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Lightnin
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

The day that Scratch 2.0 goes live, it will replace the current scratch.mit.edu website. That means that it needs to accept projects shared from Scratch 1.4. We want to test this to make sure it works well before release day, so we need your help!

Here's how:

1. Download this zipped text file: servers.txt.zip. This servers.txt file tells Scratch 1.4 to attempt to share projects to the beta site (http://beta.scratch.mit.edu) instead of the default site (http://scratch.mit.edu). (Feel free to check it out with a text editor, but be careful - Scratch 1.4 is really picky and won't accept the file if the spacing isn't exactly correct.)

2. Unzip the file and then copy the resulting servers.txt to the same directory as your Scratch 1.4 Scratch.image file. Usually, you can only do this if you have administrative permissions on the computer.

in Windows - 32 bit systems:
C:\Program Files\Scratch\servers.txt

in Windows - 64 bit systems:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Scratch\servers.txt

in Mac OS:
/Applications/Scratch 1.4/servers.txt

on Linux:
Ubuntu / Debian:
/usr/share/scratch/servers.txt
Fedora / Red Hat:
/usr/lib/scratch/servers.txt

3. Once you've put your servers.txt file in the correct location for your operation system, restart Scratch 1.4. Now try sharing a project as you normally would. Instead of going to the old (current) site, your project should show up on your profile page on http://beta.scratch.mit.edu.

4. Let us know if it worked by posting on this thread! If you run into trouble, check the troubleshooting section below. If that doesn't solve the problem, post here with as much detail about the problems as you can give, like:

Your operating system, with version: i.e. Windows 7
Error messages shown.

Remember, the first thing we need to do when we hear about a bug is try to make it happen on our computers. So try to give us an exact set of steps it takes to make the bug show up. Once we can make it happen here, we can squash it!

Thanks and Scratch On!

Troubleshooting:

I don't see the project I shared on my beta profile page.
Make sure you didn't edit the the servers.txt file. Scratch is very picky about formatting, like spaces and tabs and newlines, when it comes to servers.txt files. Also, check to see if the project is on the old site - if Scratch 1.4 can't read the servers.txt file, it'll send the project to the old site url.

I can't find where you said to put the file
The servers.txt file must go in the same folder as the Scratch.image. If you don't know where you downloaded Scratch to, try doing a full-computer search for “Scratch.image”.

What if I want to be able to share projects to the old site again?
Just delete the servers.txt file you copied into the same directory as your Scratch.image file. Scratch 1.4 will then start uploading to the default location again ( http://scratch.mit.edu). (And btw, after we release Scratch 2.0, you should delete this servers.txt file - you won't need it.

Last edited by Lightnin (April 25, 2013 20:33:36)

scimonster
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

Success!!

I found a post by Andresmh from 2007 explaining the syntax of servers.txt, so i did it, and it worked!
This is my file:
*share*	beta.scratch.mit.edu	/services/upload

PS: On Windows, it's C:/Program Files/Scratch/servers.txt

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Lightnin
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

scimonster wrote:

Success!!

I found a post by Andresmh from 2007 explaining the syntax of servers.txt, so i did it, and it worked!
This is my file:
*share*	beta.scratch.mit.edu	/services/upload

PS: On Windows, it's C:/Program Files/Scratch/servers.txt

Awesome! Thanks for testing.
Anyone else?
Also, let me know if you have suggestions on how to edit the above post to make it more clear / easier for people who are testing to understand.
scimonster
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

Edit: The servers.txt file linked in the first post has been updated - so you don't need to make your own as per instructions below. :) -Lightnin

I downloaded your servers.txt and it didn't work. I took a closer look, and it seemed to use spaces (32) instead of tabs (9). Your file is 11 bytes more than mine.
My file worked, both using the RPM-installed version, and the Windows-installed version, through WINE.

Does the file need to be zipped? It's an extra step for the user to unzip.

Also, forget what i said about executable permissions. It doesn't get in the way. It's what i said about your syntax error that did.

Perhaps add to the troubleshooting:
I can't find where you said to put the file
The servers.txt file must go in the same folder as the Scratch.image. If you don't know where you downloaded Scratch to, try doing a full-computer search for “Scratch.image”.

Last edited by Lightnin (April 24, 2013 18:48:44)


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Lightnin
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

scimonster wrote:

I downloaded your servers.txt and it didn't work. I took a closer look, and it seemed to use spaces (32) instead of tabs (9). Your file is 11 bytes more than mine.
My file worked, both using the RPM-installed version, and the Windows-installed version, through WINE.

Does the file need to be zipped? It's an extra step for the user to unzip.

Also, forget what i said about executable permissions. It doesn't get in the way. It's what i said about your syntax error that did.

Perhaps add to the troubleshooting:
I can't find where you said to put the file
The servers.txt file must go in the same folder as the Scratch.image. If you don't know where you downloaded Scratch to, try doing a full-computer search for “Scratch.image”.

Thanks! The zipping is mostly to make it easier to download. If you click a link to a text file, usually your browser will just display it instead of downloading it.
Lucario621
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

Lightnin wrote:

scimonster wrote:

I downloaded your servers.txt and it didn't work. I took a closer look, and it seemed to use spaces (32) instead of tabs (9). Your file is 11 bytes more than mine.
My file worked, both using the RPM-installed version, and the Windows-installed version, through WINE.

Does the file need to be zipped? It's an extra step for the user to unzip.

