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MegaApuTurkUltra
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

LastContinue wrote:

Do you have a Rift or a Vive and if the former how do I get mine to work

The sensors forward fine, but the Rift's USBs appear as 3 different USBs in the USB Forwarding thing and it's refusing to start the VM with all 3 forwarded, and then the Oculus Software doesn't work to work.
i have an index

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

(and i also pass through a dedicated USB card because windows likes to error when you use the normal USB passthrough mode)
so idk about other headsets but the index shows up as a hub with stuff on the hub (fairly straightforward i guess). So i tried using the usb passthough with the ID for the whole hub. It does the passthrough but then windows is like error: unknown device in the device manager (thank u again microsoft, 10/10 software. usb passthrough just works™ with linux guests)

so i got a pcie (x1) usb 3.0 card from bezosite for fairly cheap
then i just forward the whole card

as a side note, heck gaming-branded stuff tbh
the actual pcie x1 slots on my mobo get iommu grouped with the onboard ethernet and sata and a bunch of stuff, which is what i was trying to avoid by getting a separate usb card instead of just forwarding one of the onboard usb controllers
so i had to use the acs patch, which is not ideal but whatever
maybe someday we'll have consumer mobos that are more vfio-friendly

Last edited by MegaApuTurkUltra (Nov. 23, 2019 04:09:37)


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Wettining
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

Last time I tried booting Monjaro from my laptop, it took around 3 minutes, used ~600 mb of ram at idle (a lot more than my custom Windows which uses only 400), and i had to mess around with nVidia drivers for hours for optimus to work properly. In my experience, Windows Server 2016 has been a much better experience than both Windows 10 and any Linux distro since:
  • It uses barely any ram, if you configure it right
  • Has very tight security, since it's made for enterprise
  • Doesn't have any telemetry, if you set it up right
  • Has all the drivers and tools of regular windows 10, so everything just works^tm
  • and has incredible boot times, mine boots to desktop in 7 seconds off of a HDD

What benefits does Linux provide me as a developer and user that Windows does not?

Last edited by Wettining (Nov. 24, 2019 16:17:42)

LastContinue
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

Wettining wrote:

Last time I tried booting Monjaro from my laptop, it took around 3 minutes, used ~600 mb of ram at idle (a lot more than my custom Windows which uses only 400), and i had to mess around with nVidia drivers for hours for optimus to work properly. In my experience, Windows Server 2016 has been a much better experience than both Windows 10 and any Linux distro since:
  • It uses barely any ram, if you configure it right
  • Has very tight security, since it's made for enterprise
  • Doesn't have any telemetry, if you set it up right
  • Has all the drivers and tools of regular windows 10, so everything just works^tm
  • and has incredible boot times, mine boots to desktop in 7 seconds off of a HDD

What benefits does Linux provide me as a developer and user that Windows does not?
Manjaro boots very fast for me. From pressing power to login, it's about 30 seconds. RAM isn't an issue for me at all. I'm upgrading my system to have a total of 32GB soon:tm:. Nvidia drivers haven't caused me any troubles. I selected “proprietary” at install, and it just worked^tm. So did my Behringer Interface, and my Drawing Tablet (somewhat).

You mention Server 2016. I am not going to run this. I have no way to run it legally, and I assume you don't either. I don't support piracy, for the most part, and not at all when it comes to PC software.

Now on to your last question,
As a developer, you'll be able to bind against the FLOSS libcstd instead of Microsoft's proprietary kernel32, user32, gdi32 and msvcrt. The latter being a Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime dependency bakes in to all modern versions of Windows. Your code will never be truly “FLOSS” (FOSS, libre, however you want to call it) when targetted or compiled on Windows, as you have to bind and use non-free libraries.

Additionally, languages such as V-lang and OCaml don't have full Windows support, but support Linux fine.

As a User, the structure of the NT kernel is terrible, Linux is much more pleasant to configure, and is infinitely more customizable.

Perhaps you could roll your own LFS?

