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TheAspiringHacker
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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

The Scratch Team recently featured the Create your own Google logo studio, which seems to be officially affiliated with Google and CS First. I support promoting computer science, but I don't support promoting companies, whether Apple, Microsoft, Google, Intel, or something totally different. The sole purpose of companies is to profit and all social campaigns ultimately act as advertising or PR (building a brand image). By supporting these campaigns, the Scratch Team is promoting companies to young, impressionable children, making them more susceptible to buying products by the companies.

Should this policy apply to nonprofits, such as Mozilla and the FSF, as well?

EDIT: Oh yeah, Cartoon Network would be included in this as well.

Last edited by TheAspiringHacker (Dec. 3, 2017 20:59:32)


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aking_
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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

I agree with you, but I guess the ST needs to have other ways of making profit and this is how they are doing it.

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Charles12310
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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

aking_ wrote:

I agree with you, but I guess the ST needs to have other ways of making profit and this is how they are doing it.
I agree. The Scratch Team knows what they are doing, so no need to worry.


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aking_ wrote:

I agree with you, but I guess the ST needs to have other ways of making profit and this is how they are doing it.
I agree.

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TheAspiringHacker
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aking_ wrote:

I agree with you, but I guess the ST needs to have other ways of making profit and this is how they are doing it.
I don't think that the Scratch Team is profiting from Google's CS campaign… (If Google paid the Scratch Team to showcase the studio, the Scratch Team should disclose its finances!)

Charles12310 wrote:

I agree. The Scratch Team knows what they are doing, so no need to worry.
Well, why shouldn't I worry?

“…the keynote speaker asked the audience to indicate by show of hands, one, how many people disliked C++, and two, how many people had written a C++ program. There were twice as many people in the first group than the second. Expressing dislike of something you don’t know is usually known as prejudice.” - Bjarne Stroustrup
aking_
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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

TheAspiringHacker wrote:

aking_ wrote:

I agree with you, but I guess the ST needs to have other ways of making profit and this is how they are doing it.
I don't think that the Scratch Team is profiting from Google's CS campaign… (If Google paid the Scratch Team to showcase the studio, the Scratch Team should disclose its finances!)
Hmm… maybe not, but why else would they promote Google?

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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

aking_ wrote:

I agree with you, but I guess the ST needs to have other ways of making profit and this is how they are doing it.
Yeah, that's true. The Scratch Team knows what they are doing.


chexbox
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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

It seems like the scratch team is accepting less user suggestions. Anyways, the ideal policy would be: Project/Studios should be marked NFE if they contain advertising for specific companies, and their should be NO specific company advertising on the scratch homepage.

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asivi
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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

I hope you are not having a Gmail account, or do use of Google Chrome browser, Google Maps, G Documents, etc, etc.
Fupicat
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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

They're promoting a coding activity. It has to do with Scratch. It's not like they're just slapping an advert in the website. Also, offtopic, why would google need to be advertised? It's the most accessed website in the world. They're a multibillion dollar company and would still need to be advertised?

herohamp
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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

I would like to add as I doubt you have been following the production of scratch 3.0 but GOOGLE is helping them make it
jokeaccount
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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

asivi wrote:

I hope you are not having a Gmail account, or do use of Google Chrome browser, Google Maps, G Documents, etc, etc.

that's not the point, scratch claims to be nonprofit but pastes these promotions for cartoon network and google on the front page, drilling it into impressionable kids' brains.

Charles12310 wrote:

aking_ wrote:

I agree with you, but I guess the ST needs to have other ways of making profit and this is how they are doing it.
I agree. The Scratch Team knows what they are doing, so no need to worry.

i mean, they seem pretty capable most of the time but they did just tank the forums and icon-changing servers for like a full day and put up obnoxious banners all over the front page so i'm not too sure at this point
asivi
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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

Google Doodle

Sorry for drilling those kids' brains and promote paid services from Google.inc

dude341
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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

They need to stop promoting Cartoon Network too (as in actual Cartoon Network, not the now-defunct secondary Cartoon Network channel “Cartoon Network Too” ). I thought they stopped working with Scratch. It's a great channel (the UK version, not the US version which is what is being promoted), but they just keep advertising Powerpuff Girls, a show I do not want to watch. They said they wouldn't advertise on this site, but they did. I wonder if this is why they banned advertising extensions, so no-one can make an extension that blocks the Powerpuff Girls thing (the advertisement showed up a day after the ban)

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asivi wrote:

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Sorry for drilling those kids' brains and promote paid services from Google.inc

???

asivi wrote:

I hope you are not having a Gmail account, or do use of Google Chrome browser, Google Maps, G Documents, etc, etc.
As long as someone wants to use Google, why can't they?

