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BoronShokwaveGambit

Za-Chary wrote:
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There is a maximum number of 2 people allowed to work on a project at a time. That is, you can only send an invite to one other person. This way we don't have any games of “owner keep-away” where 3 other people send “It's your turn” messages to each other, and not the project owner. Doing this would also eliminate any use of “invite everyone” projects, which could just get confusing.

-snip

Maybe the Project owner can STEAL anybody else's turn so their turn would end early, so that there would be no owner keep-away
(sorry if someone else suggested this, too lazy to look)
Edt: added quote

Last edited by BoronShokwaveGambit (Feb. 21, 2024 01:21:01)

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alulatu wrote:
Suggestion: Make it so that there aren’t ‘turns’, but instead both people could work on it at any time. Also, when you close the project, you could have a ‘copy project’ button pop up, in case you want a private version of the project.

RejecteSujestions wrote:
2.1 Adding users to work on projects
Having multiple Scratchers work on the same project would be difficult to moderate not only due to technological limitations but also because it could lead to private messaging; for more information, see #7.1 on this list. This suggestion includes live editing (similar to Google Docs) and other forms of private collaboration. If you would like to work on a project with another Scratcher, you can remix each others' projects.

At the moment, a turn-based collaboration system for shared projects is NOT rejected; you can discuss it on this topic.

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What would happen if something inappropriate was added? Who would get in trouble?

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Try to refrain from saying, ‘No support’. It comes off as extremely negative. “The forums are for criticism! Don't post it you don't want it!” Agreed. But I never said that you should agree with everyone. No suggestion will ever be perfect
What sounds more constructive?
“No support, people would spam with it”
“This would lead to a lot of spam, since people can't get away from it. Not to mention, it might upset a few people with the way it's implemented”

In #1, you didn't help OP at all. You said you didn't like it, and why. Nothing else. Not even what was causing the issue of spam
In #2, you pointed out the flaws and the root causes of them. Flaws shouldn't always get a suggestion absolutely ignored

And simply supporting doesn't always help either. It's not a voting system, it's improving your ideas. There's going to be cons, there's going to be flaws, and that's the point of the suggestions. No suggestion is ever 100% perfect in any way
Here are some things you can look out for:
-Are there any flaws/cons that haven't been addressed or fixed?
-Is this idea fully flushed out? Or are there some questions you can ask?
-Are there any flaws that you know how to fix or do you know how to flush something out a bit more?
-Is there anyone else who is confused and needs some clarification?

If you don't have to do any of these, then you can move on!

Is a suggestion unable to be added because it's just impossible? Point out why and have them decide what to do next
But still, try not to say ‘no support’

Xzillox

The-Sushi-Cat wrote:
What would happen if something inappropriate was added? Who would get in trouble?

to fix this issue, you should be able to report the project version of the user before you. once you save changes to the project, the report button goes away (the one on the project page is still there of course)

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BoronShokwaveGambit wrote:
Za-Chary wrote:
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There is a maximum number of 2 people allowed to work on a project at a time. That is, you can only send an invite to one other person. This way we don't have any games of “owner keep-away” where 3 other people send “It's your turn” messages to each other, and not the project owner. Doing this would also eliminate any use of “invite everyone” projects, which could just get confusing.

-snip
Maybe the Project owner can STEAL anybody else's turn so their turn would end early, so that there would be no owner keep-away
(sorry if someone else suggested this, too lazy to look)
Edt: added quote

Also, maybe, the owner has ALL THE POWER so the owner can decide who gets turns when

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I 100% support this idea i want this fight collabs would be so much easier and colaboration could mean better and bigger projects

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BoronShokwaveGambit wrote:
Za-Chary wrote:
-snip
There is a maximum number of 2 people allowed to work on a project at a time. That is, you can only send an invite to one other person. This way we don't have any games of “owner keep-away” where 3 other people send “It's your turn” messages to each other, and not the project owner. Doing this would also eliminate any use of “invite everyone” projects, which could just get confusing.

