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Note: Please do not suggest things here! This topic is not a list of suggestions. It is an informational topic that tells you why they aren't allowed.

Note 2: Thanks for the many, many “reporting to be stickied” reports; thinking my topic is good enough to be a sticky really makes me feel great! However, I have to inform you that such a topic is rejected (read the comments). Ultimately, it was linked to in one of the stickies, which also helps greatly.

—–GENERAL INFORMATION—–


I've seen users making lists of suggestions. Unfortunately, there is no place that indicates that you can't have lists of suggestions. I've created this topic to provide information on this.

Lists of suggestions are not allowed.The reason why is so each topic is focused on one point, not any more. Lists tend to centralize around one suggestion. Also, if one suggestion is rejected/duplicate and one isn't, would you close it, or not? The only solution is for a Scratch Team member to fix it, which isn't a thing they can do on a regular basis.

Your suggestion will not be implemented if it is in a list. Instead, try putting one suggestion in each topic!

—–Q/A—–


This is to clarify confusion on different forms of lists. If someone is breaking the rules with lists, feel free to quote this if you wish.

TABLE OF CONTENTS


1. CLOSELY RELATED SUGGESTIONS

1.1 What if the suggestions are closely related?
1.2 What would count as “closely related” suggestions?
1.3 What if I made a list of suggestions for Scratch 4.0? They're all for Scratch 4.0, so they're similar!

2. ACCEPTABLE LIST TOPICS

2.1 What about the Suggestions Directory? Why is it allowed?
2.2 What about The Official List of Rejected Suggestions? Why is it allowed?
2.3 What about Sigton's Constructive Recommendations On How to Respond to and Make Suggestions! Why is it allowed?
2.4 What about Scratch Design Goals? Why is it allowed?

3. OTHER LISTS

3.1 Are topics to give ideas for suggestions allowed?
3.2 What if I make a topic that allows users to make their own suggestions?
3.3 I still don't get it. Why aren't lists of suggestions allowed?
3.4 What if I made a list of suggestions to NOT add?


1. CLOSELY RELATED SUGGESTIONS

1.1 What if the suggestions are closely related?

If the suggestions in the list are closely related, you can make a list. That's because it can't centralize around one suggestion if they're all similar. For example, you could make a

stop timer ::sensing

and

start timer ::sensing

in one topic.

(That's just an example. Don't actually make that suggestion; it would be a duplicate topic!)

1.2 What would count as “closely related” suggestions?

pause project ::control

resume project ::control

Those are so closely alike that they go together.

“Changing usernames”
“Snip inactive usernames”

Those don't exactly go together like the above list of suggestions.

(Those are just examples. The first two are duplicates, and the last two are rejected, so please don't suggest them!)

1.3 What if I made a list of suggestions for Scratch 4.0? They're all for Scratch 4.0, so they're similar!

Not exactly. Any suggestions as of now will be a part of 3.0. But, the update that they are in will not make them similar. It's what's in the updates that counts! Regardless of what update they're in, if the suggestions don't seem to go together, then the topic will be closed.

Also, it may be good to note that Scratch 4.0 won't be out for a long time. The reason Scratch 3.0 came out was to work around the closure of Adobe Flash Player this December. Unless HTML5 closes soon, there won't be a Scratch 4.0 in the foreseeable future. The Scratch Team is still working on 3.0 and had not even thought about a Scratch 4.0 yet.

2. ACCEPTABLE LIST TOPICS


2.1 What about the Suggestions Directory? Why is it allowed?

The Suggestions Directory isn't a list of topics for the Scratch Team to implement; it is a list of topics so that you can look to see whether your topic is a duplicate. It is not the “list of suggestions” that I am referring to.

(Don't create your own Suggestions Directory, though, as you would be creating a duplicate of that topic!)

Note: This includes a directory for any kind of topic, whether you have a lot, or even just one. @bigpuppy and @LegoManiac04 have decided to take that responsibility instead.

2.2 What about The Official List of Rejected Suggestions? Why is it allowed?

That topic exists to check to see if your suggestion has been previously rejected, and so that you can cite a clear reason why a topic is rejected in case it gets suggested. It is not a list of suggestions to implement.

(Don't create your own list of rejected suggestions, though, as you would be creating a duplicate of that topic!)

2.3 What about Sigton's Constructive Recommendations On How to Respond to and Make Suggestions! Why is it allowed?

That's not a list of suggestions for the Scratch Team to implement. That is a set of recommendations to the users who use the Suggestions forums. That is a different type of suggestion, and it's come in much help in the past and present.

(Don't create your own recommendations topic, though, as you would be creating a duplicate of that topic!)

