Restoring deleted projects

DAVGMAKER

Where is the restore button?

DAVGMAKER

for restoring projects emptied from trash

fdreerf

DAVGMAKER wrote:
Where is the restore button?

Hyped for MS-DOS 11.0

DAVGMAKER

No, for the emptied trash that you cannot find.

mlcreater

DAVGMAKER wrote:
Where is the restore button?

DAVGMAKER wrote:
for restoring projects emptied from trash

There is none, which is why I think this suggestion is a great idea.

There should always be a time period to restore when you delete things.

There is a time period to log back into your account after it is scheduled to be deleted.

There is a time period (until you delete another) to restore a deleted sprite.

There is ctrl+z if you accidentally press “Delete 1089 Blocks” when you meant to “Add Comment”.

There should be a time period to reverse emptying trash.

These arguments:

Why would you put a project you wanted to keep in the Trash in the first place? To be honest, you'd probably only put it there if you didn't like it, so deleting it wouldn't really be much of a hassle… I would've thought that the original “putting in the trash” could be considered the first deletion, and “put back” could be restoring it. “Empty Trash” would be the permanent deletion. No?

Well, if it's in your trash folder, you can recover it. If you empty your trash, that means you want to permanently delete all of the projects in the trash folder. You can already restore projects from the trash, and emptying your trash permanently deletes everything in the trash, so no support.

are flawed because if someone hacks or guesses their way into your account and deletes and empties your projects, you did not get warned and you did not mean to empty the trash and you did want to keep the trashed projects.

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NanoPIex

No support. You have to enter your password to empty the trash. That`s like Heads up! You`re about to delete everything in here!

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mlcreater

NanoPIex wrote:
No support. You have to enter your password to empty the trash. That`s like Heads up! You`re about to delete everything in here!

If a hacker somehow finds out your password then they could delete and empty all your projects and they wouldn't care.

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Futurebot5

mlcreater wrote:
DAVGMAKER wrote:
Where is the restore button?
DAVGMAKER wrote:
for restoring projects emptied from trash
There is none, which is why I think this suggestion is a great idea.

There should always be a time period to restore when you delete things.

There is a time period to log back into your account after it is scheduled to be deleted.

There is a time period (until you delete another) to restore a deleted sprite.

There is ctrl+z if you accidentally press “Delete 1089 Blocks” when you meant to “Add Comment”.

There should be a time period to reverse emptying trash.

These arguments:
Why would you put a project you wanted to keep in the Trash in the first place? To be honest, you'd probably only put it there if you didn't like it, so deleting it wouldn't really be much of a hassle… I would've thought that the original “putting in the trash” could be considered the first deletion, and “put back” could be restoring it. “Empty Trash” would be the permanent deletion. No?
Well, if it's in your trash folder, you can recover it. If you empty your trash, that means you want to permanently delete all of the projects in the trash folder. You can already restore projects from the trash, and emptying your trash permanently deletes everything in the trash, so no support.
are flawed because if someone hacks or guesses their way into your account and deletes and empties your projects, you did not get warned and you did not mean to empty the trash and you did want to keep the trashed projects.

If you were hacked, this was implemented, and he wanted to delete your projects, he could just delete all the code inside them. Also, the trash itself acts as that time period.

So…hello, ou bonjour, o hola, o ciao, oder hallo.

NanoPIex

Futurebot5 wrote:
mlcreater wrote:
DAVGMAKER wrote:
Where is the restore button?
DAVGMAKER wrote:
for restoring projects emptied from trash
There is none, which is why I think this suggestion is a great idea.

There should always be a time period to restore when you delete things.

There is a time period to log back into your account after it is scheduled to be deleted.

There is a time period (until you delete another) to restore a deleted sprite.

There is ctrl+z if you accidentally press “Delete 1089 Blocks” when you meant to “Add Comment”.

There should be a time period to reverse emptying trash.

These arguments:
Why would you put a project you wanted to keep in the Trash in the first place? To be honest, you'd probably only put it there if you didn't like it, so deleting it wouldn't really be much of a hassle… I would've thought that the original “putting in the trash” could be considered the first deletion, and “put back” could be restoring it. “Empty Trash” would be the permanent deletion. No?
Well, if it's in your trash folder, you can recover it. If you empty your trash, that means you want to permanently delete all of the projects in the trash folder. You can already restore projects from the trash, and emptying your trash permanently deletes everything in the trash, so no support.
are flawed because if someone hacks or guesses their way into your account and deletes and empties your projects, you did not get warned and you did not mean to empty the trash and you did want to keep the trashed projects.
If you were hacked, this was implemented, and he wanted to delete your projects, he could just delete all the code inside them. Also, the trash itself acts as that time period.

Now, hacking, that would be super rare. Like 1-5% of Scratchers have been hacked.

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Futurebot5

NanoPIex wrote:
Futurebot5 wrote:
mlcreater wrote:
DAVGMAKER wrote:
Where is the restore button?
DAVGMAKER wrote:
for restoring projects emptied from trash
There is none, which is why I think this suggestion is a great idea.

There should always be a time period to restore when you delete things.

There is a time period to log back into your account after it is scheduled to be deleted.

There is a time period (until you delete another) to restore a deleted sprite.

There is ctrl+z if you accidentally press “Delete 1089 Blocks” when you meant to “Add Comment”.

There should be a time period to reverse emptying trash.

