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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

Hello there! Thanks for clicking on my post!
The title is of course, self-explanatory. This is a list of things that you should definitely avoid posting in the suggestions forums.. There will be examples along with each thing.
If the title is in blue, then it applies only to the suggestions forums. If the title is in green, then it applies to the whole of the discussion forums.

1. A topic that asks people to put their suggestions on.
There have been multiple topics that do this. What happens is that a user makes a new topic and titles it something along the lines of “Leave suggestions for __ here!”, and in their post they say something along the lines of “Hi guys! Put suggestions for __ here.”
These topics are usually closed by a Scratch Team member, because all the user is doing is remaking the suggestions forums.
Example:
Hi guys! This is a post where you can leave suggestions for the vector paint editor on Scratch. Here are the rules: 1. No bullying 2. Follow community guidelines 3. Your suggestion must be useful.
Usually a Scratch Team member will respond with something like this Thanks to kenny2scratch:
The Suggestions forum is for posting suggestions - not individual topics. I'm going to close this, as it is more of a “post your suggestions” topic than an actual suggestion.

2. Asking the Scratch Team to remove a project.
Don't publicly report things on a Scratch Team member's profile or on the forums. Instead, use the “report” button on the Scratch Project and state your reason why you're reporting it there. If you ask the Scratch Team on the forums to remove a project that has, say, bad language, all that'll happen is that the project will gain more views and younger kids will learn a new bad word.
Example:
OMG SCRATCH TEAM I FOUND A PROJECT THAT HAS THREE BAD WORDS GET RID OF IT NOW!!! OMG OMG OMG WHY WOULD SOMEONE DO THIS *link*

3. Spam or joke suggestions.
Don't spam or post joke suggestions. Spam makes the Scratch Website slower.
Example:
Scratch teem should mak me ceo of scratch becuz i deserve it
Of course, sometimes the Scratch Team laughs at these…but ONLY on April Fools' day. Avoid posting them any other time of the year.
Blockspam or regular spam applies to the whole of the Discussions Forums.
Example:
when green flag clicked
forever
switch costume to [ A happy person!]
say [I LOVE THIS SUGGESTION I LOVE IT SOOO MUCH I SUPPORT ITT!111]
end

4. Irrelevant topics
This forum is for suggestions for the Scratch Website only. Don't ask people to help you with projects or whatnot here. There are other topics for those very reasons. To find those forums, just go to the Discussion Forums main page here.
Example:
Guys I have a really cool project, please go check it out! *link*
If you find an irrelevant topic anywhere on the forums (not just in the Suggestions Forums), please report it to be moved.

5. A Topic that contains multiple suggestions.
Make a different topic for every suggestion, so you always have room to say why your suggestions should be added, without all of your other suggestions crowding it.
Example:
Hi guys I have three suggestions for Scratch! 1. Suggestion 1. 2. Suggestion 2. 3. Suggestion 3.

6. Asking for a friend/famous person to get unbanned.
The Scratch Team always blocks people for a good reason. Whether it's giving disrespect to a person or using bad words, The Scratch Team blocks everyone with a purpose. You should not try to help someone get unbanned. It's their job to appeal. So…just don't worry. Hopefully your friend will get unbanned.
Example:
Scratch Team, ur so mean. You banned my friend *example username here* for no reason!!!! I hate you guys!!! Unban her right now!!
And this particular topic shouldn't be “posted” anywhere. Not just on the forums, but you shouldn't post it on a Scratch Team Member's profile, in a project, or on the Wiki. Like I said before, if a friend gets banned, don't worry, they'll take care of it.

7. Usernames.
This is one of the smaller things you shouldn't post on the forums, but it is definitely big. Don't name-and-shame on the forums.
Example:
Okay my suggestion is that certain people like *example username here* shouldn't comment because they are mean. Other people like *another example username* and *this is the last example username, I promise* should not be able to comment thx for reading
A Scratch Team member will usually see posts like this and remove the usernames. The reason why they do this is so that flame wars and hate don't start.

