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- walkcycle
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
a C block that makes regular Scratch blocks case sensitive
not sure of the category
case sensitive {
if <[cat] = [CAT]> then
false :: grey
else
does this because cat and CAT are not the same in the case sensitive C block:: grey
} :: control // control
not sure of the category
case sensing {
} :: sensing // sensing
letter case aware {
} :: operators // operators
Last edited by walkcycle (Aug. 29, 2017 19:48:25)
- FancyFoxy
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
I'd love this, actually! Maybe a little different wording:
with case sensitive {} :: sensing
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- WolfCat67
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
I'd love this! Would really make it a lot easier for people to make case-sensitive code. After all, the fact that it's not case-sensitive as it is is kind of a let-down in some ways (some ways), so it would really help out with this block.
- walkcycle
- Scratcher
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
I'd love this, actually! Maybe a little different wording:with case sensitive {} :: sensing
yeah, not sure of the wording, either
'with' is an improvement
more trying
sense case {
} :: sensing // sensing
turn overlook capital letters off {
} turn overlook captal letters back on:: operators // operators
turn on case sensitive {
} turn off :: control // control
I'd love this! Would really make it a lot easier for people to make case-sensitive code. After all, the fact that it's not case-sensitive as it is is kind of a let-down in some ways (some ways), so it would really help out with this block.
I agree.
Last edited by walkcycle (Aug. 31, 2017 18:30:04)
- yzyzyz
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
I support! this would solve a lot of problems.
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- -ShadowOfTheFuture-
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
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- smartzx
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
Duplicate. Seriously, I find 2 pairs of duplicates in the first 10 non-stickied posts I see?
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- FancyFoxy
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
Duplicate. Seriously, I find 2 pairs of duplicates in the first 10 non-stickied posts I see?There's a difference between
<case sensitive [] = [] :: operators>and
case sensitive {} :: sensing
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- TheAspiringHacker
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
Why can't we just have two separate functions? Having a C-shaped block would make the comparison functions impure and the reporter blocks are better designed if they did not depend on external state. Also, how would the block work if it called a custom block that used the comparison functions? Would the custom block be case-sensitive or not? I can see beginners getting confused by the vagueness.
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- walkcycle
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500+ posts
case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
Why can't we just have two separate functions?
Scratch has more blocks where case (in)sensitivity comes into play.
For instance,
<[list v] contains [item] ?>
And in Scratch 3.0 (maybe)
<[string] contains [string] ? ::operators >
Also,
<key [ v] pressed?>
could have its list of keys include caps
a
A
b
B
inside the context of the C block.
It would make them case sensitive. But yeah, it is not a perfect solution. Having a C-shaped block would make the comparison functions impure and the reporter blocks are better designed if they did not depend on external state.
Also, how would the block work if it called a custom block that used the comparison functions? Would the custom block be case-sensitive or not? I can see beginners getting confused by the vagueness.
I don't think it would extend to change the behavior inside custom blocks used in its context. But it would have consistent, dependable behavior, whatever choice is made.
- Charles12310
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1000+ posts
case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
*ahem*Why can't we just have two separate functions?
Scratch has more blocks where case (in)sensitivity comes into play.
For instance,<[list v] contains [item] ?>
And in Scratch 3.0 (maybe)<[string] contains [string] ? ::operators >
Also,<key [ v] pressed?>
could have its list of keys include caps
a
A
b
B
inside the context of the C block.It would make them case sensitive. But yeah, it is not a perfect solution. Having a C-shaped block would make the comparison functions impure and the reporter blocks are better designed if they did not depend on external state.Also, how would the block work if it called a custom block that used the comparison functions? Would the custom block be case-sensitive or not? I can see beginners getting confused by the vagueness.
I don't think it would extend to change the behavior inside custom blocks used in its context. But it would have consistent, dependable behavior, whatever choice is made.
<key [shift v] pressed? :: sensing >
We need this instead.
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- walkcycle
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
Then you would have to detect two key presses (instead of one). And Caps Lock is not the same as Shift lock on US keyboards.<key [shift v] pressed? :: sensing >
We need this instead.
- TheAspiringHacker
- Scratcher
100+ posts
case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
I think that a more elegant solution is if Scratch had lambdas so we can write custom equality functions; the default compare function if none is given would be the case-insensitive equals block.
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- walkcycle
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
Scratch 3.0 may have custom reporters, but we would still need a dependable way to get at letter case.
Last edited by walkcycle (Sept. 25, 2017 20:26:44)
- TheAspiringHacker
- Scratcher
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
custom reporters, but we would still needs a dependable way to get at letter case.No, I said lambdas, AKA functions as values. They can be taken as arguments by other functions. Scratch 3.0 may have
If you want to know what I'm talking about, C++'s hash map can take a equality function that is set to std::equal_to<T> by default. http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/unordered_map/unordered_map/
EDIT: We should have a case-sensitive equality block and a case-sensitive less than block that we can use to define other case-sensitive functions.
Last edited by TheAspiringHacker (Sept. 25, 2017 20:29:57)
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- walkcycle
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
I am afraid custom reporters is the best you can hope for in the next Scratch. It would be an improvement. But Scratch still needs a dependable way to get at letter case.
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- walkcycle
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
More than one equality block is going to be confusing. EDIT: We should have a case-sensitive equality block and a case-sensitive less than block that we can use to define other case-sensitive functions.
For a case-aware less than (or greater than) block, what should it do with letters?
E.g., is A > a because of size. Or is a > A because of unicode numerical ordering?
How about strings of characters or mixed case?
- TheAspiringHacker
- Scratcher
100+ posts
case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
The case-aware less than block should use the ASCII numbers. The string comparison version should use lexicographical ordering. The less-than block can already compare characters and strings.More than one equality block is going to be confusing. EDIT: We should have a case-sensitive equality block and a case-sensitive less than block that we can use to define other case-sensitive functions.
For a case-aware less than (or greater than) block, what should it do with letters?
E.g., is A > a because of size. Or is a > A because of unicode numerical ordering?
How about strings of characters or mixed case?
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- Charles12310
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
Then you would have to detect two key presses (instead of one). And Caps Lock is not the same as Shift lock on US keyboards.<key [shift v] pressed? :: sensing >
We need this instead.
<caps lock on? :: sensing >
Besides, it will decrease the need to keep scrolling down until you reach the capital letters.
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- ugli_est
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case sensitive C block (for uppercase, lowercase aware blocks in Scratch)
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