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Wettining
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

LastContinue wrote:

Wettining wrote:

Last time I tried booting Monjaro from my laptop, it took around 3 minutes, used ~600 mb of ram at idle (a lot more than my custom Windows which uses only 400), and i had to mess around with nVidia drivers for hours for optimus to work properly. In my experience, Windows Server 2016 has been a much better experience than both Windows 10 and any Linux distro since:
  • It uses barely any ram, if you configure it right
  • Has very tight security, since it's made for enterprise
  • Doesn't have any telemetry, if you set it up right
  • Has all the drivers and tools of regular windows 10, so everything just works^tm
  • and has incredible boot times, mine boots to desktop in 7 seconds off of a HDD

What benefits does Linux provide me as a developer and user that Windows does not?
Manjaro boots very fast for me. From pressing power to login, it's about 30 seconds. RAM isn't an issue for me at all. I'm upgrading my system to have a total of 32GB soon:tm:. Nvidia drivers haven't caused me any troubles. I selected “proprietary” at install, and it just worked^tm. So did my Behringer Interface, and my Drawing Tablet (somewhat).

You mention Server 2016. I am not going to run this. I have no way to run it legally, and I assume you don't either. I don't support piracy, for the most part, and not at all when it comes to PC software.

Now on to your last question,
As a developer, you'll be able to bind against the FLOSS libcstd instead of Microsoft's proprietary kernel32, user32, gdi32 and msvcrt. The latter being a Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime dependency bakes in to all modern versions of Windows. Your code will never be truly “FLOSS” (FOSS, libre, however you want to call it) when targetted or compiled on Windows, as you have to bind and use non-free libraries.

Additionally, languages such as V-lang and OCaml don't have full Windows support, but support Linux fine.

As a User, the structure of the NT kernel is terrible, Linux is much more pleasant to configure, and is infinitely more customizable.

Perhaps you could roll your own LFS?
But see, Windows Server has the Hyper-V hypervisor which can run Linux containers so if I needed to run any linux-only software I could do so with ease. Also, you can get Windows Server 2016 evaluation for 180 days free off of Microsoft's website. And my copy of Windows Server was licensed by my college *shrug*

I'll have to check out LFS though
LastContinue
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

Wettining wrote:

LastContinue wrote:

Wettining wrote:

Last time I tried booting Monjaro from my laptop, it took around 3 minutes, used ~600 mb of ram at idle (a lot more than my custom Windows which uses only 400), and i had to mess around with nVidia drivers for hours for optimus to work properly. In my experience, Windows Server 2016 has been a much better experience than both Windows 10 and any Linux distro since:
  • It uses barely any ram, if you configure it right
  • Has very tight security, since it's made for enterprise
  • Doesn't have any telemetry, if you set it up right
  • Has all the drivers and tools of regular windows 10, so everything just works^tm
  • and has incredible boot times, mine boots to desktop in 7 seconds off of a HDD

What benefits does Linux provide me as a developer and user that Windows does not?
Manjaro boots very fast for me. From pressing power to login, it's about 30 seconds. RAM isn't an issue for me at all. I'm upgrading my system to have a total of 32GB soon:tm:. Nvidia drivers haven't caused me any troubles. I selected “proprietary” at install, and it just worked^tm. So did my Behringer Interface, and my Drawing Tablet (somewhat).

You mention Server 2016. I am not going to run this. I have no way to run it legally, and I assume you don't either. I don't support piracy, for the most part, and not at all when it comes to PC software.

Now on to your last question,
As a developer, you'll be able to bind against the FLOSS libcstd instead of Microsoft's proprietary kernel32, user32, gdi32 and msvcrt. The latter being a Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime dependency bakes in to all modern versions of Windows. Your code will never be truly “FLOSS” (FOSS, libre, however you want to call it) when targetted or compiled on Windows, as you have to bind and use non-free libraries.

Additionally, languages such as V-lang and OCaml don't have full Windows support, but support Linux fine.

As a User, the structure of the NT kernel is terrible, Linux is much more pleasant to configure, and is infinitely more customizable.