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TheAspiringHacker
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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

asivi wrote:

I hope you are not having a Gmail account, or do use of Google Chrome browser, Google Maps, G Documents, etc, etc.
That argument doesn't make sense. Just because Google is a monopoly, it's okay for Scratch to advertise it? If anything, that means that Scratch should *resist* it's influence. I'm very concerned about Google's growing power in particular (see it's association with the US gov on Wikileaks).

For the record, even though I still need a Gmail account for some things and use Google Search at school because DuckDuckGo is blocked, I mainly use Firefox, DuckDuckGo, and ProtonMail.

herohamp wrote:

I would like to add as I doubt you have been following the production of scratch 3.0 but GOOGLE is helping them make it
If you remember, when the Scratch Team announced the partnership, I voiced my concerns about a potentially inappropriate relationship between Scratch and Google and was belittled by the majority of the responders. Now, the Google studio merely vindicates my concerns.

“…the keynote speaker asked the audience to indicate by show of hands, one, how many people disliked C++, and two, how many people had written a C++ program. There were twice as many people in the first group than the second. Expressing dislike of something you don’t know is usually known as prejudice.” - Bjarne Stroustrup
YubNubEwok
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aking_ wrote:

TheAspiringHacker wrote:

aking_ wrote:

I agree with you, but I guess the ST needs to have other ways of making profit and this is how they are doing it.
I don't think that the Scratch Team is profiting from Google's CS campaign… (If Google paid the Scratch Team to showcase the studio, the Scratch Team should disclose its finances!)
Hmm… maybe not, but why else would they promote Google?
Um, they kind of are collaborating with Google's blocky (or whatever it is called) to make Scratch 3.0…

aking_ wrote:

I agree with you, but I guess the ST needs to have other ways of making profit and this is how they are doing it.
I agree, this could totally benefit the future of Scratch.

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dude341 wrote:

They need to stop promoting Cartoon Network too (as in actual Cartoon Network, not the now-defunct secondary Cartoon Network channel “Cartoon Network Too” :P). I thought they stopped working with Scratch. It's a great channel (the UK version, not the US version which is what is being promoted), but they just keep advertising Powerpuff Girls, a show I do not want to watch. They said they wouldn't advertise on this site, but they did. I wonder if this is why they banned advertising extensions, so no-one can make an extension that blocks the Powerpuff Girls thing (the advertisement showed up a day after the ban)
We know which “Cartoon Network” you are talking about. I don't think anybody knows about the “Cartoon Network Too”…


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The Scratch Team Should Not Promote Companies

TheAspiringHacker wrote:

asivi wrote:

Cut***
That argument doesn't make sense. Just because Google is a monopoly, it's okay for Scratch to advertise it? If anything, that means that Scratch should *resist* it's influence. I'm very concerned about Google's growing power in particular (see it's association with the US gov on Wikileaks).

For the record, even though I still need a Gmail account for some things and use Google Search at school because DuckDuckGo is blocked, I mainly use Firefox, DuckDuckGo, and ProtonMail.

herohamp wrote:

Cut***
If you remember, when the Scratch Team announced the partnership, I voiced my concerns about a potentially inappropriate relationship between Scratch and Google and was belittled by the majority of the responders. Now, the Google studio merely vindicates my concerns.
Agree. I use DuckDuckGo (at home and at school). I would use Firefox but my computer doesn't support it (I use Chromium instead). ProtonMail??? I'll have to check that out.

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dude341 wrote:

but they just keep advertising Powerpuff Girls, a show I do not want to watch.
The “make it fly” part of tips shows the Powderpuff girls, which I think that is what happened when they partnered with Cartoon Network.

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