What should you do if you find a topic on the Suggestions Forums that does any of these? Well, click on the “Report” button on the first post and in that pretty little “report” box, write that it should be closed. Or moved. Or whatever you think it should be reported for.
And what should you post on the Suggestions Forums? Well, helpful suggestions that you think would help out Scratch! But please, remember to read the stickies first. They're VERY helpful!

Thanks for reading everyone! If there's anything I should add or remove or any typos in here, please tell me and I'll fix them.

Last edited by wWSunPandaWw (Jan. 16, 2018 18:02:58)


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I-Iz-A-Litten
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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

Very useful topic.

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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

Very useful topic.
Thank you!

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duckboycool
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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

I think that this is mostly covered in Sigton's sticky topic about what to post in the suggestions forum. You should just suggest to add to that if you feel it is needed.

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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

duckboycool wrote:

I think that this is mostly covered in Sigton's sticky topic about what to post in the suggestions forum. You should just suggest to add to that if you feel it is needed.
I kind of disagree. I don't recall seeing most of the things I posted in here in Sigton's post. If I did, they were very lightly covered and not as in-depth as they were in here.
I'm not trying to make it seem like his post is totally useless, it is in fact very useful, or that my post is infinity times better than his, I'm just saying that if something in here was in his post, it was probably shorter than my explanations.

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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

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duckboycool
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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

wWSunPandaWw wrote:

duckboycool wrote:

I think that this is mostly covered in Sigton's sticky topic about what to post in the suggestions forum. You should just suggest to add to that if you feel it is needed.
I kind of disagree. I don't recall seeing most of the things I posted in here in Sigton's post. If I did, they were very lightly covered and not as in-depth as they were in here.
I'm not trying to make it seem like his post is totally useless, it is in fact very useful, or that my post is infinity times better than his, I'm just saying that if something in here was in his post, it was probably shorter than my explanations.
Well that's why I said you could suggest to add everything you don't feel is properly explained here. There's also this sticky which covers some of what you say here. Although the OP of that may not be on enough to change it very quickly. Specifically I see #6 is covered in this sticky.

And I do believe #3 should have some sort of note for April Fools since it is a pretty much accepted practice to make a jokey suggestion around April Fools Day.

I could see you trying to replace the sticky I linked to earlier. but otherwise the topics are just too similar.

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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

duckboycool wrote:

wWSunPandaWw wrote:

duckboycool wrote:

I think that this is mostly covered in Sigton's sticky topic about what to post in the suggestions forum. You should just suggest to add to that if you feel it is needed.
I kind of disagree. I don't recall seeing most of the things I posted in here in Sigton's post. If I did, they were very lightly covered and not as in-depth as they were in here.
I'm not trying to make it seem like his post is totally useless, it is in fact very useful, or that my post is infinity times better than his, I'm just saying that if something in here was in his post, it was probably shorter than my explanations.
Well that's why I said you could suggest to add everything you don't feel is properly explained here. There's also this sticky which covers some of what you say here. Although the OP of that may not be on enough to change it very quickly. Specifically I see #6 is covered in this sticky.

And I do believe #3 should have some sort of note for April Fools since it is a pretty much accepted practice to make a jokey suggestion around April Fools Day.

I could see you trying to replace the sticky I linked to earlier. but otherwise the topics are just too similar.
Would you just be happier if I closed this topic?
And saying what to post on the forums isn't really the main point of his topic. His topic is mostly about how to post constructively on the forums.

Last edited by wWSunPandaWw (Dec. 27, 2017 17:31:36)


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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

No, I'm not saying you should close the topic, but rather giving constructive criticism. I am assuming you are hoping for this to become a sticky or an ITopic, and for that we need to make sure that the information isn't already noted elsewhere, and adds to what we currently have. I just think you can edit or remove these one or two things, and leave the rest for additions. Having good topics on the suggestions forum is a very large problem, mostly just because most people don't know the rules and guidelines for making a topic. So I think it's great that you're doing this, but I just want to make sure that the topic doesn't say anything that hasn't already been said, or is remaking some current stickied topic to be better updated.