These arguments:
Why would you put a project you wanted to keep in the Trash in the first place? To be honest, you'd probably only put it there if you didn't like it, so deleting it wouldn't really be much of a hassle… I would've thought that the original “putting in the trash” could be considered the first deletion, and “put back” could be restoring it. “Empty Trash” would be the permanent deletion. No?
Well, if it's in your trash folder, you can recover it. If you empty your trash, that means you want to permanently delete all of the projects in the trash folder. You can already restore projects from the trash, and emptying your trash permanently deletes everything in the trash, so no support.
are flawed because if someone hacks or guesses their way into your account and deletes and empties your projects, you did not get warned and you did not mean to empty the trash and you did want to keep the trashed projects.
If you were hacked, this was implemented, and he wanted to delete your projects, he could just delete all the code inside them. Also, the trash itself acts as that time period.
Now, hacking, that would be super rare. Like 1-5% of Scratchers have been hacked.

Exactly!

So…hello, ou bonjour, o hola, o ciao, oder hallo.

TheAdriCoolManDude

No Support, isn't the trash already a thing. If you wanna delete something from your trash, then you should be sure you want to delete it forever.

NanoPIex

Futurebot5 wrote:
NanoPIex wrote:
Futurebot5 wrote:
mlcreater wrote:
DAVGMAKER wrote:
Where is the restore button?
DAVGMAKER wrote:
for restoring projects emptied from trash
There is none, which is why I think this suggestion is a great idea.

There should always be a time period to restore when you delete things.

There is a time period to log back into your account after it is scheduled to be deleted.

There is a time period (until you delete another) to restore a deleted sprite.

There is ctrl+z if you accidentally press “Delete 1089 Blocks” when you meant to “Add Comment”.

There should be a time period to reverse emptying trash.

These arguments:
Why would you put a project you wanted to keep in the Trash in the first place? To be honest, you'd probably only put it there if you didn't like it, so deleting it wouldn't really be much of a hassle… I would've thought that the original “putting in the trash” could be considered the first deletion, and “put back” could be restoring it. “Empty Trash” would be the permanent deletion. No?
Well, if it's in your trash folder, you can recover it. If you empty your trash, that means you want to permanently delete all of the projects in the trash folder. You can already restore projects from the trash, and emptying your trash permanently deletes everything in the trash, so no support.
are flawed because if someone hacks or guesses their way into your account and deletes and empties your projects, you did not get warned and you did not mean to empty the trash and you did want to keep the trashed projects.
If you were hacked, this was implemented, and he wanted to delete your projects, he could just delete all the code inside them. Also, the trash itself acts as that time period.
Now, hacking, that would be super rare. Like 1-5% of Scratchers have been hacked.
Exactly!

Because the user did something like give away some kind of info SO the hacker could hack.

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NanoPIex

mlcreater wrote:
NanoPIex wrote:
No support. You have to enter your password to empty the trash. That`s like Heads up! You`re about to delete everything in here!
If a hacker somehow finds out your password then they could delete and empty all your projects and they wouldn't care.

Oh true. But that`s on the user to make such an easy password………………………

Last edited by NanoPIex (Nov. 25, 2020 22:51:39)

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PkmnQ

When you empty the recycle bin on your computer, it doesn't have a restore option. And someone can hack into your computer at any time. No support.

wowee

gosoccerboy5

Semi-support. I don't see many costs to this but I don't see many benefits.

There's a warning before you empty the trash, requiring you to enter your password.
Not many people get hacked, and besides hackers could do more than just empty your trash.

I just don't see why the Scratch Team should put effort into something that wouldn't do much imo.

mlcreater

NanoPIex wrote:
~giant snip~
Now, hacking, that would be super rare. Like 1-5% of Scratchers have been hacked.

That's a lot; 600 000 to 3 000 000 people!

NanoPIex wrote:
mlcreater wrote:
NanoPIex wrote:
No support. You have to enter your password to empty the trash. That`s like Heads up! You`re about to delete everything in here!
If a hacker somehow finds out your password then they could delete and empty all your projects and they wouldn't care.
Oh true. But that`s on the user to make such an easy password………………………

Scratch has to protect all its users, even those who might not know what they are doing.

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JPOWERPUFFGIRLS

mlcreater wrote:
NanoPIex wrote:
~giant snip~
Now, hacking, that would be super rare. Like 1-5% of Scratchers have been hacked.
That's a lot; 600 000 to 3 000 000 people!

I'm pretty sure that percentage is wayyyy off though

Also, where would these projects be stored for you to restore them

Last edited by JPOWERPUFFGIRLS (Nov. 26, 2020 02:31:46)

mlcreater

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:
mlcreater wrote:
NanoPIex wrote:
~giant snip~
Now, hacking, that would be super rare. Like 1-5% of Scratchers have been hacked.
That's a lot; 600 000 to 3 000 000 people!
I'm pretty sure that percentage is wayyyy off though

Also, where would these projects be stored for you to restore them

The same place projects normally go when you delete them.

Scratch doesn't forget deleted projects.

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JPOWERPUFFGIRLS

mlcreater wrote:
JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:
mlcreater wrote:
NanoPIex wrote:
~giant snip~
Now, hacking, that would be super rare. Like 1-5% of Scratchers have been hacked.
That's a lot; 600 000 to 3 000 000 people!
I'm pretty sure that percentage is wayyyy off though

Also, where would these projects be stored for you to restore them
The same place projects normally go when you delete them.

What's the difference then

mlcreater

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:
mlcreater wrote:
JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:
Also, where would these projects be stored for you to restore them
The same place projects normally go when you delete them.
What's the difference then

If you are able to restore deleted projects for a window of a few days, you have a chance to get back all the projects you emptied, not just the first 5.

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