-snip
Maybe the Project owner can STEAL anybody else's turn so their turn would end early, so that there would be no owner keep-away
(sorry if someone else suggested this, too lazy to look)
Edt: added quote

There could be a message like “@CollaborationOwner has stolen your turn!”

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forkmanb

A_Nyan_In_Space wrote:
BoronShokwaveGambit wrote:
Za-Chary wrote:
-snip
There is a maximum number of 2 people allowed to work on a project at a time. That is, you can only send an invite to one other person. This way we don't have any games of “owner keep-away” where 3 other people send “It's your turn” messages to each other, and not the project owner. Doing this would also eliminate any use of “invite everyone” projects, which could just get confusing.

-snip
Maybe the Project owner can STEAL anybody else's turn so their turn would end early, so that there would be no owner keep-away
(sorry if someone else suggested this, too lazy to look)
Edt: added quote
There could be a message like “@CollaborationOwner has stolen your turn!”

don't you think the word “steal” is a bit too mean? like, how would you feel if you got a message stating that someone had “stolen” your turn? probably not that good.

A_Nyan_In_Space

forkmanb wrote:
A_Nyan_In_Space wrote:
BoronShokwaveGambit wrote:
Za-Chary wrote:
-snip
There is a maximum number of 2 people allowed to work on a project at a time. That is, you can only send an invite to one other person. This way we don't have any games of “owner keep-away” where 3 other people send “It's your turn” messages to each other, and not the project owner. Doing this would also eliminate any use of “invite everyone” projects, which could just get confusing.

-snip
Maybe the Project owner can STEAL anybody else's turn so their turn would end early, so that there would be no owner keep-away
(sorry if someone else suggested this, too lazy to look)
Edt: added quote
There could be a message like “@CollaborationOwner has stolen your turn!”
don't you think the word “steal” is a bit too mean? like, how would you feel if you got a message stating that someone had “stolen” your turn? probably not that good.

Not really, I mean would “claimed” be better?

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A_Nyan_In_Space wrote:
forkmanb wrote:
A_Nyan_In_Space wrote:
BoronShokwaveGambit wrote:
Za-Chary wrote:
-snip
There is a maximum number of 2 people allowed to work on a project at a time. That is, you can only send an invite to one other person. This way we don't have any games of “owner keep-away” where 3 other people send “It's your turn” messages to each other, and not the project owner. Doing this would also eliminate any use of “invite everyone” projects, which could just get confusing.

-snip
Maybe the Project owner can STEAL anybody else's turn so their turn would end early, so that there would be no owner keep-away
(sorry if someone else suggested this, too lazy to look)
Edt: added quote
There could be a message like “@CollaborationOwner has stolen your turn!”
don't you think the word “steal” is a bit too mean? like, how would you feel if you got a message stating that someone had “stolen” your turn? probably not that good.
Not really, I mean would “claimed” be better?

Probably?
In my opinion, I would do “@owner1 has withdrawn your turn” to the person who originally had the turn, and to the rest of the collaborators, “@owner1 has taken @user1's turn” or something like that.

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Boss_1s wrote:
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Probably?
In my opinion, I would do “@owner1 has withdrawn your turn” to the person who originally had the turn, and to the rest of the collaborators, “@owner1 has taken @user1's turn” or something like that.

maybe “@owner has changed your turn” and “@owner changed @user's turn”

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Xzillox wrote:
Boss_1s wrote:
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Probably?
In my opinion, I would do “@owner1 has withdrawn your turn” to the person who originally had the turn, and to the rest of the collaborators, “@owner1 has taken @user1's turn” or something like that.
maybe “@owner has changed your turn” and “@owner changed @user's turn”

(whatever happened when I was trying to think of the right word?)
Yeah, that might work better than my suggestion.