I am sorry if I came off as harsh before, but I am just trying to help you make the topic well.

EDIT: I meant to post this at first, I just forgot. If you look at many of the current stickies and ITopics, then you will see how they were given feedback to make them better. No topic is going to start off as a proper ITopic, they are going to require some changes over time. That's all I wanted to add.

Last edited by duckboycool (Dec. 27, 2017 17:55:56)


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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

duckboycool wrote:

No, I'm not saying you should close the topic, but rather giving constructive criticism. I am assuming you are hoping for this to become a sticky or an ITopic, and for that we need to make sure that the information isn't already noted elsewhere, and adds to what we currently have. I just think you can edit or remove these one or two things, and leave the rest for additions. Having good topics on the suggestions forum is a very large problem, mostly just because most people don't know the rules and guidelines for making a topic. So I think it's great that you're doing this, but I just want to make sure that the topic doesn't say anything that hasn't already been said, or is remaking some current stickied topic to be better updated.

I am sorry if I came off as harsh before, but I am just trying to help you make the topic well.

EDIT: I meant to post this at first, I just forgot. If you look at many of the current stickies and ITopics, then you will see how they were given feedback to make them better. No topic is going to start off as a proper ITopic, they are going to require some changes over time. That's all I wanted to add.
Okay, I get you better. What should I remove?

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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

I was mostly thinking the 6th one, since that is somewhat covered in current stickies, and since they are both stickies themselves, they are also pretty visible.

I also think maybe some listing something about making sure you don't have personal things in your suggestion like asking for a friend to be unbanned, naming and shaming, ect.

Also last thing for now, I think you could be less harsh with the title and opening description. Like maybe a title of “What to Avoid Posting in Suggestions” or something similar, and saying instead of never even consider putting any of this in a suggestion, just saying to try not to. I know your intent was not to come off as harsh, but these people mostly don't know the rules, and we want to help them with this.

Thank you for understanding what I am going for here, and remember that it's your topic, so don't be afraid to change it.

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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

duckboycool wrote:

I was mostly thinking the 6th one, since that is somewhat covered in current stickies, and since they are both stickies themselves, they are also pretty visible.

I also think maybe some listing something about making sure you don't have personal things in your suggestion like asking for a friend to be unbanned, naming and shaming, ect.

Also last thing for now, I think you could be less harsh with the title and opening description. Like maybe a title of “What to Avoid Posting in Suggestions” or something similar, and saying instead of never even consider putting any of this in a suggestion, just saying to try not to. I know your intent was not to come off as harsh, but these people mostly don't know the rules, and we want to help them with this.

Thank you for understanding what I am going for here, and remember that it's your topic, so don't be afraid to change it.
Ah, yes, that makes more sense. I'll remove and add those things now.

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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

LOL! I keep imagining somebody with a cheesy voice saying all those things!

wWSunPandaWw wrote:

Hello there! Thanks for clicking on my post!
The title is of course, self-explanatory. This is a list of things that you should definitely avoid posting in the suggestions forums.. There will be examples along with each thing.

1. A topic that asks people to put their suggestions on.
There have been multiple topics that do this. What happens is that a user makes a new topic and titles it something along the lines of “Leave suggestions for __ here!”, and in their post they say something along the lines of “Hi guys! Put suggestions for __ here.”
These topics are usually closed by a Scratch Team member, because all the user is doing is remaking the suggestions forums.
Example:
Hi guys! This is a post where you can leave suggestions for the vector paint editor on Scratch. Here are the rules: 1. No bullying 2. Follow community guidelines 3. Your suggestion must be useful.
Usually a Scratch Team member will respond with something like this:
I'm afraid I have to close this post since it is not a suggestion and it basically serves the purpose of the entire Suggestions Forums.