Perhaps you could roll your own LFS?
But see, Windows Server has the Hyper-V hypervisor which can run Linux containers so if I needed to run any linux-only software I could do so with ease. Also, you can get Windows Server 2016 evaluation for 180 days free off of Microsoft's website. And my copy of Windows Server was licensed by my college *shrug*

I'll have to check out LFS though
Ah, so not pirated. That's fine then.

Yeah, no, if you're happy with Windows Server, I'd say stick with it (or Virtualise it under a real barebones LFS ). It's the telemetry I wanted to get away from, and Windows Server isn't an option for me.

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MegaApuTurkUltra
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

Wettining wrote:

In my experience, Windows Server 2016 has been a much better experience than both Windows 10 and any Linux distro since:
i don't really think server editions of operating systems are the right thing to run on a daily driver computer

Wettining wrote:

It uses barely any ram, if you configure it right
if you want to go minimal, there are like arch linux setups that use like 200MB of RAM or less, even on modern hardware

Wettining wrote:

Has very tight security, since it's made for enterprise
here just hover over this file for me real quick
there's a crafted PE someone made where just hovering over it bluescreens because of some internal memory corruption or something
i also didn't meme this bug because it's the worst one i know of or something, it's just the latest one i've heard of in the security news right now :P


Wettining wrote:

Doesn't have any telemetry, if you set it up right
linux doesn't have telemetry at all, whether you set it up right or wrong

Wettining wrote:

Has all the drivers and tools of regular windows 10, so everything just works^tm
i used the power of linux to help revive an old usb camera once. the official drivers were XP-only or something, and wouldn't install on windows 10. linux had support out of the box, no need to install anything

Wettining wrote:

and has incredible boot times, mine boots to desktop in 7 seconds off of a HDD
really? doesn't most UEFI firmware these days already take like 15-30 seconds just on its own? (we can thank microsoft yet again for this one)
having some doubts

Wettining wrote:

What benefits does Linux provide me as a developer and user that Windows does not?
- package manager (tired of googling for stuff? and clicking on ads? no more!)
- unix shell environment (i can't do anything in cmd or powershell, personally)
- mostly related to having a proper shell environment, but like your PATH and stuff isn't annoying and is mostly set up for you. like when you install stuff (with the package manager!) you can just run it on the command line right away, no need to fiddle with the path manually, or have a special installer that fiddles with it for you
- easy to get your software toolchains (this ties into having a package manager too, but also you don't need to install 10GB of visual studio for 2 hours just to compile some C++. apt install build-essential)
- lots of IDE choices work on linux (gnome builder! kdevelop! intellij stuff if you want! vs code, if you're into that! just plain vim or emacs!!)
- it's highly moddable (because it's all open source ) this means things like i can configure low-level networking in ways that are just impossible to do on windows sometimes. shell extensions on gnome (like stuff that changes how the taskbar and panels and stuff work on the desktop) are first-class citizens and officially supported, rather than the windows 3rd party mod style of jankily patching stuff in system32 and hoping it works. custom start menu? yes. weather panel? absolutely. deep integration with android phones via kde connect? you got it. you can even make your own (without magic)!
- not really about development but tbh, it looks pretty. i use gnome with matcha-dark and papirus icons (yes this is stolen from manjaro, don't @ me) and aaaaaa this is like 10 times better than how windows looks

anyway i'm not entirely sure how serious your post was, but
linux!! try it!

edit

Wettining wrote:

But see, Windows Server has the Hyper-V hypervisor which can run Linux containers so if I needed to run any linux-only software I could do so with ease.
but see, linux has qemu/kvm (with pretty frontends) so you can run any windows-only software with ease

Last edited by MegaApuTurkUltra (Nov. 24, 2019 23:32:24)


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Wettining
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

Wettining wrote:

In my experience, Windows Server 2016 has been a much better experience than both Windows 10 and any Linux distro since:
i don't really think server editions of operating systems are the right thing to run on a daily driver computer

Why not? Whats the difference between a server os such as Windows Server 2016 and another server os such as Fedora, Manjaro, Ubuntu, and almost every other linux distro?