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LuckyLucky7 wrote:
Za-Chary wrote:
There is a maximum number of 2 people allowed to work on a project at a time. That is, you can only send an invite to one other person. This way we don't have any games of “owner keep-away” where 3 other people send “It's your turn” messages to each other, and not the project owner. Doing this would also eliminate any use of “invite everyone” projects, which could just get confusing.

I deleted some of it, its the first post.
It should have a circle like this:

user1 -> user2 -> user3 -> user4 ->
current turn: user2

If a new user is added in this senecio, they would either be added at the end (after user4) or last (after user1).

You can only give the turn to the next person (so user1 could only give it to user2, user2 could only give it to user3, etc.)

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_WOFDOG_ wrote:
SUGGESTION: when getting a request, you would be able to see what it is. This is so you don’t end up just joining a random thing.

you can just ask the person who sent the request on their profile, though i would imagine the project is already shared before being able to send a request

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Another question:

If User 1 removes User 2, then could they invite another user?

What would happen if the project was unshared? Would user 2 be removed from the collab? Or would it be unable to be unshared if there was a collab?

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Try to refrain from saying, ‘No support’. It comes off as extremely negative. “The forums are for criticism! Don't post it you don't want it!” Agreed. But I never said that you should agree with everyone. No suggestion will ever be perfect
What sounds more constructive?
“No support, people would spam with it”
“This would lead to a lot of spam, since people can't get away from it. Not to mention, it might upset a few people with the way it's implemented”

In #1, you didn't help OP at all. You said you didn't like it, and why. Nothing else. Not even what was causing the issue of spam
In #2, you pointed out the flaws and the root causes of them. Flaws shouldn't always get a suggestion absolutely ignored

And simply supporting doesn't always help either. It's not a voting system, it's improving your ideas. There's going to be cons, there's going to be flaws, and that's the point of the suggestions. No suggestion is ever 100% perfect in any way
Here are some things you can look out for:
-Are there any flaws/cons that haven't been addressed or fixed?
-Is this idea fully flushed out? Or are there some questions you can ask?
-Are there any flaws that you know how to fix or do you know how to flush something out a bit more?
-Is there anyone else who is confused and needs some clarification?

If you don't have to do any of these, then you can move on!

Is a suggestion unable to be added because it's just impossible? Point out why and have them decide what to do next
But still, try not to say ‘no support’

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The-Sushi-Cat wrote:
Another question:

If User 1 removes User 2, then could they invite another user?

What would happen if the project was unshared? Would user 2 be removed from the collab? Or would it be unable to be unshared if there was a collab?

1. Yes and no. They can only invite for a certain amount of time, so as to avoid spamming.
I.E. User1 repeatedly adds then removes User2. After times, the Scratch moderator robot thingie picks it up and blocks User1 from inviting anyone for the next (5 min. increments). Kinda like the comments.

2. My opinion for that is to also add the project into User2's MyStuff, so that they can still work on it unshared. If User1 removes User2, then User2's MyStuff won't have the project in it.

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I'm 12 years old, and I joined Scratch to relearn block coding.
Other projects:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/869604293/ - cool MMO platformer
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/792424859/ - This is my first ORIGINAL game.
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/914686250/ - NEW! Remixed an RPG from Griffpatch, though it's pretty boring right now…
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/895107188/ - NEW! Safe chat with anyone on Scratch, whitelist is present
Secret Special Advanced Project (SSAdP): COMPLETED!!! https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/946720515/

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Boss_1s wrote:
2. My opinion for that is to also add the project into User2's MyStuff, so that they can still work on it unshared. If User1 removes User2, then User2's MyStuff won't have the project in it.

the project has to be shared at all times to prevent private messaging and so people can report any inappropriate changes made to the project

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Xzillox wrote:
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Boss_1s wrote:
2. My opinion for that is to also add the project into User2's MyStuff, so that they can still work on it unshared. If User1 removes User2, then User2's MyStuff won't have the project in it.
the project has to be shared at all times to prevent private messaging and so people can report any inappropriate changes made to the project

Once the collab is disabled, it should be able to be unshared.

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