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hahasamian
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Do I have a problem for seeing the Classic fanbase as closed-minded and kind of spoiled?
I know that isn't everyone who enjoys Classic Sonic, but they just seem to like ignoring the problems with their own games so as to set them on a pedestal, while still criticizing anything that isn't either a Genesis game or Mania.

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hahasamian wrote:

Do I have a problem for seeing the Classic fanbase as closed-minded and kind of spoiled?
I know that isn't everyone who enjoys Classic Sonic, but they just seem to like ignoring the problems with their own games so as to set them on a pedestal, while still criticizing anything that isn't either a Genesis game or Mania.
i can respect that
im a quite out there fan and can see your reasoning
classic sonic is my fav still
hahasamian
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And yes, I am playing Mania. The one thing I'm expecting from it at this point is good level design.

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Spycapt54 wrote:

dreamlandsonic wrote:

Spycapt54 wrote:

Yesterday I downloaded the BetterSADX mod with the hopes of getting Sonic Adventure to run better on my laptop, but whenever I tried to adjust my control mapping or exit a mini-game (the mod adds those back in), the game would lock up. There's no way to change the controls outside of the game, unlike vanilla SADX.
R.i.p
And all I had to do in the first place was reduce the game's resolution (screen size/number of pixels). I didn't even need the mod. I did like the Dreamcast Lighting and the improved visuals and the mini games, though. (I uninstalled the mod and the game and re-installed the game when I started having issues with the mod).
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hahasamian wrote:

Do I have a problem for seeing the Classic fanbase as closed-minded and kind of spoiled?
I know that isn't everyone who enjoys Classic Sonic, but they just seem to like ignoring the problems with their own games so as to set them on a pedestal, while still criticizing anything that isn't either a Genesis game or Mania.
We've had the same observation.

Sonic Mania is one of my favorite games of all time, though.
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Spycapt54 wrote:

hahasamian wrote:

Do I have a problem for seeing the Classic fanbase as closed-minded and kind of spoiled?
I know that isn't everyone who enjoys Classic Sonic, but they just seem to like ignoring the problems with their own games so as to set them on a pedestal, while still criticizing anything that isn't either a Genesis game or Mania.
We've had the same observation.

Sonic Mania is one of my favorite games of all time, though.
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hahasamian wrote:

Do I have a problem for seeing the Classic fanbase as closed-minded and kind of spoiled?
I know that isn't everyone who enjoys Classic Sonic, but they just seem to like ignoring the problems with their own games so as to set them on a pedestal, while still criticizing anything that isn't either a Genesis game or Mania.
To be honest, I'm a classic fan, but i do have some problems with Mania. Because i enjoyed Studiopolis more then, say Green Hill.
They did some pretty neat things with Chemical Plant and stuff, but i really enjoyed the new zones.
They're really going with Nostalgia with Sonic Mania, but the whole “Oh cool haven't seen Angel Island in a while” is really wearing off.
My point is, all the times Classic Sonic appears, he really is locked to a sorta “Genesis Style” thing where he does a lot of stuff from the genesis games (Like, Classic running in the air in Generations like in the genesis games) so, i really want SEGA to do something new with him, not just a Character because nostalgia, but i want him to be a character on his own, more than just “oh yeah Sonic back in the Genesis games”
So, yeah. That's my problems with Modern Classic Sonic. (Also, another thing that bugs me is that he doesn't speak, i know a lot of people have said it, but it just really troubles me, like in the early Archie comics, he talked. In Sonic CD, he talked. In the american cartoons, HE TALKED. Heck, in SegaSonic The Hedgehog, he also talked. I don't mind him being like Mario where he has a voice, he just doesn't speak directly. However, Classic Sonic lacks a voice whatsoever.) Ok, for real this time, these are my problems with Modern Classic Sonic.

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hahasamian wrote:

Do I have a problem for seeing the Classic fanbase as closed-minded and kind of spoiled?
I know that isn't everyone who enjoys Classic Sonic, but they just seem to like ignoring the problems with their own games so as to set them on a pedestal, while still criticizing anything that isn't either a Genesis game or Mania.
What about the Dreamcast Sonic fanbase?

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hahasamian wrote:

Do I have a problem for seeing the Classic fanbase as closed-minded and kind of spoiled?
I know that isn't everyone who enjoys Classic Sonic, but they just seem to like ignoring the problems with their own games so as to set them on a pedestal, while still criticizing anything that isn't either a Genesis game or Mania.
I get that critizing any 3D Sonic game just because it isn't Genesis is a bit harsh. But Sonic 2006, Sonic Boom; Rise of Lyric, Sonic Lost World and Sonic Forces were bad, and they were all 3D Sonic games, so anyone who liked the 2D Sonic games thought they had an edge.

It's like when Waluigi got revealed for Smash Ultimate as an assist trophy, some people posted offensive memes, and several news articles chewed them out. Nintendo fans went ahead and chewed out ANYONE who complained that their favorite character is an Assist Trophy.