Wettining wrote:

It uses barely any ram, if you configure it right
if you want to go minimal, there are like arch linux setups that use like 200MB of RAM or less, even on modern hardware

But, in most cases, the desktop environment isn't deeply integrated and adding one adds another 200-300MB (keep in mind I can't use something like i3, i3-gaps, or openbox because other people, who are usually not very tech-savvy, need to use my laptop when working on group projects at school and I personally want something visually appealing)

Wettining wrote:

Has very tight security, since it's made for enterprise
here just hover over this file for me real quick
there's a crafted PE someone made where just hovering over it bluescreens because of some internal memory corruption or something
i also didn't meme this bug because it's the worst one i know of or something, it's just the latest one i've heard of in the security news right now :P


I really don't know this error and can't find anything about it from searching, could you provide a link?

Wettining wrote:

Doesn't have any telemetry, if you set it up right
linux doesn't have telemetry at all, whether you set it up right or wrong

Ubuntu literally has telemetry baked in?

Wettining wrote:

Has all the drivers and tools of regular windows 10, so everything just works^tm
i used the power of linux to help revive an old usb camera once. the official drivers were XP-only or something, and wouldn't install on windows 10. linux had support out of the box, no need to install anything

Maybe it's just me, I've had the opposite problem when it came to this floppy reader to usb in which it only worked for Windows 10 when I couldn't find the drivers for the Windows XP machine it was supposed to be connected to

Wettining wrote:

and has incredible boot times, mine boots to desktop in 7 seconds off of a HDD
really? doesn't most UEFI firmware these days already take like 15-30 seconds just on its own? (we can thank microsoft yet again for this one)
having some doubts

I think you have fast boot disabled in your bios/uefi or your doing a full device check each boot…

Wettining wrote:

What benefits does Linux provide me as a developer and user that Windows does not?
- package manager (tired of googling for stuff? and clicking on ads? no more!) - There are plenty of package managers for windows (choco, scoop, etc)? heck even the app store, though abominable, is a “package manager”

- unix shell environment (i can't do anything in cmd or powershell, personally) - There are plethora of tools for developing in the windows command line, I use Micro and Vim all the time for editting files and

- mostly related to having a proper shell environment, but like your PATH and stuff isn't annoying and is mostly set up for you. like when you install stuff (with the package manager!) you can just run it on the command line right away, no need to fiddle with the path manually, or have a special installer that fiddles with it for you - Or just have a directory that is already on the path so you rarely ever have to modify it or open/close a command line to get the new binaries lol

- easy to get your software toolchains (this ties into having a package manager too, but also you don't need to install 10GB of visual studio for 2 hours just to compile some C++. apt install build-essential) - windows by itself is pretty terrible at this, but low and behold windows package managers to the save!

- lots of IDE choices work on linux (gnome builder! kdevelop! intellij stuff if you want! vs code, if you're into that! just plain vim or emacs!!) - micro and vim are the only editors I use on windows, who genuinely uses code? (unless doing so through a web browser, where it's hosted on your server)

- it's highly moddable (because it's all open source ) this means things like i can configure low-level networking in ways that are just impossible to do on windows sometimes. shell extensions on gnome (like stuff that changes how the taskbar and panels and stuff work on the desktop) are first-class citizens and officially supported, rather than the windows 3rd party mod style of jankily patching stuff in system32 and hoping it works. custom start menu? yes. weather panel? absolutely. deep integration with android phones via kde connect? you got it. you can even make your own (without magic)! - yeah, thats what brings the fun into modding windows

- not really about development but tbh, it looks pretty. i use gnome with matcha-dark and papirus icons (yes this is stolen from manjaro, don't @ me) and aaaaaa this is like 10 times better than how windows looks - windows is surprisingly modifiable, you can change almost everything about how windows constructs its programs, whether it be changing the window title bar height, font, the location of minimize/maximize/close, etc. The only difference is that linux expects you to modify it whereas in windows, it's more of a surprise and a lot more fun

