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R4356th
Scratcher
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Proposing Own Projects

I believe allowing proposing own projects to be featured would be a good idea as it may be able to help make Scratchers popular since many users are not noticed, most users do not know about proposing projects or do not want to propose others' projects. It should be able to combat advertising slightly as well. Unpopular Scratchers should be able to get front-paged. However, a user would be able to propose once per month(this would be either by letting the curators manually checking if someone proposed in the past month or the system will block everyone from commenting on the PPTBF studio before a month has passed since commenting the last time.

Last edited by R4356th (May 3, 2020 13:10:45)

WindOctahedron
Scratcher
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Proposing Own Projects

If proposing your own projects was allowed, the studio would get flooded by users asking to add their projects, with comments that propose others' lost forever.
The rule also encourages looking for projects that others might enjoy, rather what only you enjoy, and altruism.

Last edited by WindOctahedron (April 30, 2020 17:44:05)

R4356th
Scratcher
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Proposing Own Projects

WindOctahedron wrote:

If proposing your own projects was allowed, the studio would get flooded by users asking to add their projects, with comments that propose others' lost forever.
I did think of a solution of that but forgot to mention it in the post. A user will be able to propose once per month.
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Proposing Own Projects

R4356th wrote:

WindOctahedron wrote:

If proposing your own projects was allowed, the studio would get flooded by users asking to add their projects, with comments that propose others' lost forever.
I did think of a solution of that but forgot to mention it in the post. A user will be able to propose once per month.
That would be hard to keep track of.

Hey, hey, this time it was an evil kumquat that ate the rest of my POST, not my signature this time!

Just kidding. I snipped it because people won't stop revolving around what I previously typed when the OP asked to stop.

Last edited by Super_Scratch_Bros20 (May 2, 2020 23:38:38)

WindOctahedron
Scratcher
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Proposing Own Projects

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

R4356th wrote:

WindOctahedron wrote:

If proposing your own projects was allowed, the studio would get flooded by users asking to add their projects, with comments that propose others' lost forever.
I did think of a solution of that but forgot to mention it in the post. A user will be able to propose once per month.
That would be hard to keep track of. Besides, many Scratchers don't know how time works.
When are children taught about days, months, weeks and years in America? I bet that it's earlier than at the age of 10.
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Proposing Own Projects

WindOctahedron wrote:

When are children taught about days, months, weeks and years in America? I bet that it's earlier than at the age of 10.

If you check the statistics, there are about 4 million Scratchers under the age of 10.

However, my most major concern is how the Scratch Team could keep up with a bunch of Scratchers' time limits until the next time they can propose a project to be featured.

Last edited by Super_Scratch_Bros20 (April 30, 2020 17:55:10)

WindOctahedron
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Proposing Own Projects

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

WindOctahedron wrote:

When are children taught about days, months, weeks and years in America? I bet that it's earlier than at the age of 10.

If you check the statistics, there are about 4 million Scratchers under the age of 10.
That's approximately only 7.3% of all the Scratchers, and 10 was only an estimate.
(Also, I'm sorry if I sounded rude to Americans.)
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Proposing Own Projects

WindOctahedron wrote:

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

WindOctahedron wrote:

When are children taught about days, months, weeks and years in America? I bet that it's earlier than at the age of 10.

If you check the statistics, there are about 4 million Scratchers under the age of 10.
That's approximately only 7.3% of all the Scratchers, and 10 was only an estimate.
(Also, I'm sorry if I sounded rude to Americans.)
Still about 4 million.

Either way, my main concern is how the Scratch Team could keep up with a bunch of Scratchers' time limits until the next time they can propose a project to be featured.
lisa_wolfgang
Scratcher
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Proposing Own Projects

The problem with proposing one's own project is that there is bias. And lots of it.

Even with a monthly or even yearly limit, if everyone took advantage of this, that would be over 50 million more suggested featured projects to sift through per year. Or month. *shudders*
--Explosion--
Scratcher
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Proposing Own Projects

R4356th wrote:

WindOctahedron wrote:

If proposing your own projects was allowed, the studio would get flooded by users asking to add their projects, with comments that propose others' lost forever.
I did think of a solution of that but forgot to mention it in the post. A user will be able to propose once per month.
What??! My 4 year old sister knows about how long a month is and how time works…
coder2045
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Proposing Own Projects

WindOctahedron wrote:

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

R4356th wrote:

WindOctahedron wrote:

If proposing your own projects was allowed, the studio would get flooded by users asking to add their projects, with comments that propose others' lost forever.
I did think of a solution of that but forgot to mention it in the post. A user will be able to propose once per month.
That would be hard to keep track of. Besides, many Scratchers don't know how time works.
When are children taught about days, months, weeks and years in America? I bet that it's earlier than at the age of 10.
For me it was about the age of 4 or 5 or something.

