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Please advise scratch version with build-in step-by-step debugger

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Vic625 wrote:
Please advise scratch version with build-in step-by-step debugger

Please can you elaborate what you mean, I don't understand.

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filmlover12 wrote:
Vic625 wrote:
Please advise scratch version with build-in step-by-step debugger
Please can you elaborate what you mean, I don't understand.

Sorry, I don’t know a Scratch “version” with a debugger. If you need help with a project, I do believe there’s a forum for that or you could search on google.

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I want to use old Scratch

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jvvg

Za-Chary wrote:
Hi! I'm following up on my recent post about the “Ban” page of the Scratch Wiki. I mentioned that there may be some incorrect information on that page, and I wanted to let you know about what would be a good idea to change. Since bans are a sensitive subject in the Scratch community, I want to ensure that this information is in apple pie order to prevent misinformation from being spread.

Everything you said makes sense to me, so I added your corrections with only a few slight modifications to wording. The one thing I didn't add was about the account creation warning - I know on Scratch 1.x there was a feature called “multiaccountwarn” that would show a warning before creating a new account if other accounts on the network were banned. I looked briefly through the source code for scratch-www and couldn't find anything similar, but I want to look more exhaustively before removing that claim from the article.

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Za-Chary

jvvg wrote:
Everything you said makes sense to me, so I added your corrections with only a few slight modifications to wording.

Thank you! I do notice there are still sentences in the “Controversy” section with “citations needed,” particularly the claims about ignoring appeals and banning on the basis of religion. Were you planning to keep those, or did you happen to just miss them? I don't think there needs to be these un-cited sentences where Scratchers read them and assume the Scratch Team is just a bunch of bad apples as a result.

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banana439monkey

Za-Chary wrote:
Personally I have never heard of the message listed in this “Account Creation Warnings” section, but that doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't exist. It's possible I have just never heard of it. It may be worth checking sources just to ensure that such a warning really does exist.

Hi Zach! I have a couple of points to raise (I'm sorry Jacob if these sound boring to you); in particular:
Referring to the message quoted above:

I wrote:
this definitely used to exist many years ago, if this is what i'm thinking about, unsure about now and am not about to risk it

Both the wiki and the revision wrote:
A user might be banned if they:

I wrote:
also i'd like to discuss, since this was neither on the wiki or zach's post, i was told that there was a rule that “3 alerts in two months -> ban”, pretty much, is this the case? should it be documented?

Thank you so much for taking the time to point this information out, and it will be taken into account when we revise the page in question.

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Za-Chary

banana439monkey wrote:
also i'd like to discuss, since this was neither on the wiki or zach's post, i was told that there was a rule that “3 alerts in two months -> ban”, pretty much, is this the case? should it be documented?

Banana

This is not true in general. It may be clear that there are cases where a user may be banned after receiving less than 3 alerts in that timeframe, but there are also cases where someone could get more than 3 alerts in that timeframe and not be banned at all. It depends on what specifically they were alerted for, what they were alerted for in the past, possibly the number of times and reasons they got banned in the past, and possibly other circumstances.

I don't think anything about this should be documented, unless you want to put in something like “The number of alerts a user receives is uncorrelated to when they will get banned.” I don't know if that's worth adding, though, since it doesn't really give any useful information.

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ametz807

At the bottom of the pick random block's page, under “workarounds”, the first example shown shows an item block with an “any” input to randomize the output, but neglects to mention an alternative, being the “random” input.

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jvvg

ametz807 wrote:
At the bottom of the pick random block's page, under “workarounds”, the first example shown shows an item block with an “any” input to randomize the output, but neglects to mention an alternative, being the “random” input.

The article says to fill the list with possible numbers, and it will choose one of those.

Za-Chary wrote:
Thank you! I do notice there are still sentences in the “Controversy” section with “citations needed,” particularly the claims about ignoring appeals and banning on the basis of religion. Were you planning to keep those, or did you happen to just miss them? I don't think there needs to be these un-cited sentences where Scratchers read them and assume the Scratch Team is just a bunch of bad apples as a result.

I just missed those. I have seen complaints on the forums of the ST ignoring/taking a very long time to respond to appeals, but I'm not sure how/if we should document that, given that the users may be lying for sympathy or may have sent disrespectful appeals. I removed it for now.

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ametz807

jvvg wrote:
ametz807 wrote:
At the bottom of the pick random block's page, under “workarounds”, the first example shown shows an item block with an “any” input to randomize the output, but neglects to mention an alternative, being the “random” input.
The article says to fill the list with possible numbers, and it will choose one of those.

I know but it doesn't say anything about inputting “random”.

jvvg

ametz807 wrote:
jvvg wrote:
ametz807 wrote:
At the bottom of the pick random block's page, under “workarounds”, the first example shown shows an item block with an “any” input to randomize the output, but neglects to mention an alternative, being the “random” input.
The article says to fill the list with possible numbers, and it will choose one of those.
I know but it doesn't say anything about inputting “random”.

The “any” part tells it to pick a random item from that list.

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ametz807

ametz807 wrote:
jvvg wrote:
ametz807 wrote:
jvvg wrote:
ametz807 wrote:
At the bottom of the pick random block's page, under “workarounds”, the first example shown shows an item block with an “any” input to randomize the output, but neglects to mention an alternative, being the “random” input.
The article says to fill the list with possible numbers, and it will choose one of those.
I know but it doesn't say anything about inputting “random”.
The “any” part tells it to pick a random item from that list.

I know, but what I'm saying is that “random” can also be put in the input, but it's not mentioned on the page and it's the far more popular option.

Last edited by ametz807 (July 11, 2022 21:45:50)

jvvg

ametz807 wrote:
I know, but what I'm saying is that “random” can also be put in the input, but it's not mentioned on the page and it's the far more popular option.

I see what you mean now. I updated it for clarity.

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You can't. You can however, make a topic by clicking the “New Topic” button in the top right of the forum you wish to post in

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jackson49 wrote:
Epenguin102 wrote:
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