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-stache-
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

--Waterfall-- wrote:

acduckii_rises wrote:

rip the ST never lets the community have a say on things like this
I really do think everyone should stop ranting about this. The ST has already decided, so trying to change it is futile.
What about debate though? I to engage in a debate with ceebee lol.


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aking_
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

-stache- wrote:

You can see the source if you're worried tho (and it asks for specific permissions as do all extensions).
Still got paranoia about these downloadable things tho.. if I don't really think that they are worth using than I won't take a chance on downloading them.

Throws up the deuces and walks out like a G
--Waterfall--
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

I personally agree with the ST, I know other people may not, but you guys have to accept it. The reason the ST did it was for safety reasons, so in my opinion, everyone should be fine with this. You won't be able to change this, so I suggest making a topic in the Suggestions forum trying to make a suggestion, like trying to propose a solution for this.


Dilek10
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

--Waterfall-- wrote:

I personally agree with the ST, I know other people may not, but you guys have to accept it. The reason the ST did it was for safety reasons, so in my opinion, everyone should be fine with this. You won't be able to change this, so I suggest making a topic in the Suggestions forum trying to make a suggestion, like trying to propose a solution for this.
You're right.

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AwesomeShawn
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

OrphanageVegemite wrote:

im triggred

My reaction in a nutshell lol

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-stache-
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

Why not only allow userscripts that are bound to scratch.mit.edu/* ?


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TheYellowTeam
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

ceebee wrote:

Hi everyone,

We want to announce today that we’re shifting our policy related to browser extensions, userscripts, and other similar external software. We’ve decided that, for safety reasons, we are no longer going to allow these to be advertised on Scratch.

Browser-based extensions and userscripts can be risky because they can get access to everything you do online. This means that they could potentially get information about the websites you visit, collect private information about you, and change what you see in ways you don’t expect. In the past, we have allowed these to be advertised on Scratch because they can also be fun, safe, and helpful tools – and because we’ve seen that Scratchers can learn a lot by making them. But we feel the risks and potential harm outweigh these benefits.

Because of this, we will now be removing comments, projects, forum posts, user profile information, or other content that reference any browser extension or userscript. In general, we encourage you to use these tools only if they were created by people or organizations you trust.

Thanks,
Scratch Team

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Frequently Asked Questions:

When does this go into effect?
Right away.

Will I get in trouble for things I’ve already shared about a browser extension/userscript?
No. We will begin the process of removing content that has already been shared on Scratch. This will not count against you, so no need to worry about that Going forward, we ask that you do not share or advertise browser extensions/userscripts as it could lead to moderations actions against your account.

What if I’ve already downloaded a browser extension?
You should look through your browser extensions and delete any that weren’t created by people or organizations you trust. You might even want to reread their privacy policies to make sure you’re okay with everything the extensions are doing.

Does this mean I have to delete browser extensions I am already using?
No. It is your choice what extensions you want to install and use. The new policy is that you can no longer advertise extensions on Scratch.

Can I still use Scratch-related browser extensions and userscripts?
Yes, you can use those tools for your own use - but do not advertise them on Scratch.

Should I report content referencing a browser extension/userscript?
Yes.

What about Scratch extensions?
Those are a different thing! It’s totally cool to share Scratch extensions, like the ones found in the Scratch editor or on scratchx.org. We’re only talking about browser extensions (like Firefox and Chrome extensions).

i guess… THATS A LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
-stache-
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

nvm

Last edited by -stache- (Dec. 2, 2017 00:35:48)



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-stache-
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

--Waterfall-- wrote:

_EIektron_ wrote:

I understand that the Scratch Team wants extensions not being used for safety reasons. However, what if they were open source? You could see their code, if you don't like what they are doing it is all up to you to decide if you want to have the extension or not. I simply believe extensions make a website better.
Yes, I agree
Um isonline is already open source: https://github.com/WorldLanguages/isOnlinev2


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herohamp
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

Well, there goes rewriting the isOnline backend to make it more efficient due to our expected growth… erhgpwergpiwebigwr[


SIDENOTE:
Can we in advanced topics no longer share userscript!?!?!? @thisandagain pls explain if so then WOW, thats bad

Last edited by herohamp (Dec. 2, 2017 00:50:15)

Dilek10
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100+ posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

TheYellowTeam wrote:

ceebee wrote:

Hi everyone,

We want to announce today that we’re shifting our policy related to browser extensions, userscripts, and other similar external software. We’ve decided that, for safety reasons, we are no longer going to allow these to be advertised on Scratch.

Browser-based extensions and userscripts can be risky because they can get access to everything you do online. This means that they could potentially get information about the websites you visit, collect private information about you, and change what you see in ways you don’t expect. In the past, we have allowed these to be advertised on Scratch because they can also be fun, safe, and helpful tools – and because we’ve seen that Scratchers can learn a lot by making them. But we feel the risks and potential harm outweigh these benefits.

Because of this, we will now be removing comments, projects, forum posts, user profile information, or other content that reference any browser extension or userscript. In general, we encourage you to use these tools only if they were created by people or organizations you trust.

Thanks,
Scratch Team

- - - - - - -

Frequently Asked Questions:

When does this go into effect?
Right away.

