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The_Imagineer_
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

I spent way too much time on this XD


Because of more and more projects becoming “mobile friendly” I looked up Scratch on the app store. Sadly, the only Scratch was a rip off that costed 2 dollars. If mobile projects are going to exist, why not an app? Here is my idea on how it would work.


Here is an idea on the icon:

If anyone else has an idea for it, just show it

When you open the app, it looks a lot like the site. Except if you do not have internet, opening projects gives you an error. But you can edit your own projects just like the scratch Offline Editor

The editor is the same, just designed to fit the device. everything is a lot similar.

im still working on this

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Za-Chary
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

I think we could just use an offline editor for tablets, and that's it. Just an app for an offline editor.

The Scratch Team is trying to optimize the Scratch 3.0 website for tablets, so if you have an Internet connection, I don't see why one would need to use a separate app for the website when the actual website could work just fine.

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venyanwarrior
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

Za-Chary wrote:

I think we could just use an offline editor for tablets, and that's it. Just an app for an offline editor.

The Scratch Team is trying to optimize the Scratch 3.0 website for tablets, so if you have an Internet connection, I don't see why one would need to use a separate app for the website when the actual website could work just fine.
Well, then again, what if you want to use it in the go? After all, they are mobile devices, and people might not have data to use the website. So, support for an offline editor, semi-support for a full website app.


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Za-Chary
Scratch Team
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

venyanwarrior wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

I think we could just use an offline editor for tablets, and that's it. Just an app for an offline editor.

The Scratch Team is trying to optimize the Scratch 3.0 website for tablets, so if you have an Internet connection, I don't see why one would need to use a separate app for the website when the actual website could work just fine.
Well, then again, what if you want to use it in the go? After all, they are mobile devices, and people might not have data to use the website. So, support for an offline editor, semi-support for a full website app.
If you use it on the go, then you can use your favorite Internet browser to go to scratch.mit.edu. I don't see the benefit to implementing a website on an app when the actual website can work just fine.

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Flipped_
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

Za-Chary wrote:

If you use it on the go, then you can use your favorite Internet browser to go to scratch.mit.edu. I don't see the benefit to implementing a website on an app when the actual website can work just fine.

A Scratch app, like the OP says, would have offline capabilities as well. Currently mobile devices don't have any sort of offline editor, and some mobile devices may not have cellular data access, so an offline editor would be useful.

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The_Imagineer_
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

two words. offline editor

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Za-Chary
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

Flipped_ wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

If you use it on the go, then you can use your favorite Internet browser to go to scratch.mit.edu. I don't see the benefit to implementing a website on an app when the actual website can work just fine.

A Scratch app, like the OP says, would have offline capabilities as well. Currently mobile devices don't have any sort of offline editor, and some mobile devices may not have cellular data access, so an offline editor would be useful.

The_Imagineer_ wrote:

two words. offline editor
I'm aware of that. What I'm saying is that we don't need a website on an app. An offline editor, of course, would be great.

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The_Imagineer_
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

not an website on an app. its an app designed like the website.

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-Rex-
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

Perhaps an app could offer additional functionality that neither website nor offline editor could offer, such as downloading online projects so that you can play them even without an Internet connection. Also, mobile apps often work better than mobile websites, and may provide more control over the UI than a website would allow (though I'm not sure, since I don't know much about web or app development).

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Epic_TV
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

I give support for an Android offline editor, but not for an IOS version. Quoting a Scratch Wiki Article

From The Scratch Wiki

The Scratch Viewer was the first application created to play Scratch projects on mobile devices, specifically Apple's iOS. It was made by John McIntosh of Smalltalk Consulting Ltd, a Canadian Programmer who had before had had no affiliation with the MIT Media Lab. However, in April 2010 the application was removed from iTunes (Apple's app store) by Apple because it violates Section 3.3.1 of the company’s policy against applications that interpret or execute code.

If the ST could work things out with Apple, maybe a IOS app could be possible.

Last edited by Epic_TV (March 21, 2019 19:24:00)


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powercon5
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

Epic_TV wrote:

I give support for an Android offline editor, but not for an IOS version. Quoting a Scratch Wiki Article

From The Scratch Wiki

The Scratch Viewer was the first application created to play Scratch projects on mobile devices, specifically Apple's iOS. It was made by John McIntosh of Smalltalk Consulting Ltd, a Canadian Programmer who had before had had no affiliation with the MIT Media Lab. However, in April 2010 the application was removed from iTunes (Apple's app store) by Apple because it violates Section 3.3.1 of the company’s policy against applications that interpret or execute code.

If the ST could work things out with Apple, maybe a IOS app could be possible.
Keep in mind that, that was 9 years ago. Things have very likely changed since then, and Apple already allows the Scratch Jr app.



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Epic_TV
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

powercon5 wrote:

Epic_TV wrote:

I give support for an Android offline editor, but not for an IOS version. Quoting a Scratch Wiki Article

From The Scratch Wiki

The Scratch Viewer was the first application created to play Scratch projects on mobile devices, specifically Apple's iOS. It was made by John McIntosh of Smalltalk Consulting Ltd, a Canadian Programmer who had before had had no affiliation with the MIT Media Lab. However, in April 2010 the application was removed from iTunes (Apple's app store) by Apple because it violates Section 3.3.1 of the company’s policy against applications that interpret or execute code.