2.4 What about Scratch Design Goals? Why is it allowed?

That's not a list of suggestions for the Scratch Team to implement. That is a list of ways to make suggestions and to give feedback about those suggestions. Although the topic is old, it is still true, useful, and taken for granted, so don't forget its significance! Take a closer look at it if you want.

(Don't create your own design goals topic, though, as you would be creating a duplicate of that topic!)

3. OTHER LISTS


3.1 Are topics to give ideas for suggestions allowed?

No. Each suggestion should be your own, original idea. If you have a good idea on how to improve Scratch, then suggest it, rather than making a topic with example suggestion ideas.

3.2 What if I make a topic that allows users to make their own suggestions?

That's the entire purpose of the Suggestions forums, where you make your own suggestions. There is no need to duplicate that in any way. Plus, your suggestion will get more attention in its own topic, rather than it being in another one, and it will be less likely to be implemented by the Scratch Team.

3.3 I still don't get it. Why aren't lists of suggestions allowed?

Lots of good points get scattered across the forums, and they may not see your good points if they are in a separate topic.

If you still don't get it (unnamed user had a bit of a struggle grasping it), allow me to give you an illustration:

Let's say that someone made a suggestion to make the Scratch forum blocks 3.0.

One user says “No support; it doesn't matter how they look”.

On a different topic, another user says, "Support; some blocks from Scratch 3.0 (like extensions) didn't appear in 2.0, and therefore aren't part of the [scratchblocks] plugin".

The Scratch Team may not see the second valid point, and may end up rejecting the suggestion because of the first user's point.

To keep the conversation in one place, please only make one suggestion per topic, unless the suggestions are closely related.

(Please don't make a suggestion to ask for Scratch 3.0 [scratchblocks] extension, as that would be a duplicate topic!)

3.4 What if I made a list of suggestions to NOT add?

A suggestion, by definition, is an idea or plan put forward for consideration. You should not make topics to criticize other suggestions. As said very straightforwardly here, the Suggestions Forums are about giving suggestions, and not “anti-suggestions”.

Instead of focusing on the negativity of a topic, try focusing on how to make it better. Explaining politely the downsides and trying to fix it in a constructive way is a great way to use the Suggestions Forums.

——————————————————————————————————————————————————–

-Credits-


Thanks to DOGE_MANY_SCRATCH for inspiring the giant “games” sign!

Thanks to @Paddle2See* and @swiftrush into the inspiration of adding this to the Guide to the Suggestions Forums!

Last edited by Super_Scratch_Bros20 (Sept. 16, 2020 03:05:41)


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BearSlothCoding
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Great guide! However, you usually don't make it an ITopic, the ST does.

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Wyan100
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I would request this to be stickied but I don't know how or whether I have the power to do so.

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KittyFireSt0rm
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Nice guide!!

I'd report it to be stickied if there weren't so many stickies already

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Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Bump, and I've updated the Q/A.

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Nice! I have been seeing a decent amount of lists of suggestions recently, so I reported to be stickied!

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Super_Scratch_Bros20
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KittyFireSt0rm wrote:

Nice guide!!

I'd report it to be stickied if there weren't so many stickies already

SDS Feedback was recently removed, so I guess that we have an open slot.

It's your choice to report it to be stickied, though.

Last edited by Super_Scratch_Bros20 (June 19, 2020 16:45:03)


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Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Bump!

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| Monarchy of Moist Topic | The Underrated Studio |









SSB20 became a baker and is looking for anyone who can taste test a new food, a rick-roll. It's tasty!

Like the rick-roll? No? Fine…Try my pie.

I dare you to watch this with a straight face the entire time.

Still no? Fine… I give up.

This is now exposed.
Nambaseking01
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KittyFireSt0rm wrote:

Nice guide!!

I'd report it to be stickied if there weren't so many stickies already

There are two more stickies in the New Scratchers forum than this one, so it doesn't really matter. Just report it if you want it stickied, and we'll see what the Scratch Team says

Anyways, great guide! I've been seeing a great increase in the amount of list suggestions, so this would really help.
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Nambaseking01 wrote:

KittyFireSt0rm wrote:

Nice guide!!

I'd report it to be stickied if there weren't so many stickies already

There are two more stickies in the New Scratchers forum than this one, so it doesn't really matter. Just report it if you want it stickied, and we'll see what the Scratch Team says

Anyways, great guide! I've been seeing a great increase in the amount of list suggestions, so this would really help.

Alrighty then I just reported it to be stickied then

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BUMP!

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| Monarchy of Moist Topic | The Underrated Studio |









SSB20 became a baker and is looking for anyone who can taste test a new food, a rick-roll. It's tasty!

Like the rick-roll? No? Fine…Try my pie.

I dare you to watch this with a straight face the entire time.