In all seriousness, my daily driver is dual booted Manjaro and Windows Server 2016 and so far (for the past 2 or 3 years) I've had absolutely no problems with Windows (never a blue screen, freeze up, or unexpected shutdown/restart from updates (mainly because server update schedule is different than home edition) whereas on the Linux side of things I've had random boot up errors and system panics at least once every 2 or 3 months, maybe it's just my system but who knows.
LastContinue
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

Wettining wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Wettining wrote:

In my experience, Windows Server 2016 has been a much better experience than both Windows 10 and any Linux distro since:
i don't really think server editions of operating systems are the right thing to run on a daily driver computer
Why not? Whats the difference between a server os such as Windows Server 2016 and another server os such as Fedora, Manjaro, Ubuntu, and almost every other linux distro?

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Wettining wrote:

It uses barely any ram, if you configure it right
if you want to go minimal, there are like arch linux setups that use like 200MB of RAM or less, even on modern hardware
But, in most cases, the desktop environment isn't deeply integrated and adding one adds another 200-300MB (keep in mind I can't use something like i3, i3-gaps, or openbox because other people, who are usually not very tech-savvy, need to use my laptop when working on group projects at school and I personally want something visually appealing)

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Wettining wrote:

Has very tight security, since it's made for enterprise
here just hover over this file for me real quick
there's a crafted PE someone made where just hovering over it bluescreens because of some internal memory corruption or something
i also didn't meme this bug because it's the worst one i know of or something, it's just the latest one i've heard of in the security news right now :P

I really don't know this error and can't find anything about it from searching, could you provide a link?

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Wettining wrote:

Doesn't have any telemetry, if you set it up right
linux doesn't have telemetry at all, whether you set it up right or wrong
Ubuntu literally has telemetry baked in?

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Wettining wrote:

Has all the drivers and tools of regular windows 10, so everything just works^tm
i used the power of linux to help revive an old usb camera once. the official drivers were XP-only or something, and wouldn't install on windows 10. linux had support out of the box, no need to install anything

Maybe it's just me, I've had the opposite problem when it came to this floppy reader to usb in which it only worked for Windows 10 when I couldn't find the drivers for the Windows XP machine it was supposed to be connected to

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Wettining wrote:

and has incredible boot times, mine boots to desktop in 7 seconds off of a HDD
really? doesn't most UEFI firmware these days already take like 15-30 seconds just on its own? (we can thank microsoft yet again for this one)
having some doubts

I think you have fast boot disabled in your bios/uefi or your doing a full device check each boot…

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Wettining wrote:

What benefits does Linux provide me as a developer and user that Windows does not?
- package manager (tired of googling for stuff? and clicking on ads? no more!) - There are plenty of package managers for windows (choco, scoop, etc)? heck even the app store, though abominable, is a “package manager”

- unix shell environment (i can't do anything in cmd or powershell, personally) - There are plethora of tools for developing in the windows command line, I use Micro and Vim all the time for editting files and

- mostly related to having a proper shell environment, but like your PATH and stuff isn't annoying and is mostly set up for you. like when you install stuff (with the package manager!) you can just run it on the command line right away, no need to fiddle with the path manually, or have a special installer that fiddles with it for you - Or just have a directory that is already on the path so you rarely ever have to modify it or open/close a command line to get the new binaries lol

- easy to get your software toolchains (this ties into having a package manager too, but also you don't need to install 10GB of visual studio for 2 hours just to compile some C++. apt install build-essential) - windows by itself is pretty terrible at this, but low and behold windows package managers to the save!