Also, forget what i said about executable permissions. It doesn't get in the way. It's what i said about your syntax error that did.

Perhaps add to the troubleshooting:
I can't find where you said to put the file
The servers.txt file must go in the same folder as the Scratch.image. If you don't know where you downloaded Scratch to, try doing a full-computer search for “Scratch.image”.

Thanks! The zipping is mostly to make it easier to download. If you click a link to a text file, usually your browser will just display it instead of downloading it.
Hmm, good point. I didn't think of that actually. (Sometimes I'm even annoyed when my browser tries to play an mp3 directly, rather than automatically downloading it like I would prefer. )
scimonster
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

I didn't actually try uploading with your new servers.txt, but i ran an md5sum against it, and it returned the same as the one i had. So i'll assume it works.

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Lightnin
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

Thanks for helping test, Scimonster and Lucario621! I'm moving this thread out to announcements now.
coinman
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

7734f
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

I seriously can't find my scratch.image file Any help? I searched my whole computer, and found nothing.

Lightnin
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

coinman wrote:

It worked! http://beta.scratch.mit.edu/projects/10117863/#editor
Awesome! Thanks for testing!! Can you ask your friends to try as well? The more successful tests, the more confident we can be!

7734f wrote:

I seriously can't find my scratch.image file Any help? I searched my whole computer, and found nothing.

Weird! Well if you have 1.4 installed on your machine, and it works, then it's definitely there.
Is it in one of the places described in the first post? That'd be the first place to check.

What OS do you have?

Last edited by Lightnin (April 24, 2013 01:46:39)

SFollis
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

awesome it works!!!!!! http://beta.scratch.mit.edu/projects/10117988/ is my project

vedkhandekar
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

It works! I have uploaded my project to the beta site with the help of the servers.txt file! When I clicked Ok for it to share it said:
Connecting to beta.scratch.mit.edu!
—————————————————————————————————————————–
Hey Scratch team, i love the new 2.0 version of scratch! Great job! Thank you for beta 2.0! (If you feel the same way, make this your signature and thank the scratch team!)

Last edited by vedkhandekar (April 24, 2013 05:48:35)


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legobob23o
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

I did it! I tried it twice, but I didn't think it was working because it just stayed on “data sent”, I tried uploading again, but it stayed like that again. The next morning, I tried it again, and the project shared at last. It said it was on scratch.mit.edu, not beta.scratch.mit.edu, so I went to my test account on 1.4, and the project wasn't there. I then went to 2.0 and the project was there! Though there were three of them as I realized I tried three times before I knew it worked. But I unshared the two duplicate ones.

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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

SFollis wrote:

awesome it works!!!!!! http://beta.scratch.mit.edu/projects/10117988/ is my project

Brilliant! Thanks for testing.

vedkhandekar wrote:

It works! I have uploaded my project to the beta site with the help of the servers.txt file! When I clicked Ok for it to share it said:
Connecting to beta.scratch.mit.edu!

Fantastic!

legobob23o wrote:

I did it! I tried it twice, but I didn't think it was working because it just stayed on “data sent”, I tried uploading again, but it stayed like that again. The next morning, I tried it again, and the project shared at last. It said it was on scratch.mit.edu, not beta.scratch.mit.edu, so I went to my test account on 1.4, and the project wasn't there. I then went to 2.0 and the project was there! Though there were three of them as I realized I tried three times before I knew it worked. But I unshared the two duplicate ones.

Ok that's good to know! So you are saying the share dialog box stayed on “data sent” and never cleared, but the projects did successfully share? How did you clear the “data sent” box, by shutting Scratch down?

Also - can you try this again with a really long sound recording - like a whole minute? I wonder if the problem you are seeing is due to the fact that your project has a sound file, which makes it kinda large.
Lightnin
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

Can people try sharing large projects (with big sound files and stuff?) I think they may be more of a challenge…
clearywalsh
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

Nice!! It worked! And IDK if this is how you're supposed to do it, but It didn't sound like it. I right clicked on scratch in my windows logo thingy, (IDK what to call it) Pressed properties, clicked on open file location, and just dragged in the unzipped file. That doesent sound like how you should do it, but it worked! The project Very nice job!

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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

it worked!!!
but i had to uninstall and reinstall scratch 1.4 then edit the spaces to tabs
and it worked but the first time i triedit just kept on saying data sent and wouldn't move on but the next time i tried the first test and
the one I just did appeared on the beta site

Last edited by sindybad (April 25, 2013 06:27:16)


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Lightnin
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

Can someone who is seeing the long “Data sent” message give us one of the projects you tried uploading?

Also! Please try uploading real-live project files - especially big ones! Actually, can someone try uploading a project that's normally too big for the old (current) site, and see what message you get (if any?) I tried it and got “Failed: Uknown reason.”

Last edited by Lightnin (April 24, 2013 19:01:26)

scimonster
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Please help test uploads to beta from Scratch 1.4!

clearywalsh wrote:

Nice!! It worked! And IDK if this is how you're supposed to do it, but It didn't sound like it. I right clicked on scratch in my windows logo thingy, (IDK what to call it) Pressed properties, clicked on open file location, and just dragged in the unzipped file. That doesent sound like how you should do it, but it worked! The project Very nice job!
That's a perfectly acceptable way to do it.
I'll try something with sounds soon…

EDIT: This good.

Last edited by scimonster (April 24, 2013 19:05:22)


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