Will I get in trouble for things I’ve already shared about a browser extension/userscript?
No. We will begin the process of removing content that has already been shared on Scratch. This will not count against you, so no need to worry about that Going forward, we ask that you do not share or advertise browser extensions/userscripts as it could lead to moderations actions against your account.

What if I’ve already downloaded a browser extension?
You should look through your browser extensions and delete any that weren’t created by people or organizations you trust. You might even want to reread their privacy policies to make sure you’re okay with everything the extensions are doing.

Does this mean I have to delete browser extensions I am already using?
No. It is your choice what extensions you want to install and use. The new policy is that you can no longer advertise extensions on Scratch.

Can I still use Scratch-related browser extensions and userscripts?
Yes, you can use those tools for your own use - but do not advertise them on Scratch.

Should I report content referencing a browser extension/userscript?
Yes.

What about Scratch extensions?
Those are a different thing! It’s totally cool to share Scratch extensions, like the ones found in the Scratch editor or on scratchx.org. We’re only talking about browser extensions (like Firefox and Chrome extensions).

i guess… THATS A LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
No, it's not a lie. IT'S TRUE!!!!!!!!!

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PackersRuleGoPack
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

--Waterfall-- wrote:

_EIektron_ wrote:

I understand that the Scratch Team wants extensions not being used for safety reasons. However, what if they were open source? You could see their code, if you don't like what they are doing it is all up to you to decide if you want to have the extension or not. I simply believe extensions make a website better.
Yes, I agree
All of the majorly used scratch extensions (other than griffpatchs i think) are open source on github



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J33van_123
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

Whats Chooper100 and the rest of the devs meant to do now?

I can mak kewl stuuf
--Waterfall--
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

PackersRuleGoPack wrote:

--Waterfall-- wrote:

_EIektron_ wrote:

I understand that the Scratch Team wants extensions not being used for safety reasons. However, what if they were open source? You could see their code, if you don't like what they are doing it is all up to you to decide if you want to have the extension or not. I simply believe extensions make a website better.
Yes, I agree
All of the majorly used scratch extensions (other than griffpatchs i think) are open source on github
I thought Griffpatch's extension was open source…


MasterOfTheTiger
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

Is it possible for you (the Scratch Team) to allow a verification for Scratch browser extensions? Similarly to the thing with posting links to our own websites, how we need to post the link and let it be verified. Then when it gets reviewed and (if) it gets accepted we can promote our extension? Is that reasonable? I just don't really see how fair it is to people who have spent a LOT of work on extensions, like isOnline. With this system, you could allow the great abilities that these extensions offer, without all of the bad ones.

If that does not work, you could have a more official way of allowing them. isOnline has a very good reputation on Scratch. I thought you did not have a problem with it. Their code and everything else is visible for anyone to see on GitHub. You could simply allow some of the “big” extensions to still be promoted.

Also, in personal websites (ones which links' are allowed to be posted), are we allowed to mention, list, and endorse Scratch browser extensions. If the main purpose of the site is not to promote the extension (unlike ison.ga and isonline.tk), are we allowed to at least provide a link to get them (like scratchuserstats.tk)?

Please state your response to my points.


P.S. I see you also have removed the ability to add the Discuss button back, since you banned or deleted @DiscussButton with the rest of the isOnline accounts. isOnline must have to find another way to enable it, maybe adding a switch in the footer.


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--Waterfall--
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

MasterOfTheTiger wrote:

Is it possible for you (the Scratch Team) to allow a verification for Scratch browser extensions? Similarly to the thing with posting links to our own websites, how we need to post the link and let it be verified. Then when it gets reviewed and (if) it gets accepted we can promote our extension? Is that reasonable? I just don't really see how fair it is to people who have spent a LOT of work on extensions, like isOnline. With this system, you could allow the great abilities that these extensions offer, without all of the bad ones.

If that does not work, you could have a more official way of allowing them. isOnline has a very good reputation on Scratch. I thought you did not have a problem with it. Their code and everything else is visible for anyone to see on GitHub. You could simply allow some of the “big” extensions to still be promoted.

Also, in personal websites (ones which links' are allowed to be posted), are we allowed to mention, list, and endorse Scratch browser extensions. If the main purpose of the site is not to promote the extension (unlike ison.ga and isonline.tk), are we allowed to at least provide a link to get them (like scratchuserstats.tk)?

Please state your response to my points.


P.S. I see you also have removed the ability to add the Discuss button back, since you banned or deleted @DiscussButton with the rest of the isOnline accounts. isOnline must have to find another way to enable it, maybe adding a switch in the footer.
Yeah, I agree for the thing with the Discuss button. I still have it, but other people don't, so a switch would be good.


CD20Superness
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72 posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

#Stop_The_War

#NoMasBringItBack

#StopTheDramas

Isonline got shut downed. The end.
GKRises
Scratcher
14 posts

Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

How did the isOnline Crown got took of me by the Scratch Team? #ThisEndsNow
JGames101
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

This is… Sad. I completely understand the change, I just wish there was a way to make it so that users who understand browser extensions, and know the risks, would be able to still use them. It's sad to see them go, with all the great tools people have made (I made one in the past, and was working on another, but I'll stop that now)… Maybe we need an unofficial directory like savaka2 and the scratch extensions one?
D_i_a_v_l_o
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Browser Extension/Userscript Policy

Oh jeez, that was unexpected.

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