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GoldenBonnie09
Scratcher
20 posts

Why are cloud chat projects not allowed?

I've never in my 3 years of being on here seen anything violating the guidelines. After all, they have whitelists. Sorry if this is the wrong forum

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WindOctahedron
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Why are cloud chat projects not allowed?

Even if a Cloud Chat has a whitelist, there is still away to send inappropriate messages. For example, if there was a chat with these (and other) words:
  • I
  • me
  • you
  • do
  • like
  • not
You could send messages like “Do you like me”, “I do not like me”, and “I do not like you”.
The last one is, of course, inappropriate.

Last edited by WindOctahedron (Aug. 14, 2019 15:14:36)

GoldenBonnie09
Scratcher
20 posts

Why are cloud chat projects not allowed?

That doesn't seem that bad to shut down the whole chat system

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WindOctahedron
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Why are cloud chat projects not allowed?

GoldenBonnie09 wrote:

That doesn't seem that bad to shut down the whole chat system
But the people where still trying to get around the community guidelines (and the way I showed isn't the only one).
GoldenBonnie09
Scratcher
20 posts

Why are cloud chat projects not allowed?

yeah I now see how people could do that. still sucks tho

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LegoManiac04
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Why are cloud chat projects not allowed?

But you can still make chats with preset messages, as long as they are appropriate.
Like “Hello”, “Goodbye.”, or “Cool!”.

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Morimop
Scratcher
500+ posts

Why are cloud chat projects not allowed?

Reason 1: Blacklist doesn't work
Like you are using a blacklist and you ban word “cat”. The user would send “c a t”, “ca t” and more. It would be very hard to find them all.
Reason 2: Whitelist
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WindOctahedron wrote:

Even if a Cloud Chat has a whitelist, there is still away to send inappropriate messages.

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DaEpikDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Why are cloud chat projects not allowed?

I think the main reason is actually just that they're basically impossible to moderate. I mean, if someone is insulting you on a cloud chat in a project, how do you report that? You can't report the user for it when there's no real way to show exactly what you're doing: the ST would just have to take your word that it happened, which opens up all sorts of possibilities for people reporting anyone they don't like for “insulting me in (insert chat project here)!” even when nothing of the sort happened. How would the ST know which reports are real, and which aren't?

The only way to “prove” this would be taking a screenshot, uploading it somewhere, and linking there in your report, but that could be faked with a little bit of effort as well.

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