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congyingzhou
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Cancelling the 'New Scratcher' Rank

I'm suggesting this ‘cause when new Scratchers come they get overwhelmed by Scratch, and with that overwhelming the ’Scratcher's come and bully them (at some rate), and they feel neglected because:
1. You can't propose projects to be featured.
2. 120sec rule.
3. No cloud data.
4. Can't apply in most shops.
5. Bullied (maybe).

Once they feel sad emotions they will leave Scratch. And our goal is to make Scratch MORE AND MORE popular. So, is that the goal?

Thanks for support!

Happy Scratching,
congyingzhou
Botcho_Otkho
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Cancelling the 'New Scratcher' Rank

Rejected:

The rejected suggestions sticky that you should read before posting wrote:

5. Removing 60/120 second rule, New Scratcher status, etc.:
While all of these things may seem annoying, they are extremely effective shields against spam and inappropriate content.
You should look at the good sides of having a New Scratcher rank instead of just bad sides.
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Cancelling the 'New Scratcher' Rank

There is a reason the New Scratcher rank exists. The problem is that you wanna become Scratcher. If that is what it is, go here.
congyingzhou
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Cancelling the 'New Scratcher' Rank

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

Rejected:

The rejected suggestions sticky that you should read before posting wrote:

5. Removing 60/120 second rule, New Scratcher status, etc.:
While all of these things may seem annoying, they are extremely effective shields against spam and inappropriate content.
You should look at the good sides of having a New Scratcher rank instead of just bad sides.
That only applies to the 60/120 rule
Botcho_Otkho
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Cancelling the 'New Scratcher' Rank

congyingzhou wrote:

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

Rejected:

The rejected suggestions sticky that you should read before posting wrote:

5. Removing 60/120 second rule, New Scratcher status, etc.:
While all of these things may seem annoying, they are extremely effective shields against spam and inappropriate content.
You should look at the good sides of having a New Scratcher rank instead of just bad sides.
That only applies to the 60/120 rule
Nope. The New Scratcher account also exists for spam etc.
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Cancelling the 'New Scratcher' Rank

For number 4 and 5, that isn't the Scratch Team's fault.
Za-Chary
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Cancelling the 'New Scratcher' Rank

congyingzhou wrote:

the ’Scratcher's come and bully them (at some rate)
I'll be honest with you, I have never seen a Scratcher bullying a new Scratcher just because they were a new Scratcher. I typically see nice comments such as “Welcome to Scratch! I hope you have fun!”

congyingzhou wrote:

No cloud data.
I think the reasoning behind this one is that people can just make projects that eat up a lot of cloud data, which is tough on the servers. No one would want to chat and wait 2 weeks just so they can do so. Removing this is probably rejected, and falls under the “Removing 60/120 second rule, New Scratcher status, etc.” suggestion — I'd say that "removing New Scratchers and the restrictions" is pretty much rejected.

congyingzhou wrote:

our goal is to make Scratch MORE AND MORE popular
I mean…sort of? Really, the Scratch Team's goal is, and always has been, to introduce young kids to an easy-to-use programming language. You don't need to interact in the website to use Scratch. The main point of Scratch is creating projects. Everything else, including cloud variables and proposing projects to be featured, are something that you don't join Scratch just to do.

If anything, it should be motivation to keep using Scratch, so you eventually do get that sweet Scratcher status. There's a lot of cool things you can do with Scratch that even new Scratchers can do!
TheRealNetherBefore
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Cancelling the 'New Scratcher' Rank

Firstly, I have never seen anyone get bullied for being a new scratcher. The closest thing I've seen is mockery and harassment based on a user's on low quality projects, but I've never actually seen someone get mocked or harassed for the new scratcher rank itself.
Secondly, the limiting factors on the rank exist to hinder spam bots or troll/malicious accounts so that they can't do much damage before getting reported/banned, so removing those from the rank (or the rank itself) would make it easier for spam bots to post dodgy links everywhere and for malicious users to do bad things.

Last edited by TheRealNetherBefore (Sept. 29, 2018 13:48:42)

--_Nova_--
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Cancelling the 'New Scratcher' Rank

No support.

congyingzhou wrote:

{New Scratchers} can't propose projects to be featured
Usually, you would want to be on Scratch for a while to grasp an understanding of the website before suggesting a project to be featured. If they moved accounts some time would be used to prove that they were moved accounts.

congyingzhou wrote:

120sec rule
Very effective spam preventative, though.

congyingzhou wrote:

no cloud data
Anonymous new accounts could be used to spam cloud data projects to overload the servers.

congyingzhou wrote:

Can't apply in most shops
It's understandable shop owners would like employees that can prove they have experience with the website.

congyingzhou wrote:

Bullied
This hardly ever happens.

The suggestion itself is rejected:

Rejected Suggestions List wrote:

5. Removing 60/120 second rule, New Scratcher status, etc.:
While all of these things may seem annoying, they are extremely effective shields against spam and inappropriate content.

And for someone that's active, the New Scratcher rank doesn't last more than a month or two.

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