- lots of IDE choices work on linux (gnome builder! kdevelop! intellij stuff if you want! vs code, if you're into that! just plain vim or emacs!!) - micro and vim are the only editors I use on windows, who genuinely uses code? (unless doing so through a web browser, where it's hosted on your server)

- it's highly moddable (because it's all open source ) this means things like i can configure low-level networking in ways that are just impossible to do on windows sometimes. shell extensions on gnome (like stuff that changes how the taskbar and panels and stuff work on the desktop) are first-class citizens and officially supported, rather than the windows 3rd party mod style of jankily patching stuff in system32 and hoping it works. custom start menu? yes. weather panel? absolutely. deep integration with android phones via kde connect? you got it. you can even make your own (without magic)! - yeah, thats what brings the fun into modding windows

- not really about development but tbh, it looks pretty. i use gnome with matcha-dark and papirus icons (yes this is stolen from manjaro, don't @ me) and aaaaaa this is like 10 times better than how windows looks - windows is surprisingly modifiable, you can change almost everything about how windows constructs its programs, whether it be changing the window title bar height, font, the location of minimize/maximize/close, etc. The only difference is that linux expects you to modify it whereas in windows, it's more of a surprise and a lot more fun

In all seriousness, my daily driver is dual booted Manjaro and Windows Server 2016 and so far (for the past 2 or 3 years) I've had absolutely no problems with Windows (never a blue screen, freeze up, or unexpected shutdown/restart from updates (mainly because server update schedule is different than home edition) whereas on the Linux side of things I've had random boot up errors and system panics at least once every 2 or 3 months, maybe it's just my system but who knows.
First, fix your dang quotes

Second, there are DEs and WMs that don't use lots of RAM. * Small Linux has a full DE/WM and fits in 50MB, if you really want small and customizable, roll an LFS system and configure it how you want .

Third, Ubuntu isn't Linux. It's a GNU/Linux with a lot of stank. Install Arch (or Manjaro or gentoo) if you want stankless GNU/Linux. Or roll your own LFS and don't even have the ghost of Stallman in your boot sector…

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DatOneLefty
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

LastContinue wrote:

Wettining wrote:

snip
First, fix your dang quotes

Second, there are DEs and WMs that don't use lots of RAM. * Small Linux has a full DE/WM and fits in 50MB, if you really want small and customizable, roll an LFS system and configure it how you want .

Third, Ubuntu isn't Linux. It's a GNU/Linux with a lot of stank. Install Arch (or Manjaro or gentoo) if you want stankless GNU/Linux. Or roll your own LFS and don't even have the ghost of Stallman in your boot sector…


i use hackintosh why am i talking


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LastContinue
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

DatOneLefty wrote:

LastContinue wrote:

Wettining wrote:

snip
First, fix your dang quotes

Second, there are DEs and WMs that don't use lots of RAM. * Small Linux has a full DE/WM and fits in 50MB, if you really want small and customizable, roll an LFS system and configure it how you want .

Third, Ubuntu isn't Linux. It's a GNU/Linux with a lot of stank. Install Arch (or Manjaro or gentoo) if you want stankless GNU/Linux. Or roll your own LFS and don't even have the ghost of Stallman in your boot sector…


i use hackintosh why am i talking
Lol I forgot he changed his PFP to being a `h` rather than zoomer Linus like before.

Also Virtualise Mac under Gentoo thanks.

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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

I do like that idea, but I don't think that's what I am going to do, at least now.
I am well aware of the Windows spyware components and have taken steps to minimize them as much as reasonably possible (changing settings and also using Pi-hole to block some of the traffic).
I am leaving the route to a Linux-only system wide open for me. Most of my software (sans games) should run natively in Linux as well.

My current plan is to get a larger boot drive first. Something like a 1 TB NVMe SSD. After that my current boot SSD will become a Linux SSD for dual-boot.

I am one of the people who really likes Windows 10. I also have a lot more experience with it than with Linux. That's kind of what happens when you work in IT in a 99% Windows environment. But the way things are going I'll probably switch over to having Windows virtualized.


My PC: Ryzen 7 2700 / ASRock x470 Master SLI/AC / 16GB RAM / 250GB SSD / 2TB HDD with 120GB SSD cache / Radeon RX 5700 / Windows 10 Pro

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good old infinitytec
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

infinitytec wrote:

I am one of the people who really likes Windows 10. I also have a lot more experience with it than with Linux. That's kind of what happens when you work in IT in a 99% Windows environment. But the way things are going I'll probably switch over to having Windows virtualized.
This is very silly way of looking at things, my friend.