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Ryrie36 wrote:

hahasamian wrote:

Do I have a problem for seeing the Classic fanbase as closed-minded and kind of spoiled?
I know that isn't everyone who enjoys Classic Sonic, but they just seem to like ignoring the problems with their own games so as to set them on a pedestal, while still criticizing anything that isn't either a Genesis game or Mania.
I get that critizing any 3D Sonic game just because it isn't Genesis is a bit harsh. But Sonic 2006, Sonic Boom; Rise of Lyric, Sonic Lost World and Sonic Forces were bad, and they were all 3D Sonic games, so anyone who liked the 2D Sonic games thought they had an edge.

It's like when Waluigi got revealed for Smash Ultimate as an assist trophy, some people posted offensive memes, and several news articles chewed them out. Nintendo fans went ahead and chewed out ANYONE who complained that their favorite character is an Assist Trophy.
Well the Classic Sonic era has Sonic Labyrinth so yeah

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hahasamian wrote:

Do I have a problem for seeing the Classic fanbase as closed-minded and kind of spoiled?
I know that isn't everyone who enjoys Classic Sonic, but they just seem to like ignoring the problems with their own games so as to set them on a pedestal, while still criticizing anything that isn't either a Genesis game or Mania.
I noticed that with the Sonic Adventure fanbase as well.

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superspongebobbros wrote:

hahasamian wrote:

Do I have a problem for seeing the Classic fanbase as closed-minded and kind of spoiled?
I know that isn't everyone who enjoys Classic Sonic, but they just seem to like ignoring the problems with their own games so as to set them on a pedestal, while still criticizing anything that isn't either a Genesis game or Mania.
I noticed that with the Sonic Adventure fanbase as well.
Well I'm not one of those people. I do prefer SA2 over the other 3D games in its style, but actually I really enjoy Boost games and… Sometimes Classic Sonic. It often feels too bland for me. But as long as it's done well, I enjoy the core gameplay.

Last edited by hahasamian (May 19, 2019 02:32:48)


In our minds, we all have a game with the power of a thousand Cave Stories.
But true power is to make just one.

-Hahasamian
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You can check some of them out here, & Knuckles.
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Spycapt54
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CatsUnited wrote:

hahasamian wrote:

Do I have a problem for seeing the Classic fanbase as closed-minded and kind of spoiled?
I know that isn't everyone who enjoys Classic Sonic, but they just seem to like ignoring the problems with their own games so as to set them on a pedestal, while still criticizing anything that isn't either a Genesis game or Mania.
What about the Dreamcast Sonic fanbase?
I think the pedestal SA2's story is put on is just as annoying as the pedestal Sonic 3 & Knuckles is put on.

Not gonna lie, I think SA2's story is a big mess and tries way too hard to be dark and edgy.
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Got these at Walmart today. Surprisingly cheap! The whole pack was only $6,



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PrincessPandaLover wrote:

Got these at Walmart today. Surprisingly cheap! The whole pack was only $6,

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PrincessPandaLover wrote:

Got these at Walmart today. Surprisingly cheap! The whole pack was only $6,

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PrincessPandaLover wrote:

Got these at Walmart today. Surprisingly cheap! The whole pack was only $6,

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CatsUnited wrote:

scratcherjack9000 wrote:

PrincessPandaLover wrote:

Got these at Walmart today. Surprisingly cheap! The whole pack was only $6,

Sock the Hedgehog
Socnic
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Metal Socnic
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CatsUnited wrote:

Ryrie36 wrote:

hahasamian wrote:

Do I have a problem for seeing the Classic fanbase as closed-minded and kind of spoiled?
I know that isn't everyone who enjoys Classic Sonic, but they just seem to like ignoring the problems with their own games so as to set them on a pedestal, while still criticizing anything that isn't either a Genesis game or Mania.
I get that critizing any 3D Sonic game just because it isn't Genesis is a bit harsh. But Sonic 2006, Sonic Boom; Rise of Lyric, Sonic Lost World and Sonic Forces were bad, and they were all 3D Sonic games, so anyone who liked the 2D Sonic games thought they had an edge.

It's like when Waluigi got revealed for Smash Ultimate as an assist trophy, some people posted offensive memes, and several news articles chewed them out. Nintendo fans went ahead and chewed out ANYONE who complained that their favorite character is an Assist Trophy.
Well the Classic Sonic era has Sonic Labyrinth so yeah
Exactly. Classic Sonic had bad games like 3D Blast and the Sonic 1 GBA port. But do they care? No.

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Ryrie36 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

Ryrie36 wrote:

hahasamian wrote:

Do I have a problem for seeing the Classic fanbase as closed-minded and kind of spoiled?
I know that isn't everyone who enjoys Classic Sonic, but they just seem to like ignoring the problems with their own games so as to set them on a pedestal, while still criticizing anything that isn't either a Genesis game or Mania.
I get that critizing any 3D Sonic game just because it isn't Genesis is a bit harsh. But Sonic 2006, Sonic Boom; Rise of Lyric, Sonic Lost World and Sonic Forces were bad, and they were all 3D Sonic games, so anyone who liked the 2D Sonic games thought they had an edge.

It's like when Waluigi got revealed for Smash Ultimate as an assist trophy, some people posted offensive memes, and several news articles chewed them out. Nintendo fans went ahead and chewed out ANYONE who complained that their favorite character is an Assist Trophy.
Well the Classic Sonic era has Sonic Labyrinth so yeah
Exactly. Classic Sonic had bad games like 3D Blast and the Sonic 1 GBA port. But do they care? No.

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