratchblocks they used to explain it.

you interpenetrated it that way, it preforms a skip, not a stop

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HTML-Fan

DarthVader4Life wrote:
it preforms a skip, not a stop

That are two awesome words for the same thing. If you skip it, then you stop the subscript.

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DarthVader4Life

HTML-Fan wrote:
DarthVader4Life wrote:
it preforms a skip, not a stop
That are two awesome words for the same thing. If you skip it, then you stop the subscript.

stop is generally interpenetrated as

stop [ v]

however skip is generally interpenetrated as not preforming an action(s) and going onto another action(s).

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