Manjaro KDE is like Windows but without anything you hate about Windows. The start menu is a start menu, searching in the start menu doesn't try and sell your soul to Billy Gates via Bing! and the best part is it just feels like Windows rather than Linux.

Join us! Join the dark side. @LastContinue has clearly already done it (and their post spells them to be a Windows person, like yourself). Throw a cheapo drive in their and mess about with a few distros to find what you like. (:

Edit 壹: Cannot spell.

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Hitoride - “hitori” formed from “hito” and “ri” meaning one person, and “de” being the “context particle”. Roughly means “alone” or “by oneself”…

I'm female aka pronouns are she/her.

Words inflict damage. “'Tis but a scratch” they tell you. Yet, when their world is crumbling around you, when you're the last one who can help them. Your words of denial shatter them like a glass…
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HitorideYmy wrote:

infinitytec wrote:

I am one of the people who really likes Windows 10. I also have a lot more experience with it than with Linux. That's kind of what happens when you work in IT in a 99% Windows environment. But the way things are going I'll probably switch over to having Windows virtualized.
This is very silly way of looking at things, my friend.

Manjaro KDE is like Windows but without anything you hate about Windows. The start menu is a start menu, searching in the start menu doesn't try and sell your soul to Billy Gates via Bing! and the best part is it just feels like Windows rather than Linux.

Join us! Join the dark side. @LastContinue has clearly already done it (and their post spells them to be a Windows person, like yourself). Throw a cheapo drive in their and mess about with a few distros to find what you like. (:

Edit 壹: Cannot spell.
^this

Manjaro KDE is literally Windows sans Stank.

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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

LastContinue wrote:

HitorideYmy wrote:

infinitytec wrote:

I am one of the people who really likes Windows 10. I also have a lot more experience with it than with Linux. That's kind of what happens when you work in IT in a 99% Windows environment. But the way things are going I'll probably switch over to having Windows virtualized.
This is very silly way of looking at things, my friend.

Manjaro KDE is like Windows but without anything you hate about Windows. The start menu is a start menu, searching in the start menu doesn't try and sell your soul to Billy Gates via Bing! and the best part is it just feels like Windows rather than Linux.

Join us! Join the dark side. @LastContinue has clearly already done it (and their post spells them to be a Windows person, like yourself). Throw a cheapo drive in their and mess about with a few distros to find what you like. (:

Edit 壹: Cannot spell.
^this

Manjaro KDE is literally Windows sans Stank.
Nothing silly about it.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Linux. And I am definitely going to be setting up dual-boot. If I'm using Windows I want to use Windows. If I use Linux I don't need it to pretend to be Windows at all. I'll probably use something like Debian with Gnome when I set up dual-boot. And seeing as I have not got it set up yet, it may very well be my primary OS rather than Windows.

I'm about 75% happy with Windows 10 right now. My long-term goal is to move entirely to Linux however, but I don't need to yet.


My PC: Ryzen 7 2700 / ASRock x470 Master SLI/AC / 16GB RAM / 250GB SSD / 2TB HDD with 120GB SSD cache / Radeon RX 5700 / Windows 10 Pro

Wetbikeboy2500 wrote:

good old infinitytec
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

infinitytec wrote:

LastContinue wrote:

HitorideYmy wrote:

-snip-
^this

Manjaro KDE is literally Windows sans Stank.
Nothing silly about it.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Linux. And I am definitely going to be setting up dual-boot. If I'm using Windows I want to use Windows. If I use Linux I don't need it to pretend to be Windows at all. I'll probably use something like Debian with Gnome when I set up dual-boot. And seeing as I have not got it set up yet, it may very well be my primary OS rather than Windows.

I'm about 75% happy with Windows 10 right now. My long-term goal is to move entirely to Linux however, but I don't need to yet.
Just virtualise. You'll get the best of both worlds!