2. Asking the Scratch Team to remove a project.
Don't publicly report things on a Scratch Team member's profile or on the forums. Instead, use the “report” button on the Scratch Project and state your reason why you're reporting it there. If you ask the Scratch Team on the forums to remove a project that has, say, bad language, all that'll happen is that the project will gain more views and younger kids will learn a new bad word.
Example:
OMG SCRATCH TEAM I FOUND A PROJECT THAT HAS THREE BAD WORDS GET RID OF IT NOW!!! OMG OMG OMG WHY WOULD SOMEONE DO THIS *link*

3. Spam or joke suggestions.
Don't spam or post joke suggestions. Spam makes the Scratch Website slower.
Example:
Scratch teem should mak me ceo of scratch becuz i deserve it
Of course, sometimes the Scratch Team laughs at these…but ONLY on April Fools' day. Avoid posting them any other time of the year.

4. Irrelevant topics
This forum is for suggestions for the Scratch Website only. Don't ask people to help you with projects or whatnot here. There are other topics for those very reasons. To find those forums, just go to the Discussion Forums main page here.
Example:
Guys I have a really cool project, please go check it out! *link*
If you find an irrelevant topic anywhere on the forums (not just in the Suggestions Forums), please report it to be moved.

5. A Topic that contains multiple suggestions.
Make a different topic for every suggestion, so you always have room to say why your suggestions should be added, without all of your other suggestions crowding it.
Example:
Hi guys I have three suggestions for Scratch! 1. Suggestion 1. 2. Suggestion 2. 3. Suggestion 3.

6. Asking for a friend/famous person to get unbanned.
The Scratch Team always blocks people for a good reason. Whether it's giving disrespect to a person or using bad words, The Scratch Team blocks everyone with a purpose. You should not try to help someone get unbanned. It's their job to appeal. So…just don't worry. Hopefully your friend will get unbanned.
Example:
Scratch Team, ur so mean. You banned my friend *example username here* for no reason!!!! I hate you guys!!! Unban her right now!!
And this particular topic shouldn't be “posted” anywhere. Not just on the forums, but you shouldn't post it on a Scratch Team Member's profile, in a project, or on the Wiki. Like I said before, if a friend gets banned, don't worry, they'll take care of it.

7. Usernames.
This is one of the smaller things you shouldn't post on the forums, but it is definitely big. Don't name-and-shame on the forums.
Example:
Okay my suggestion is that certain people like *example username here* shouldn't comment because they are mean. Other people like *another example username* and *this is the last example username, I promise* should not be able to comment thx for reading
A Scratch Team member will usually see posts like this and remove the usernames. The reason why they do this is so that flame wars and hate don't start.

What should you do if you find a topic on the Suggestions Forums that does any of these? Well, click on the “Report” button on the first post and in that pretty little “report” box, write that it should be closed. Or moved. Or whatever you think it should be reported for.
And what should you post on the Suggestions Forums? Well, helpful suggestions that you think would help out Scratch! But please, remember to read the stickies first. They're VERY helpful!

Thanks for reading everyone! If there's anything I should add or remove or any typos in here, please tell me and I'll fix them.

Last edited by ZackandIvy (Dec. 28, 2017 18:15:48)


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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

ZackandIvy wrote:

LOL! I keep imagining somebody with a cheesy voice saying all those things!

wWSunPandaWw wrote:

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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

Bump.

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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

I'm going to report this to be stickied, it's very helpful(for users new to the suggestions forums).
EDIT: Done

Last edited by Bla-Games (Dec. 30, 2017 18:15:38)


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Bla-Games wrote:

I'm going to report this to be stickied, it's very helpful(for users new to the suggestions forums).
Aw, thanks!

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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

Bla-Games wrote:

I'm going to report this to be stickied, it's very helpful(for users new to the suggestions forums).
EDIT: Done
Meanwhile, the other guides I have seen include mine still have not been stickied…

Last edited by Charles12310 (Dec. 30, 2017 18:19:06)



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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

You should add Rejected Suggestions to the list.

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What you should avoid posting in the suggestions forums

Charles12310 wrote:

Bla-Games wrote:

I'm going to report this to be stickied, it's very helpful(for users new to the suggestions forums).
EDIT: Done
Meanwhile, the other guides I have seen include mine still have not been stickied…
I was going to report your guide, but I was making sure it wasn't a copy of Sigton's. Then, I accidentally closed the tab.

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