Still no? Fine… I give up.

This is now exposed.
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Things that go BUMP in the night

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| Monarchy of Moist Topic | The Underrated Studio |









SSB20 became a baker and is looking for anyone who can taste test a new food, a rick-roll. It's tasty!

Like the rick-roll? No? Fine…Try my pie.

I dare you to watch this with a straight face the entire time.

Still no? Fine… I give up.

This is now exposed.
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Bump, and updated the Q/A.

I am running out of ways to rip off @Za-Chary*'s signature
Hey! I'm an AI creator, sprite ripper and artist, Shovel Knight fan, Mega Man fan, Star Wars fan, pizza lover, cutscene and speech designer, and gaming enthusiast. My nickname is SSB20. Be moist , and what's a stick?
| SSB20 Fan Club | ᴍᴏɴᴀʀᴄʜʏ ᴏғ ᴍᴏɪsᴛ sᴛᴜᴅɪᴏ | Lists of Suggestions | Playability |
| Monarchy of Moist Topic | The Underrated Studio |









SSB20 became a baker and is looking for anyone who can taste test a new food, a rick-roll. It's tasty!

Like the rick-roll? No? Fine…Try my pie.

I dare you to watch this with a straight face the entire time.

Still no? Fine… I give up.

This is now exposed.
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Since it's clearly not getting stickied, let me get a shot at reporting it to be iTopic'd.

I am running out of ways to rip off @Za-Chary*'s signature
Hey! I'm an AI creator, sprite ripper and artist, Shovel Knight fan, Mega Man fan, Star Wars fan, pizza lover, cutscene and speech designer, and gaming enthusiast. My nickname is SSB20. Be moist , and what's a stick?
| SSB20 Fan Club | ᴍᴏɴᴀʀᴄʜʏ ᴏғ ᴍᴏɪsᴛ sᴛᴜᴅɪᴏ | Lists of Suggestions | Playability |
| Monarchy of Moist Topic | The Underrated Studio |









SSB20 became a baker and is looking for anyone who can taste test a new food, a rick-roll. It's tasty!

Like the rick-roll? No? Fine…Try my pie.

I dare you to watch this with a straight face the entire time.

Still no? Fine… I give up.

This is now exposed.
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

Since it's clearly not getting stickied, let me get a shot at reporting it to be iTopic'd.

That didn't work. Also, BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP!

I am running out of ways to rip off @Za-Chary*'s signature
Hey! I'm an AI creator, sprite ripper and artist, Shovel Knight fan, Mega Man fan, Star Wars fan, pizza lover, cutscene and speech designer, and gaming enthusiast. My nickname is SSB20. Be moist , and what's a stick?
| SSB20 Fan Club | ᴍᴏɴᴀʀᴄʜʏ ᴏғ ᴍᴏɪsᴛ sᴛᴜᴅɪᴏ | Lists of Suggestions | Playability |
| Monarchy of Moist Topic | The Underrated Studio |









SSB20 became a baker and is looking for anyone who can taste test a new food, a rick-roll. It's tasty!

Like the rick-roll? No? Fine…Try my pie.

I dare you to watch this with a straight face the entire time.

Still no? Fine… I give up.

This is now exposed.
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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SPEEEEEEEEEEEED BUMP!

I am running out of ways to rip off @Za-Chary*'s signature
Hey! I'm an AI creator, sprite ripper and artist, Shovel Knight fan, Mega Man fan, Star Wars fan, pizza lover, cutscene and speech designer, and gaming enthusiast. My nickname is SSB20. Be moist , and what's a stick?
| SSB20 Fan Club | ᴍᴏɴᴀʀᴄʜʏ ᴏғ ᴍᴏɪsᴛ sᴛᴜᴅɪᴏ | Lists of Suggestions | Playability |
| Monarchy of Moist Topic | The Underrated Studio |









SSB20 became a baker and is looking for anyone who can taste test a new food, a rick-roll. It's tasty!

Like the rick-roll? No? Fine…Try my pie.

I dare you to watch this with a straight face the entire time.

Still no? Fine… I give up.

This is now exposed.
garnetluvcookie
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I think suggestions are at its sticky limit.
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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garnetluvcookie wrote:

I think suggestions are at its sticky limit.

Really? Because SDS Feedback was recently removed.

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| Monarchy of Moist Topic | The Underrated Studio |









SSB20 became a baker and is looking for anyone who can taste test a new food, a rick-roll. It's tasty!

Like the rick-roll? No? Fine…Try my pie.

I dare you to watch this with a straight face the entire time.

Still no? Fine… I give up.

This is now exposed.
BosenChang
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This is very good. I am going to try to see if i can report it to get stickied.

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Sticky this!

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