Last edited by coder2045 (May 3, 2020 00:17:45)

Peaceful_Dork
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Proposing Own Projects

I don't think this is a good idea.

First of all, i'm not sure you quite understand the purpose of featured projects is. It is made for bringing projects that may not be popular, but deserve more attention and show what Scratch is all about, onto the front page for all to see.

With this in mind, if we were allowed to suggest our own project, we have a standard of what we think of our projects. Most likely, we want our project(s) to be more popular; so instead of suggesting other user's projects, you are only thinking about yourself by saying “Hey, I think my project deserves to be featured!”, not “This project I found is under-rated and deserves more views”.
And if this were indeed allowed and your project got picked, you would get less joy. You know you suggested your project, and it was picked. But if a friend, or a stranger suggests it to be featured, you feel special and grateful.

Same with siblings, but even more problems arise. Say you have a lot of siblings that use Scratch. They could all suggest that a certain project be featured, and you probably have a higher chance of getting picked.

Regarding the 1-month limit of suggesting your own problems, the ST would probably get a ton of headaches.
The “Propose Project to be Featured” thing is a studio, right? So, the ST would have to
A) Specially program that studio to not allow the users to suggest things before the month is up,
B) Have the curators manually check and see if they suggested their own project in the past month,
Both of these options would be a major pain to implement, I imagine.

So due to all of these issues, no support.

Last edited by Peaceful_Dork (April 30, 2020 22:20:57)

R4356th
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Proposing Own Projects

--Explosion-- wrote:

R4356th wrote:

WindOctahedron wrote:

If proposing your own projects was allowed, the studio would get flooded by users asking to add their projects, with comments that propose others' lost forever.
I did think of a solution of that but forgot to mention it in the post. A user will be able to propose once per month.
What??! My 4 year old sister knows about how long a month is and how time works…
Yeah. (For me, it was 7)

lisa_wolfgang wrote:

The problem with proposing one's own project is that there is bias. And lots of it.
Even with a monthly or even yearly limit, if everyone took advantage of this, that would be over 50 million more suggested featured projects to sift through per year. Or month.
Do not you think the Scratch Team already annoyed with advertising already?

Peaceful_Dork wrote:

Regarding the 1-month limit of suggesting your own problems, the ST would probably get a ton of headaches.
The “Propose Project to be Featured” thing is a studio, right? So, the ST would have to
A) Specially program that studio to not allow the users to suggest things before the month is up,
B) Have the curators manually check and see if they suggested their own project in the past month,
Both of these options would be a major pain to implement, I imagine.
As for A, I do not understand why the Scratch Team would have to program a studio specially, please do show strong reasons. As for B, hmm, how many curators does that studio have now? 182, right? I am afraid the Scratch Team would have to say goodbye to most of the curators since they are too lazy and do not do what they are supposed to be doing; and take new curators, there are a lot of people who actually want to help out but are not recognised. The Scratch Team may introduce an applying system in the first place.

Nambaseking01
Scratcher
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Proposing Own Projects

Did you ever consider the fact that are 50 million people on Scratch? Even if the one month rule was applicable here, that would be almost everyday that thousands of Scratchers follow the rules.

Say a Scratcher proposes a project to be featured on the second of May, and then on the second of June they come back to propose another project. Some other person might do it on the third or first of May - and many people would probably do the same.

Even with your system, it's going to be hard to find the actual good projects.

[oof, just realized that everything I said has been said before - but these thoughts are original, don't accuse me ^^]

Last edited by Nambaseking01 (May 1, 2020 10:08:31)

R4356th
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Proposing Own Projects

Namebaseking01 wrote:

-snip-
I do not think I have to respond.
Nambaseking01
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Proposing Own Projects

R4356th wrote:

I do not think I have to respond.

Then why did you respond and why do you think you don't want to respond?
R4356th
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Proposing Own Projects

Nambaseking01 wrote:

R4356th wrote:

I do not think I have to respond.
Then why did you respond and why do you think you don't want to respond?
I mean I do not have to tell you something different then what I have said before, I just posted to remain polite. Does this make sense?
Nambaseking01
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Proposing Own Projects

R4356th wrote:

I mean I do not have to tell you something different then what I have said before, I just posted to remain polite. Does this make sense?

Well, I don't think I have to respond.

copycat
rein_animations
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Proposing Own Projects

I knew how time worked when I was 3
Nambaseking01
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Proposing Own Projects

rein_animations wrote:

I knew how time worked when I was 3

Which is irrelevant to the discussion.

Please don't bring up irrelevant conversations - you may do that in your post if you finished writing your original thoughts on the idea. Thanks!

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