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QuillzToxic
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Websites made out of scratch? Html embeded

I was wondering if I could remove the bars from the embeded viewer??
Will the HTML editor be embeded?
Can you remove the bars from the HTML editor?

If it was availible scratch would be a really good first programming language (It allready is ) becuase alot of people dont want to make pc apps! They want to make sites!
kajiulord
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Websites made out of scratch? Html embeded

I agree
Zeusking19
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Scratch is not designed for designing websites, but I do like the idea of a block based web programming system.
I'll add that onto my list of ideas.
WASDgamer
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Zeusking19 wrote:

Scratch is not designed for designing websites, but I do like the idea of a block based web programming system.
I'll add that onto my list of ideas.
There was a mod called Web Blox, it was scratch but all normal blocks were removed and replaced with HTML blocks, the user could run the code In a browser and then export the real HTML code.


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Landrover110
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Websites made out of scratch? Html embeded

kajiulord wrote:

I agree
Same

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drmcw
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Websites made out of scratch? Html embeded

Like the other question on here asking what languages to learn don't confuse programming languages with markup language. Just because the L in HTML stands for language doesn't make it a programming language. So yes you can create a website using html but that isn't a computer language. You can run a computer language on a web server and generate html dynamically or download code and have a browser run a computer language to dynamically change the content, but you don't use a programming language to make web sites.

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scimonster
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Websites made out of scratch? Html embeded

I'm not sure that above posters understood the OP, but i'm also not sure i do either.

It sounds to me like the OP wants to remove the flag/stop sign bar from projects when embedding it in another website. I suppose it's possible to cover it up with CSS. The HTML5 player might be slightly for customizable.

Is this correct?

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bobbybee
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Websites made out of scratch? Html embeded

<sarcasm>

Well.. you could make a website out of scratch!

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/18791153/

And then, it's always possible to embed the player into a webpage.. and voila!

</sarcasm>

In all seriousness:

Scratch is designed specifically for traditional, flow-control.

Websites (the older ones anyway) are information-based, and are based on various “screens.”

So yes, you can simulate a website-like experience, and even turn it into a webpage.

But fact is, even if Scratch exported directly into HTML code, and had a “Web” section for special HTML-tag-like blocks, it's rather awkward to code with. Scratch isn't really suited towards Dreamweaver-like WYSIWYG. Blocks don't work well for markup.

It boils down to a UI issue, not a technical issue.

Last edited by bobbybee (March 5, 2014 00:23:18)


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16nfix
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Good point bobbybee.
I think all these people want is an easy introduction to html… with blocks.
I see what you are saying about it not being suited for control blocks, but if there were a block called an *html block* that you just typed html into, I am sure that would work.
It wouldn't look the best, but it would add some functionality.
nXIII
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bobbybee wrote:

Blocks don't work well for markup.
Scratch blocks don't work well for markup in general. They actually work quite well for HTML, because HTML and Scratch are both essentially just syntax trees:



You'd probably want blocks that snap onto the ends of those C blocks for attributes, but you get the idea.

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Magnie
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WASDgamer wrote:

Zeusking19 wrote:

Scratch is not designed for designing websites, but I do like the idea of a block based web programming system.
I'll add that onto my list of ideas.
There was a mod called Web Blox, it was scratch but all normal blocks were removed and replaced with HTML blocks, the user could run the code In a browser and then export the real HTML code.
http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Web_Blox_%28Scratch_Modification%29 and http://web-blox.weebly.com/

Edit: Looks like the download is gone. Anyone happen to have a copy lying around?

Last edited by Magnie (March 5, 2014 17:33:00)


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cobraguy
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Magnie wrote:

Edit: Looks like the download is gone.
nooooooooo!

I really wanted to try it out.

Last edited by cobraguy (March 5, 2014 18:58:51)

scimonster
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Magnie wrote:

WASDgamer wrote:

Zeusking19 wrote:

Scratch is not designed for designing websites, but I do like the idea of a block based web programming system.
I'll add that onto my list of ideas.
There was a mod called Web Blox, it was scratch but all normal blocks were removed and replaced with HTML blocks, the user could run the code In a browser and then export the real HTML code.
http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Web_Blox_%28Scratch_Modification%29 and http://web-blox.weebly.com/

Edit: Looks like the download is gone. Anyone happen to have a copy lying around?
Sorry, i think i deleted it from my computer.

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Magnie
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Websites made out of scratch? Html embeded

Ah, thanks to ohaiderstudios he uploaded his copy here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51363874/Web%20Blox.zip. The original creator was Daffy22.

Someone should make an update for it to use c-blocks. It'll make the “code” look cleaner.

Last edited by Magnie (March 5, 2014 20:34:51)


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nXIII wrote:

bobbybee wrote:

Blocks don't work well for markup.
Scratch blocks don't work well for markup in general. They actually work quite well for HTML, because HTML and Scratch are both essentially just syntax trees:



You'd probably want blocks that snap onto the ends of those C blocks for attributes, but you get the idea.
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PullJosh
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Hmm… Recreating Web Blox just for the heck of it? Sounds like fun!

However, I think I'll try it in js. DDDDDDD

Back to reality…

There's no way I'll ever finish this (or even know where to start), but it's a fun idea to toy around with.
DigiTechs
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Websites made out of scratch? Html embeded

nXIII wrote:

bobbybee wrote:

Blocks don't work well for markup.
Scratch blocks don't work well for markup in general. They actually work quite well for HTML, because HTML and Scratch are both essentially just syntax trees:



You'd probably want blocks that snap onto the ends of those C blocks for attributes, but you get the idea.
I could work with my friend to recode Snap! to support HTML markup as blocks, and then modify the HTTP block to return a first-class code hierarchy.

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SplashHero
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Websites made out of scratch? Html embeded

Scratch for website creation would be cool, just impractical!
blob8108
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nXIII wrote:

[image]

You'd probably want blocks that snap onto the ends of those C blocks for attributes, but you get the idea.
n, I'm offended! You could totally have used that scratchblocks feature you came up with the syntax for:
doctype [HTML5 v] :: extension hat
html :: extension cstart
head :: extension cstart
title :: extension cstart
text [A document] :: extension
end
end
body :: extension cstart
heading 1 :: extension cstart
text [Hello] :: extension
end
paragraph :: extension cstart
text [This is some text in a paragraph.] :: extension
end
end
end

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QuillzToxic
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blob8108 wrote:

nXIII wrote:

[image]

You'd probably want blocks that snap onto the ends of those C blocks for attributes, but you get the idea.
n, I'm offended! You could totally have used that scratchblocks feature you came up with the syntax for:
doctype [HTML5 v] :: extension hat
html :: extension cstart
head :: extension cstart
title :: extension cstart
text [A document] :: extension
end
end
body :: extension cstart
heading 1 :: extension cstart
text [Hello] :: extension
end
paragraph :: extension cstart
text [This is some text in a paragraph.] :: extension
end
end
end

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