If the ST could work things out with Apple, maybe a IOS app could be possible.
Keep in mind that, that was 9 years ago. Things have very likely changed since then, and Apple already allows the Scratch Jr app.

That is because it isn’t as complicated as Scratch, and I just read their terms of service. They’ve reworded it, but it’s the same.

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powercon5
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

Epic_TV wrote:

powercon5 wrote:

Epic_TV wrote:

I give support for an Android offline editor, but not for an IOS version. Quoting a Scratch Wiki Article

From The Scratch Wiki

The Scratch Viewer was the first application created to play Scratch projects on mobile devices, specifically Apple's iOS. It was made by John McIntosh of Smalltalk Consulting Ltd, a Canadian Programmer who had before had had no affiliation with the MIT Media Lab. However, in April 2010 the application was removed from iTunes (Apple's app store) by Apple because it violates Section 3.3.1 of the company’s policy against applications that interpret or execute code.

If the ST could work things out with Apple, maybe a IOS app could be possible.
Keep in mind that, that was 9 years ago. Things have very likely changed since then, and Apple already allows the Scratch Jr app.

That is because it isn’t as complicated as Scratch, and I just read their terms of service. They’ve reworded it, but it’s the same.
However Scratch itself isn't exactly a full programming language, it's restricted enough that you couldn't cause harm with it. An official app made by the Scratch team would also be a lot more trustworthy. That Scratch team have also talked about a 3.0 app before, I assume they wouldn't do that if it wasn't possible.

Searching the app store I can also find lots of apps that let you program.



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-Rex-
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

Epic_TV wrote:

powercon5 wrote:

Epic_TV wrote:

I give support for an Android offline editor, but not for an IOS version. Quoting a Scratch Wiki Article

From The Scratch Wiki

The Scratch Viewer was the first application created to play Scratch projects on mobile devices, specifically Apple's iOS. It was made by John McIntosh of Smalltalk Consulting Ltd, a Canadian Programmer who had before had had no affiliation with the MIT Media Lab. However, in April 2010 the application was removed from iTunes (Apple's app store) by Apple because it violates Section 3.3.1 of the company’s policy against applications that interpret or execute code.

If the ST could work things out with Apple, maybe a IOS app could be possible.
Keep in mind that, that was 9 years ago. Things have very likely changed since then, and Apple already allows the Scratch Jr app.

That is because it isn’t as complicated as Scratch, and I just read their terms of service. They’ve reworded it, but it’s the same.
They've allowed a Python IDE on the app store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pythonista-3/id1085978097?mt=8
They also have their own Shortcuts app, which can run Javascript and is Turing complete: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shortcuts/id915249334?mt=8
I don't think Scratch would have issues getting approval.
The_Imagineer_
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

-Rex- wrote:

Perhaps an app could offer additional functionality that neither website nor offline editor could offer, such as downloading online projects so that you can play them even without an Internet connection. Also, mobile apps often work better than mobile websites, and may provide more control over the UI than a website would allow (though I'm not sure, since I don't know much about web or app development).
This guy gets it!

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TheNewOne2989
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

Za-Chary wrote:

I think we could just use an offline editor for tablets, and that's it. Just an app for an offline editor.

The Scratch Team is trying to optimize the Scratch 3.0 website for tablets, so if you have an Internet connection, I don't see why one would need to use a separate app for the website when the actual website could work just fine.



Well, what if the browser/webpage crashes on the scratch website?
CatsUnited
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

I think that Scratch really only needs an offline editor for mobile - there doesn't need a be an app that loads the site.

TheNewOne2989 wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

I think we could just use an offline editor for tablets, and that's it. Just an app for an offline editor.

The Scratch Team is trying to optimize the Scratch 3.0 website for tablets, so if you have an Internet connection, I don't see why one would need to use a separate app for the website when the actual website could work just fine.



Well, what if the browser/webpage crashes on the scratch website?
Have you tried using a different web browser?
Judging by this suggestion, this Scratch app would basically just be a locked down web browser, so if you're going to install something like that, you might as well try to install a different browser to see if the Scratch website works better on that browser

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TheNewOne2989
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Scratch Mobile App Concept!

CatsUnited wrote:

I think that Scratch really only needs an offline editor for mobile - there doesn't need a be an app that loads the site.

TheNewOne2989 wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

I think we could just use an offline editor for tablets, and that's it. Just an app for an offline editor.

The Scratch Team is trying to optimize the Scratch 3.0 website for tablets, so if you have an Internet connection, I don't see why one would need to use a separate app for the website when the actual website could work just fine.



Well, what if the browser/webpage crashes on the scratch website?
Have you tried using a different web browser?
Judging by this suggestion, this Scratch app would basically just be a locked down web browser, so if you're going to install something like that, you might as well try to install a different browser to see if the Scratch website works better on that browser

I tried google chrome, and Microsoft edge, yet NOTHING is changed, the browser/webpage keeps on crashing on Scratch.





Anyone gunna answer dis?

Last edited by TheNewOne2989 (June 13, 2019 04:27:17)

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