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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

LastContinue wrote:

infinitytec wrote:

LastContinue wrote:

HitorideYmy wrote:

-snip-
^this

Manjaro KDE is literally Windows sans Stank.
Nothing silly about it.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Linux. And I am definitely going to be setting up dual-boot. If I'm using Windows I want to use Windows. If I use Linux I don't need it to pretend to be Windows at all. I'll probably use something like Debian with Gnome when I set up dual-boot. And seeing as I have not got it set up yet, it may very well be my primary OS rather than Windows.

I'm about 75% happy with Windows 10 right now. My long-term goal is to move entirely to Linux however, but I don't need to yet.
Just virtualise. You'll get the best of both worlds!
Or I can dual-boot, achieve the same goal, and have the benefit of bare-metal.


My PC: Ryzen 7 2700 / ASRock x470 Master SLI/AC / 16GB RAM / 250GB SSD / 2TB HDD with 120GB SSD cache / Radeon RX 5700 / Windows 10 Pro

Wetbikeboy2500 wrote:

good old infinitytec
God has a plan. He has a plan for everything, and everyone.
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

infinitytec wrote:

LastContinue wrote:

infinitytec wrote:

LastContinue wrote:

HitorideYmy wrote:

-snip-
^this

Manjaro KDE is literally Windows sans Stank.
Nothing silly about it.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Linux. And I am definitely going to be setting up dual-boot. If I'm using Windows I want to use Windows. If I use Linux I don't need it to pretend to be Windows at all. I'll probably use something like Debian with Gnome when I set up dual-boot. And seeing as I have not got it set up yet, it may very well be my primary OS rather than Windows.

I'm about 75% happy with Windows 10 right now. My long-term goal is to move entirely to Linux however, but I don't need to yet.
Just virtualise. You'll get the best of both worlds!
Or I can dual-boot, achieve the same goal, and have the benefit of bare-metal.
If you're going to dual boot, can I recommend you the perfect dual boot OS?

Check out Shrine OS or it's original Temple OS

You can hot code the system files and even mess around with the kernel and recompile on the fly, with the plus side of the whole OS being ~5 MB. Worried about start time? boom, 0.4 seconds to console, Worried about security? Boom, no internet and plus nothing would work on this OS, Worried about RAM? Haha, this OS takes only 64-96 MB at idle (it needs some headroom for startup applications so give it at least 128 for it to run or 256 mb for it to be fast).
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

Wettining wrote:

infinitytec wrote:

-snip-
If you're going to dual boot, can I recommend you the perfect dual boot OS?

Check out Shrine OS or it's original Temple OS

You can hot code the system files and even mess around with the kernel and recompile on the fly, with the plus side of the whole OS being ~5 MB. Worried about start time? boom, 0.4 seconds to console, Worried about security? Boom, no internet and plus nothing would work on this OS, Worried about RAM? Haha, this OS takes only 64-96 MB at idle (it needs some headroom for startup applications so give it at least 128 for it to run or 256 mb for it to be fast).
RIP Terry, he didn't deserve to go out the way he did.

A disturbed genius, eccentric, but a sort-of alright dude. His Wisdom, living forever-onwards.

But his Operating System is trash D a m n Small Linux can fit in 50mb of RAM.

Edit: Ok excuse me ST why in the hecking heckers is “D a m n” censored, it's literally in the bible.

Last edited by LastContinue (Dec. 1, 2019 09:41:38)


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LastContinue wrote:

Edit: Ok excuse me ST why in the hecking heckers is “D a m n” censored, it's literally in the bible.
there are many things in the bible that don't rly belong on the scratch forums
entire sections

$(".box-head")[0].textContent = "committing AT crimes since $whenever"
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Running Linux full time and Virtualising Windows is Great and you should do it too!

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

LastContinue wrote:

Edit: Ok excuse me ST why in the hecking heckers is “D a m n” censored, it's literally in the bible.
there are many things in the bible that don't rly belong on the scratch forums
entire sections
Agreed.

'Twas a joke. I haven't picked up a bible in about 6 or 7 years now? I've been meaning to get a full sized one and read it to see how much I still disagree with, but eh.

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